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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 10:42:15 AM

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I can tell you that you can look at the supplies required numbers for your units and divide that by 30, then round up to the nearest integer. That will give you a supply usage number per unit, per day.

So I went through the numbers. It looks like about 1850/day in supply usage for all units. That is adding a bit extra requirement in too.

Adding in groups flying CAP and bombing runs I'm sure it's another 500-800 depending on the day.

Without intense combat there should be some significant surpluses. I will have to be careful to keep a good amount of the surplus in the Southern areas in case of a rail cut. I'll be trying to max out al of those bases in supply soon. A few bases have high fort levels already, and won't need to build much if any more. I will just keep building to level 6 in most locations though.

No need to add "a bit extra" - I had large sample sizes made up of many days looking at individual units. The divide by 30, round up to integer, holds. E.g., required 315 = 11 supplies per day. Required 31 = 2 supplies per day. Etc.

You could add up your CAP and whatnot, and engineers building forts.

I'd say a surplus of 3700 per day before engineers wouldn't be unreasonable, although I wouldn't do much bombing. The Soviet bombing units are lackluster and the terrain is not favorable. Just enough to keep him honest, nothing more.

The "bit extra" is that I averaged similar units instead of adding every single one of them. So I erred on the extra side to make sure I wasn't undercounting.

I will bomb where I can hit industry. If in range too I think the bomber force can hit fields pretty hard with all of those 100kg bombs. We'll see how much emphasis he puts on the air forces in this area.

I'm also prepping RAF and NZ Hudsons and Blenheims to base in China and take out the HI/LI/resources where possible. He can't protect everything, and the AVG has been dominant there even stripped of its best pilots. So anything within 6 hexes of a size two airfield is in danger, or up to 11/14 hexes if it's not CAPed, and that is a lot of his industry. Usually I wouldn't risk the supply, but in this game I will.

I'll so be planning to hit Magwe hard once the Japanese decide to take it.

I counted up the destroyed oil in the DEI yesterday and it's around ~250 so far.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 4:40:48 PM

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 4:50:42 PM

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 5:10:43 PM

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Another reason to round up the usage numbers is that not all Soviet units have finished filling out their TOE, so there will be more mouths to feed, feet to boot, and butts to pant up!

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 5:18:51 PM

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 6:23:21 PM

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.

I took this as meaning the fuel cost of flying the small bombload - sort of like the inefficiency of small ships vs big ships when hauling an equivalent amount of freight.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 8:25:14 PM

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Jan 22, 1942

SUBS: Still tracking the damaged ships from Balikpapan. Got to a transport, sinking xAK Argun Maru, but not the combat ships. Grrr.

Some of the Dutch O-subs start out with poor commanders, and it's nice to see one hit after changing them.

We also had a few opportunities against the BBs in the DEI and Soviets subs do some business between Honshu and Hokkaido, hitting three xAK!!

USSR: The night bombing at Harbin destroys 2-3 Sallys and puts some damage on the fields. Nice. The old Soviet 4Es will keep it coming.

The big move of the day was sending the 202nd para brigade to Shikuka. I didn't think the unit registering movement from Toyohara could make it in time but it did. So instead of facing a base force and taking this important spot, we are thwarted by a big brigade, even though it was in strat mode. I'll have to try and extricate the paras now. Luckily this is a base within fighter range.

DEI: The Japanese send in 3 BB to bombard Singers. Again they escape subs, mines and CD guns to put a hit on the base. So odd the CD guns are playing no part in this at all. The bombardment doesn't do as much as I'd expected though, leaving fields with 17 damage and destroying only 4 planes on the ground. Lets now see how far he has to go to replenish, and if I can interdict the paths using subs.

I anticipation of this move I sen the P-38s to Java and swept Palembang, then sent the 4Es in behind them. It helped a lot that the two A6M groups from Palembang swept Singers this turn, finding only 6 buffalo on CAP. The results of the Palembang strike were good. Another 15 hits for something like 25-30 oil points off again. In addition about 10 Nates, Tojos and A6M2 were shaved off of the CAP of Palembang, and the damaged cruisers escaped Singers.

