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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/13/2017 8:54:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		While involved with politics, it's worth to know the game behind UN vote, especially the military conflict.

Today, Trump declared the diplomatic victory against China which abstained the vote, even it's vetoed by Russia in the end. The result is to prove the US-China leadership affair is just as effective as Trump hoped. However, in previous UN resolutions against Syria, China did reject once while Russia abstrained since 2013. The ultimate goal for both China and Russia is just vetoing all the resolutions as long as there is one rejection vote.

Yet, in many Chinese forums and news sites, the decision China made gone viral to netizens, and criticize how 'Spineless' the Chinese government is. And also Trump does indeed 'win' the resolution by creating doubts between China and Russia in UN.

It's quite certain the China-Russia military cooperations is really far from mere possibility, given by the complicated political environment.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328573-trump-praises-china-for-abstaining-from-un-vote#

http://3g.china.com/act/military/11132797/20170413/30416507.html (Simplified Chinese)

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/13/2017 10:02:23 PM   
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/13/us-drops-largest-non-nuclear-bomb-in-afghanistan-after-green-beret-killed.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/14/2017 1:04:57 AM   
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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/14/2017 3:12:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The sheer amount of force of non-nuclear explosion could also tell North Korea, they got something better without radiating East Asia, if needed.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/14/2017 10:43:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dysta, that's a massive understatement of the power of nuclear weapons. Pyongyang's first nuclear test (which everyone assesses fizzled) had a yield of 0.48 Kilotons. The GBU-43/B has a yield of about 10 tons, about 50 times smaller. The only nuclear warheads that are on the same level of magnitude as a GBU-43/B were the Mk-54 "Davy Crockett" warheads.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/15/2017 1:19:57 AM   
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Dysta, that's a massive understatement of the power of nuclear weapons. Pyongyang's first nuclear test (which everyone assesses fizzled) had a yield of 0.48 Kilotons. The GBU-43/B has a yield of about 10 tons, about 50 times smaller. The only nuclear warheads that are on the same level of magnitude as a GBU-43/B were the Mk-54 "Davy Crockett" warheads.


Of course it's like comparing steam turbine engine to nuclear reactor, what I was mentioned is "radiating". By far no conventional ordinance to be comparable at the same weight, but still impressive enough to see mushroom cloud over 30km distance from GZ, given by only 10 tons.

Sure, nuke could be even more impressive, but radiating a portion of Korea Peninsula is the last thing to consider as an option.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/15/2017 10:55:55 AM   
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http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4185331 in russian

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/15/2017 1:39:08 PM   
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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/16/2017 12:16:00 AM   
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May mercy be given to the project leader ...

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/16/2017 7:21:21 PM   
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Notice the bort number 801. Previously we could spotted a MIG-29M2 with a full egyptian cammo with the bort 811.


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/17/2017 2:45:24 AM   
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Not surprising I guess.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/17/2017 5:18:52 AM   
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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/18/2017 7:20:58 AM   
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http://www.sltrib.com/home/5183435-155/china-russia-send-ships-after-us

Not surprising I guess.


Carl Vinsion is actually still en route from Singapore, unlike what media said already (14 April) around before NK's parade.

http://www.china.com/act/military/11132797/20170418/30432975.html (Simplified Chinese)

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/18/2017 1:14:44 PM   
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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/18/2017 3:38:17 PM   
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Interesting summary:

many of the previously revealed design flaws remain. These include too small and poorly positioned air inlets that would likely cut air flow to the engines at even the slightest angle-of-attack; a wing-chord that is too thick for high speed performance; a retractable sensor turret that would limit the aircraft's speed when deployed; engines that appear to have no exhaust nozzles; and an overall design configuration that looks far from stealthy in just about every aspect. Aside from the apparent design flaws, a feature of the footage that casts doubt over the veracity of the aircraft is that the rudders do not seem to move in sync with the nosewheel, as should normally be the case.




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/18/2017 3:49:33 PM   
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/us-deploys-two-more-aircraft-carriers-toward-korean-peninsula-yonhap


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/18/2017 4:08:26 PM   
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The Nimitz is off of Southern California coming off of a 3 week exercise - a long way: but possible.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 2:33:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		If my memory serves right, 3 US carriers to Far-East is an "Imminent War" message since the first nuclear test.

If Bush also join the fight, that will be 4 in total before the end of April (Nimitz, Reagan, Carl Vinson, George HWB). Should it means the "imminently imminent war"?

