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OT: He-111 as Ersatz B-29 - 5/16/2017 1:25:36 PM

Yaab

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Yesterday, I caught a glimpse of a Polish TV documentary about the Barbarossa campaign of 1941. Standard wartime footage unfolded, with a wing(?) of He-111 level bombing some target in Russia. Out of boredom I started counting bombs being dropped from the internal bay of one of the He-111s. 27 bombs! Wow, never knew it could take this many. Checked the Web and it seems the He-111 could take 32 x SC50 110lb bombs. Thirty-two bombs in the internal bay of a medium bomber. Beastly!

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RE: OT: He-111 as Ersatz B-29 - 5/16/2017 10:38:31 PM

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Well, what's what they say about german technology

Vorsprung durch Technik!

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RE: OT: He-111 as Ersatz B-29 - 5/17/2017 8:26:08 AM

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That's Audi, not Heinkel.
I assume the allied medium could take a similar amount of small bombs (or more)

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RE: OT: He-111 as Ersatz B-29 - 5/17/2017 11:08:43 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yaab

Yesterday, I caught a glimpse of a Polish TV documentary about the Barbarossa campaign of 1941. Standard wartime footage unfolded, with a wing(?) of He-111 level bombing some target in Russia. Out of boredom I started counting bombs being dropped from the internal bay of one of the He-111s. 27 bombs! Wow, never knew it could take this many. Checked the Web and it seems the He-111 could take 32 x SC50 110lb bombs. Thirty-two bombs in the internal bay of a medium bomber. Beastly!

Problem with the He-111 is that the bombs were loaded vertically, only way to load them. This limited the size of the bomb it could carry. A 110lb bomb is good for light targets or ground support, but not so much for heavier targets. It was nowhere near as effective as a B-29 and never could be.

German AF was designed from the bottom up to be ground support. That was its limitation and weakness. Could not effectively operate in a strategic role.

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RE: OT: He-111 as Ersatz B-29 - 5/17/2017 11:25:50 PM

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I keep reading that the B-17s could carry a load of up to 8,000 pounds. Extended range was 4,500 pounds.

Why is it in this game the B-17 can only carry at most 4,000 pounds? And can't it carry more in War in the West?

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RE: OT: He-111 as Ersatz B-29 - 5/20/2017 11:07:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rustysi

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ORIGINAL: Yaab

Yesterday, I caught a glimpse of a Polish TV documentary about the Barbarossa campaign of 1941. Standard wartime footage unfolded, with a wing(?) of He-111 level bombing some target in Russia. Out of boredom I started counting bombs being dropped from the internal bay of one of the He-111s. 27 bombs! Wow, never knew it could take this many. Checked the Web and it seems the He-111 could take 32 x SC50 110lb bombs. Thirty-two bombs in the internal bay of a medium bomber. Beastly!

Problem with the He-111 is that the bombs were loaded vertically, only way to load them. This limited the size of the bomb it could carry. A 110lb bomb is good for light targets or ground support, but not so much for heavier targets. It was nowhere near as effective as a B-29 and never could be.

German AF was designed from the bottom up to be ground support. That was its limitation and weakness. Could not effectively operate in a strategic role.

Thanks! Now it all makes sense. Almost all He-111 footage I have memorized from my early childhood involves bombs tumbling funnily when being dropped. You dont see that in horizontally-loaded bombers.