I used an uncaptured British base on Malaya, Utan Melintang, and sent in CAP and some aviation support and supply. The CAP was a bit slow to react here and Jeff had some of the Netties flying very high, so actually ALL ~40 got torpedo runs!

Only one hit, but it sank DD Craven. Too bad, but the cruisers should make it anyway. They'll flank to beyond Sabang and make for Colombo tomorrow. On the day the CAP did get to some of the Netties after their runs, and knocked down 10 unescorted Vals plus around a dozen Sallys trying to hit an airbase on Sumatra.

PACIFIC: Trying to break out with some Soviet DDs into the Pacific. We'll see if they make it tomorrow.

CHINA: Got some hits on Canton HI, which is good. I'll take tomorrow off and recon the base to see what he does there.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 22, 42
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Sub attack near Jolo at 72,93

Japanese Ships
xAK Argun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA Suzuya, heavy damage
CL Kiso, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, heavy damage
PB Nagata Maru
SC Ch 3
DMS W-16
xAK Hakusika Maru
xAK Kosin Maru #2
xAK Yamagiku Maru
DD Okikaze
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Nikkai Maru

Allied Ships
SS O23

Massive explosion on xAK Argun Maru
SS O23 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Argun Maru

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Night Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
TB-3 x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x TB-3 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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ASW attack near Jolo at 73,92

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, heavy damage
CL Kiso, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, heavy damage
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Nikkai Maru
SC Ch 3
DMS W-16
xAK Hakusika Maru
xAK Kosin Maru #2
xAK Yamagiku Maru
DD Okikaze
DD Ushio
DD Ariake
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
SS S-36

SS S-36 is sighted by escort
S-36 diving deep ....

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Night Naval bombardment of Singapore at 50,84

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 15 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 10 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu
BB Kirishima

Allied ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

BB Fuso firing at Singapore
BB Mutsu firing at 9th Indian Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 9th Indian Division

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Submarine attack near Hakodate at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Bengal Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS L-11

xAK Bengal Maru is sighted by SS L-11
SS L-11 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Bengal Maru

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Submarine attack near Hakodate at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Kenzan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS L-8

xAK Kenzan Maru is sighted by SS L-8
SS L-8 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kenzan Maru

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Submarine attack near Hakodate at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Uga Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS L-9

xAK Uga Maru is sighted by SS L-9
SS L-9 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Uga Maru

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ASW attack near Jolo at 73,91

Japanese Ships
DD Ariake
CA Suzuya, heavy damage
CL Kiso, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, heavy damage
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
PB Shonan Maru #17
SC Ch 3
DMS W-16
xAK Hakusika Maru
xAK Kurohime Maru
xAK Toyokawa Maru
DD Okikaze
DD Ushio
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot

SS Cachalot launches 2 torpedoes at DD Ariake
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-27b Nate x 53
Ki-44 Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed
Ki-44 Tojo: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 21000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Tandjoengbalai , at 47,78

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 10 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Canton , at 77,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-III x 18

Allied aircraft losses
SB-III: 1 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-27b Nate x 32
Ki-44 Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Tsitsihar , at 109,36

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 25

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x SB-2 bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-27b Nate x 29
Ki-44 Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5
B-17E Fortress x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged

Oil hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Utan Melintang at 48,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 29
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Houston
DD Craven, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Boise
DD Cassin
CL Achilles

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Utan Melintang at 48,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CL Achilles

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Utan Melintang at 48,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 10

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Shikuka (126,43)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1118 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 86

Defending force 10572 troops, 87 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 283

Allied adjusted assault: 42

Japanese adjusted defense: 66

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
202nd Airborne Bde /3

Defending units:
Karafuto Mixed Brigade
39th JAAF AF Bn
22nd Special Base Force /1
39th Const Co
71st JAAF AF Bn /1
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Another decent day in the air. That is a lot of pilots lately lost for Japan. Not to mention a lot more experience gain for my guys.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 8:38:41 PM

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.

Right, but my point was that if the pee-wees don't do any damage the supply is a deadweight loss. I suspect they "can", but I don't know if they "will", against any level of forts.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/12/2017 8:43:24 PM

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.

Right, but my point was that if the pee-wees don't do any damage the supply is a deadweight loss. I suspect they "can", but I don't know if they "will", against any level of forts.

