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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/15/2017 1:26:10 AM   
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Sometimes, even the most powerful leader in the world couldn't grasp the idea how advanced the US military has becomes:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/apos-digital-apos-digital-apos-230736810.html

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“It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out,” Mr Trump said.

“And I said - and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers ... I said what system are you going to be - ‘Sir, we’re staying with digital.’

"I said, ‘No you’re not. [You’re] going to goddamned steam,’ the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good."


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Remember my dubious talk about railgun before? Not anymore, this news can be a wet dream for railgunenrs today:

http://newatlas.com/general-atomics-hypersonic-railgun-projectiles/49514/

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One example of such hypersonic weapon is General Atomics' Blitzer electric railgun system, which uses electromagnets to accelerate a projectile clad in a sabot at up to 60,000 Gs until it can not only reach hypersonic velocity, but carry enough energy to travel four mi (6.4 km) after penetrating a 3.2 mm steel plate. The Blitzer is made of a launcher, a high density pulsed power unit, and a weapon fire control system.

In addition to the improved electronics package, the projectile also tested a new continuous two-way data link between the in-flight projectiles and a ground station, a new lightweight composite sabot, and the ability to maintain bore structural integrity at high acceleration.

The company is currently working on a new High Energy Pulsed Power Container (HEPPC) to supply the Blitzer with twice the energy density of existing pulsed power systems, allowing for more compact version of both the land- and sea-based versions of the railgun.

"We're continuing to test at an impressive pace, building on the successes over the past year to advance both our Blitzer railgun systems and hypersonic projectile capabilities," says Nick Bucci, vice president Missile Defense and Space Systems at GA-EMS. "We are on track to conduct another series of tests using the Blitzer 10 MJ railgun system later this year. With each new firing, we continue maturing the technologies and performing risk reduction toward a multi-mission railgun weapon system that supports future operation on land and at sea.



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/15/2017 11:40:00 PM   
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http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/sd-me-navy-witties-20170515-story.html

Anyone ready to sign up? ... I am too old

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/16/2017 7:24:21 AM   
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Anyone ready to sign up? ... I am too old


Well, I am already an active duty Light Infantry Soldier with over 25 years in service and several combat deployments, so I have no problem saying "next man up"!

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/16/2017 2:14:12 PM   
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http://www.defensenews.com/articles/cno-urges-faster-path-to-a-bigger-navy

Reaffirming previous wish lists.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/16/2017 2:26:30 PM   
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Australia unveils massive new shipbuilding plan

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4509540/Australia-unveils-massive-new-shipbuilding-plan.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/16/2017 10:23:17 PM   
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http://www.guancha.cn/military-affairs/2017_05_16_408639.shtml
(In Chinese)

A report about a PLA Air Defense excercise from last year, showing multiple radar systems in service to them (YLC-6, JY-11B, YLC-2V, JYL-1A etc.). Most interestingly, this unit has been awarded for detecting and intercepting a VLO stealth target for the first time. It is unknown if the stealth target was real or simulated. It is understood that they achieved this feat by "networking" the radar systems together.

In any case, the report declares that "The era where Western invaders will be able to abuse a country at will by simply dispatching their stealth fighters is finally over".

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/17/2017 5:45:02 AM   
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http://www.guancha.cn/military-affairs/2017_05_16_408639.shtml
(In Chinese)

A report about a PLA Air Defense excercise from last year, showing multiple radar systems in service to them (YLC-6, JY-11B, YLC-2V, JYL-1A etc.). Most interestingly, this unit has been awarded for detecting and intercepting a VLO stealth target for the first time. It is unknown if the stealth target was real or simulated. It is understood that they achieved this feat by "networking" the radar systems together.

In any case, the report declares that "The era where Western invaders will be able to abuse a country at will by simply dispatching their stealth fighters is finally over".