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It should be Navyreco's show, but I decided to post it first:

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/april-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5113-russia-continues-tests-of-3m22-zircon-hypersonic-missile-reached-mach-8-speed.html



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 10:36:32 AM   
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During the Navy League's Sea-Air-Space 2017 exposition held recently near Washington D.C., Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII) was showcasing its "Future Surface Combatant" based on a LPD-17 / San Antonio-class hull form.
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While the LPD 17 hull form is slower than the current CG class, the potential of a surface vessel fitted with the maximum size variant of the AN/SPY-6 AMDR radar and a 70+ day mission endurance (without resupply) sounds like a major capability step forward. Add to the mix a likely affordable design (because of the reduced crew and the hot production line) plus the ability to accomodate large, long endurance helicopters (an AEW variant of the V-22 or CH-53 would be ideal) to act as remote sensors, and you have what looks like a very promising CG replacement solution.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/2017/sea-air-space-2017-show-daily-news/5114-hii-s-lpd-based-future-surface-combatant-concept-could-replace-ticonderoga-class-cruisers.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 12:37:26 PM   
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During the Navy League's Sea-Air-Space 2017 exposition held recently near Washington D.C., Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII) was showcasing its "Future Surface Combatant" based on a LPD-17 / San Antonio-class hull form.
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http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/2017/sea-air-space-2017-show-daily-news/5114-hii-s-lpd-based-future-surface-combatant-concept-could-replace-ticonderoga-class-cruisers.html


I like the concept but it seems a little slow to keep up with a warfighting CSG. Also what would it's ASW capability be beyond embarked a/c? While a CG is fully capable of spherical self defense this design seems to be an HVT requiring escorts for defense.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 12:59:30 PM   
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I like the concept but it seems a little slow to keep up with a warfighting CSG. Also what would it's ASW capability be beyond embarked a/c? While a CG is fully capable of spherical self defense this design seems to be an HVT requiring escorts for defense.



Me too, using the design of LPD hull as the next-gen missile cruiser is quite sounding.

I think the 20+ knots is aimed for Marine fleet rather than Navy's. To fully seperate their duties of two fleets, a capable missile warship without sacrificing an amphibious combat readiness is a must. Hence to trade speed with room for tilt-rotor aircrafts.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 1:14:06 PM   
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The Vice President speaking on the deck of the Reagan, nothing earth shattering but strong reassurances: https://news.usni.org/2017/04/19/video-vice-president-mike-pence-speaks-uss-ronald-reagan

Major Joint Exercise in Korea: http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pages/2017/April%202017/April%2019%202017/Max-Thunder-Kicks-Off-in-South-Korea.aspx


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 1:52:05 PM   
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The South Koreans have completed the development of their Haeseong II supersonic, ship-launched, land attack cruise missile. They will start to produce it next year.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170418000282

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/19/2017 2:35:00 PM   
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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/20/2017 1:05:41 AM   
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http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/18/congressmen-pushes-trump-to-get-mq-9-reaper-drones-to-our-anti-isis-allies-right-away/

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/20/2017 11:27:23 AM   
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“Rizzo” is the sixth unit built by Fincantieri including the combat system, the second in multipurpose configuration after the “Carlo Bergamini”, delivered to the Italian Navy in 2012. 144 meters long and with a displacement at full load of approximately 6,700 tons, the FREMM frigates represent technological excellence: designed to reach a maximum speed of 27 knots and to provide accommodation for 200 people (crew and staff), these vessels are able to always guarantee a high degree of flexibility and to operate in a wide range of scenarios and tactical situations.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/april-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5121-fincantieri-delivers-second-general-purpose-fremm-frigate-rizzo-to-the-italian-navy.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/20/2017 3:17:05 PM   
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South Korean nuclear reactors unable to withstand missile strikes

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Nuclear power plants in South Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_South_Korea


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/20/2017 3:24:18 PM   
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It is assumed that the upcoming Type 002 conventional CATOBAR carrier is being simulated by this mockup, just as past Chinese carriers.




In other news, the Type 001A in Dalian is ready to launch with the painting almost completed.


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/21/2017 10:33:14 AM   
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Three more F-35A ’Adir’ fighters are due to arrive in Israel on Sunday. Known in Israel by the Hebrew name ‘Adir’ or ‘Mighty’ they will join the two F-35A’s delivered on 13th December. Israel is expecting to receive 50 – two full squadrons – by 2022.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Three-F-35-stealth-fighter-jets-to-arrive-in-Israel-on-Sunday-488449


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 4/22/2017 5:55:42 AM   
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