They'll damage fields and industry just fine irrespective of forts.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/13/2017 3:32:34 AM

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May I suggest you change the thread name to "Beans, Bullets, Black Oil, and Borscht"?

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/13/2017 3:44:38 PM

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May I suggest you change the thread name to "Beans, Bullets, Black Oil, and Borscht"?

But who counts borscht?

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/14/2017 7:12:04 AM

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May I suggest you change the thread name to "Beans, Bullets, Black Oil, and Borscht"?

But who counts borscht?

Maybe Blini?

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:24:54 PM

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The 23rd started well! Didn't hear sinking sounds, but might have missed the special echoing sound of a sub going down with the Wimbledon finals on!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 23, 42
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Sub vs Sub: SS KXV attacking SS I-164 at 49,85 - near Singapore

Japanese Ships
SS I-164, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXV

SS KXV launches 4 torpedoes at 4,000 yards
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:29:54 PM

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Our subs in the Sulu Sea hunting the damaged cruisers come up empty, but there are many days left to track this game.

That TF ended near Zamboanga, and there are 15 subs nearby.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:35:34 PM

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In daylight the big show happens at Shikuka. The Soviets strike big and it pays off. Even the I-16 doesn't do too badly here, getting 2 A6M2 and a Nate for 4 lost I-16.

That is good because amazingly, he has off-loaded the mini-KB fighter groups here!! These are the best of the best.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 23, 42
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Morning Air attack on Shikuka , at 126,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-27b Nate x 12

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x I-16m24 sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
144th Sentai/A with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
144th Sentai/B with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
144th Sentai/C with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:41:02 PM

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Long time since I started a new game, but the last one that I did had the penetration and effect values zeroed out for the Brit 15", 9.2" and 6" cd guns. Hope it's not the case for your game.

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Long time since I started a new game, but the last one that I did had the penetration and effect values zeroed out for the Brit 15", 9.2" and 6" cd guns. Hope it's not the case for your game.

Wow. I'll check that in the editor!! Thanks for the tip.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:45:07 PM

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Nice to have an 80 bomber coordinated strike at this point in game for the Allies!!! I also like that the SB-2 tail gunners are doing their job!

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Morning Air attack on Shikuka , at 126,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-27b Nate x 2

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 36
SB-2 x 80

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-27b Nate: 2 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed on ground
F1M2 Pete: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x SB-2 bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:49:15 PM

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A bunch of follow-on strikes hit the base hard and knocked out more planes on the ground.

That was about it other than this ground battle, where a few newly inserted units thwart the Japanese attempt to bypass the CD guns at Tarakan.

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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5073 troops, 57 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Defending force 5149 troops, 58 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Japanese adjusted assault: 59

Allied adjusted defense: 202

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
638 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 8th SNLF
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF

Defending units:
35th Avn Sup
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
Makassar KNIL Cdo
VII KNIL Battalion
II Samarinda Cdo
I Samarinda Cdo /1
Tarakan Defenses
HQ TC Borneo
Tarakan MLD Base Force

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/17/2017 8:53:31 PM

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On the day about 15-18 A6M2, 10 Nates and 5-7 Petes were destroyed. I'd think Shikuka airfields are closed.

We were also able to extract the paras from Shikuka which are safely in Sovetskaya Gavan now. I'll prep them for Toyohara and see if a day of rest and some MIGs might do the job there. A lot of resources I could take away by getting that base, not to mention a very nice airfield if I could actually build it up and use it. Probably not, but it's a threat he'd have to answer.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/19/2017 11:16:23 AM

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Jan 24, 1942

SUBS: A few subs attacks to start the night phase but none hit. Still can't relocate the big TF with injured cruisers. Maybe stopped in a dot base?

DEI: A big sweep hits Singers today. He gets 2:1 but still loses 7-9 A6M2 with the expert jocks. We lose some P-40E and P-39 with 50/60 guys, but most are just WIA. This part of the game is something I work at a lot. To keep pilots alive over my bases, especially when he has the better pilots.

I'll hit Balikpapan again tomorrow. Only 13 fighters there. No sign of BBs threatening Singers. Sent in a surprise from Colombo. CM Ariel arrived and with her speed she was able to get in to lay more mines. Up to 561 now. RN sub Trusty also arrived providing some more good working torps.