I'm not so sure how practical it is. They may have proved radar layer1 networking, but it requires a very large amount of bandwidth to digitally represent these signals. IIRC, its about 3.5Gbps to network LTE signals, and as of now, it can only be done on the backplane of cellsite eNB sites, no way will operators pay for backhaul for that. Military of course has no budget, but that LTE carrier is only 5-20MHz wide. Radar, quite a bit larger. So basically, I call BS....unless they are triangulating uncertainty zones (which is done at a higher layer, and would require less networking bandwidth) with low freq radar- maybe, just maybe enough to generate a lock on for a SAM to go "find" the aircraft.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/17/2017 9:55:31 AM   
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The article is clearly marked "as an opinion from individual writers only" at the footer, so it's not a think-tank analysis. The writer is also a military fan that come out from his own impressions.

While skeptical of multi-bandwidth adaptability from different radar, it's no stranger to Chinese military has its own home growth electronic research and development, the shortcoming of radar emission and identification shouldn't be their weaknesses as long as the necessary weapon systems are developed in time (e.g.: the HQ-9/S-300/400 intergrations into BMD network from Sino-Rus ABM drill).

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Meanwhile, Chinese scientist also announced the unique, softkill-proof radar protection system. Aim to protect the radar itself and key electronics from cooking off by microwave weapons, with a radome-like device for autotuning the countermeasure. It's also possible to passively resist jamming, and can be instantly turn on and off when needed.

http://3g.china.com/act/military/11132797/20170517/30534843.html (Simplified Chinese)

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/17/2017 10:30:23 AM   
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The first of 12 Eurofighter Typhoons to be ordered by Oman has been ceremonially rolled out by BAE Systems.

http://www.baesystems.com/en/article/official-roll-out-for-omani-eurofighter-typhoon-combat-jet-and-hawk-advanced-jet-trainer-aircraft

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/18/2017 10:37:28 AM   
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Joseph Dempsey of the Military Balance has noted that North Korea's Health & Safety regulations have not kept pace with its missile development.



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/18/2017 11:03:23 AM   
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Joseph Dempsey of the Military Balance has noted that North Korea's Health & Safety regulations have not kept pace with its missile development.



The construction crane is surely a part of the sanctioned item, does it?

In desperate time, people can turn everything into a weapon, sometimes the size does matter.



However, the combat effectiveness, and whom to shoot first has the final say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdysnAF_Z_s

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/18/2017 11:46:39 AM   
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"Supreme Leader, please step underneath for a closer look. No worry, the cables are home made."

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/18/2017 12:29:15 PM   
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/05/18/98/0401000000AEN20170518004600315F.html

I assume "gallery positions" are those artillery sites in caves with railroad tracks.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/18/2017 2:50:17 PM   
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Of course it's safe. And if something did happen you could help catch it or break it's fall!




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/18/2017 3:20:05 PM   
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Unfortunately guys, these jokes gone real.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4517330/Four-Indonesian-soldiers-killed-S-China-Sea-training.html

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Four Indonesian soldiers have been killed and eight others injured by artillery fire in an accident during training on a South China Sea island, the army said Thursday.

It took place Wednesday when an artillery cannon malfunctioned during the exercise involving an army reserve battalion on Tanjung Datuk Natuna, on the northwestern fringe of the vast Indonesian archipelago.

"The cannon became uncontrollable and hit soldiers in the vicinity," army spokesman Alfret Denny Tuejeh told AFP.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/19/2017 3:10:29 AM   
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Non-military news, but adjacent to global tension for resources.

China successfully dug and burn solid state methane hydrates, aka 'flammable ice', with better expectation of energy output than natural gas. However, the place the rig digs and the potential environmental impact will be as serious as the SCS tension that barely stays in control:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-05/19/content_29410084.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4518426/Beijing-claims-landmark-success-mining-flammable-ice.html
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201705181053748811-china-mines-combustible-ice-ocean/

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One year ago, China gave EP-3 and answer with a barrel-rolling J-11B. A year later since this incident, US wants China to impress more:

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/south-china-sea-2-chinese-fighters-conduct-unsafe-intercept-of-us-ep-3-recon-aircraft/ (2016 EP-3 incident)
http://thediplomat.com/2017/05/2-chinese-fighters-conduct-unprofessional-intercept-of-us-air-force-wc-135/ (Present)



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/19/2017 10:50:54 AM   
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The first module of the 3rd Type 055 Cruiser/Heavy Destroyer appeared in Shanghai - it's the 5th hull overall.
Rumors could be proven correct that the first batch of Type 055s are to be eight ships.



The two Type 055s in Dalian, built in parallel:



And the first hull in Shanghai will launch before years end:




The integrated mast was recently installed. According to reliable leakers, the mast will be equipped with four X-band AESAs in addition to its known S-band Type 346-series AESA (rumored to be improved Type 346B). The Type 055 would be similiar to the Burke AMDR as in being equipped with two sets of AESA radars in S and X band.





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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/19/2017 11:28:29 AM   
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News from the East China Sea

Chinese SU-30s intercept a US WC-135:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-39971267

Japanese F-15s intercept a Chinese drone near the disputed Diaoyu / Senkaku islands:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4521238/Japan-scrambles-jets-China-allegedly-flies-drone.html


Meanwhile, to the north USS Ronald Reagan is joining USS Carl Vinson for exercises near the Korean peninsula

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/uss-ronald-reagan-duel-carrier-training-korea/index.html


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/19/2017 1:11:29 PM   
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Hmmm.... What are they researching, I wonder...?


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/19/2017 2:03:46 PM   
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/19/russias-killer-satellites-re-awaken

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/21/2017 3:26:29 AM   
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Right after the release of Chains of War, there are some articles wrote by some alarmists. From hacking to lethal espionage failure.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/can-f-35-jets-be-hacked-cyber-threats-endangering-human-lives-not-far-away-warns-expert-1622542

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The F-35 is controlled by Lockheed's complex maintenance and support system known as ALIS, or Autonomic Logistics Information System. Experts have opined that ALIS has been given too much power and sometimes human intervention cannot overrule it.

Bratt said hackers could exploit vulnerabilities in this system and take control which will make the human pilot useless. To avoid this, it is crucial that the hardware remains functional even if a hack or defect has incapacitated its software.

To achieve this, a software alteration is not enough. From the inception of designing the hardware itself, the defences have to be thought about. Bratt mentioned that the current F-35s are being looked at for upgrading their defence system but did not divulge any details saying it is classified.

Recently, a deadly seat ejection flaw was fixed on the F-35A, almost two years after the problem was discovered. Post the recent ransomware attacks that took the world by storm, several cyber experts have warned about defence weapons being targeted by hackers in future including remote controlling of fleets like the F-35 and nuclear access codes.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-killed-jailed-20-us-spies-2010-12-220529226.html

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Beijing systematically dismantled CIA spying efforts in China beginning in 2010, killing or jailing more than a dozen covert sources, in a deep setback to US intelligence there, The New York Times reported Sunday.

The Times, quoting 10 current and former American officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades.

It said that even now intelligence officials are unsure whether the US was betrayed by a mole within the CIA or whether the Chinese hacked a covert system used by the CIA to communicate with foreign sources.

Of the damage inflicted on what had been one of the most productive US spy networks, however, there was no doubt: at least a dozen CIA sources were killed between late 2010 and the end of 2012, including one who was shot in front of colleagues in a clear warning to anyone else who might be spying, the Times reported.

In all, 18 to 20 CIA sources in China were either killed or imprisoned, according to two former senior American officials quoted. It was a grave setback to a network that, up to then, had been working at its highest level in years.

Those losses were comparable to the number of US assets lost in the Soviet Union and Russia because of the betrayals of two infamous spies, Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen, the report said.

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And Jilin-1 Satellite captured the Nellis AFB dated on 11 April 2017, as clearly seen as the loadout mounted to F-15:

http://military.china.com/jctp/11172988/20170521/30549509.html (6 Photos, Simplified Chinese)






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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/22/2017 3:08:41 AM   
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I just happened to find out about this company and its services, and find it interesting to say the least (they founded 15 years ago though) - why can't all of the armed services services just get along?? OMEGA is the USAF's Space-X. I suppose not a huge threat for the USAF and Boeing, they only have 2 KC707s and 1 KC-10.

http://omegaairrefueling.com/vms/

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/23/2017 1:05:45 PM   
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Type 052D Number 6, DDG-154 "Xiamen" soon to be commissioned. As the name already suggest, it will serve in the East Sea Fleet - the first 052D-class DDG for that fleet, actually.
It will be the 2nd commissioning of a 052D in 2017 (first one was DDG-117 "Xining" for the North Sea Fleet). A third commissioning is expected by the end of this year (DDG-118 "Urumuqi" for the NSF as well)



The ship's crest:

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/23/2017 1:45:56 PM   
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The ship's crest:


I think this is a courtesy to the US TV show The Last Ship few years ago. Hardly say it's just a coincidence, given by the tradition of PLA's insignia designs, mythic is very rare.

EDIT streaks: Finally, I found the video. Remember, it's just a show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--8LCa1zsdw

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/23/2017 3:13:07 PM   
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Must have a heck on a keel on that ship ...

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/23/2017 7:15:43 PM   
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The ship's crest:


Made me wonder in the first place. Thought China uses a numbers-only style for their hullnumbers.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/23/2017 9:28:29 PM   
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Made me wonder in the first place. Thought China uses a numbers-only style for their hullnumbers.


Yes, the PLAN hulls only have that three digit number. 1XX for Destroyers, 5XX for Frigates, 8XX for AOR/AOEs and Test Ships, 9XX for landing ships/amphibious assets of all sort. Only the Aircraft carriers get a two digit number like 1X (CV16, CV17 etc.

And as for naming; Destroyers are named after big cities adjacent to the coast-line/Fleet HQ that they will be subordinate to, while Frigates are named after smaller cities. Landing ships are named after mountains, Fleet oilers and supply ships after lakes.
Carriers and presumably large cruisers are named after provinces (which is why the 055 will probably be classified as Destroyer, or else, the number of provinces will eventually run out)

A Few other ship crest;

Type 956EM Sovremenny-class DDG-139 "Ningbo" East Sea Fleet - the Russian text remains to honour its origin. SAM and AShM are modeled to represent ancient Chinese pole-arms; the "Ge 戈" (Dagger-Axe) and the "Ji 戟;" (Halbert), which were the mainstay weapons of Chinese armies.


Type 052D DDG-175 "Yinchuan", 4th 052D of the South Sea Fleet - A blood-thirsty shark wielding both a bloodied Ji-Halbert and a Sword.


Type 054 FFG-525 "Ma'anshan" of the East Sea Fleet. The symbol of the skewered Flipper (acutally a Shark but eh) is clearly inspired by the Russian/Soviet ASW badge. As such, the "Ma'anshan", like other FFG's main-duty is ASW.


And finally, the Type 001/Admiral Kutznesov-class carrier CV-16 "Liaoning". The flower is suppossed to have some symbolism, but I dont know any further.



The crest of the PLAN 1st Carrier Group to the right:



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2017 12:46:33 AM   
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These ships are naval workhorses, but definitely not as non-characteristic as 'minions'. They have insignias for crews to the ship they're servicing in multiple roles at sea; unlike missile boats, they don't have insignia or name because it's solely for combat, and no diplomatic value with it.

As for the name behind pennant numbers, It's just following the PLAN's ship naming system by the Chinese towns/cities/provinces for most of the frontliners, instead of using leader/contributor/serviceman such as USS Stark (destroyer) and USS Duncan (frigate). PLAN only use the human name for training ships and weapon research ships.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2017 1:10:06 PM   
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These ships are naval workhorses, but definitely not as non-characteristic as 'minions'. They have insignias for crews to the ship they're servicing in multiple roles at sea; unlike missile boats, they don't have insignia or name because it's solely for combat, and no diplomatic value with it.

As for the name behind pennant numbers, It's just following the PLAN's ship naming system by the Chinese towns/cities/provinces for most of the frontliners, instead of using leader/contributor/serviceman such as USS Stark (destroyer) and USS Duncan (frigate). PLAN only use the human name for training ships and weapon research ships.

What I meant was that the Xiamen ship crest read "DDG-154" which made me wonder because I thought China does not use the US style of hullnumbers (placing DDG, CVN, SSN, etc. before the actual pennant number).

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2017 1:18:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Supreme 2.0

What I meant was that the Xiamen ship crest read "DDG-154" which made me wonder because I thought China does not use the US style of hullnumbers (placing DDG, CVN, SSN, etc. before the actual pennant number).

Ohhhhhh, the Hull Code. When you said Hull Number, I thought it means Pennant Number. It's actually the same I realized today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_symbol

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