SOVIETS: Then the real fun started. The Soviets swarmed Harbin with MiGs, then sent in bombers to hit the fields and industry. After the sweeps no Nates were up to protect anything and the strikes are a major success. A good number of Sallys, Lilys and Nates also destroyed on the ground. After the turn recon shows the HI and LI each took ~20 points damage.

DB-T hit Shikuka Oil and it looks like they wiped out the rest of it. It's down to 1(29). If we get Toyohara tomorrow in the planned para-landing it will put a damper on local resource use by the IJ. I'll also continue to look for opportunities to hit big resource centres on Hokkaido, and eventually, Oil and industry on Honshu. Night strikes have been relatively ineffective. I need better pilots, so maybe with these strikes and experience increasing, they'll be ready soon.

CHINA: Nothing really happening here from the Japanese side. I've decided to take advantage of Russian supply, which is flowing into Western bases (

) to do some more industry bombing. I'll attempt to hit 4 targets next turn.

Western bases are maxed out and some Corps are heading there with replacements and upgrades turned on. I'd like to get 3-4 filled out.

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 12

Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x MiG-3 sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 24

No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x SB-2 bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 70

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 6
Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x SB-2 bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 8

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SB-2 bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
DB-3M x 60
DB-3T x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 10 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-27b Nate: 2 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 32
Airbase supply hits 17
Runway hits 85

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
TB-3 x 35

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x TB-3 bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x TB-3 bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Shikuka , at 126,43

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 26
DB-3T x 18

No Allied losses

Oil hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x DB-3T bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Another good day in the air, but also with strategic results. Oil and industry hit hard.

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quote:

obvert: Western bases are maxed out and some Corps are heading there with replacements and upgrades turned on. I'd like to get 3-4 filled out.

I have some areas of China with lots of supply and the Chinese units gain the troops for their TOE all right, but they come disabled and need time to become active troops. It helps to have lots of support from HQs and BFs to teach them how to wear boots!

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quote:

obvert: Western bases are maxed out and some Corps are heading there with replacements and upgrades turned on. I'd like to get 3-4 filled out.

I have some areas of China with lots of supply and the Chinese units gain the troops for their TOE all right, but they come disabled and need time to become active troops. It helps to have lots of support from HQs and BFs to teach them how to wear boots!

Thanks. I'll send an HQ or two out there too.

I did choose commanders with high admin ratings for these hoping to help fill them out and get them ready.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/24/2017 3:34:59 PM

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Wow a couple of weeks vacation and the entire world is upside down.

Interesting game and your worthy opponent is certainly pushing the boundary's..

Summary its Feb 42 :

1) you hold Singapore in good order,
2) bombed the oil production in Palembang and Balikipan into shambles
3) ditto High Industry in Canton perhaps other China cities
4) the Soviets are active and strategic bombing Home Island Industry
5) Supply is rolling into western China
6) You have not mentioned but I suspect you hold most of Burma and the Burma road is open, the Indian Ocean is an Allied lake

There are literally hundreds of ships to be upgraded in 2 months. xAKs to xAPs, AGs, AE, etc etc plus dozens of ships coming on line.

Japan has troops committed to the Manchurian front now till the end requiring upgrade, supply and TOE enhancements just to hold the line till 1944 when Soviet TOE upgrades essentially spell doom.

You have lost a couple of carriers and aggressively sacrificed a number of the older USN HMS task force Z components.

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I think this war maybe over long before the end of 1943.

Your opponent may be very crafty but your own opening aggressive moves must have him caught between a 'mountain and volcano' supply and oil wise.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/26/2017 4:19:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Wow a couple of weeks vacation and the entire world is upside down.

Interesting game and your worthy opponent is certainly pushing the boundary's..

Summary its Feb 42 :

1) you hold Singapore in good order,
2) bombed the oil production in Palembang and Balikipan into shambles
3) ditto High Industry in Canton perhaps other China cities
4) the Soviets are active and strategic bombing Home Island Industry
5) Supply is rolling into western China
6) You have not mentioned but I suspect you hold most of Burma and the Burma road is open, the Indian Ocean is an Allied lake

There are literally hundreds of ships to be upgraded in 2 months. xAKs to xAPs, AGs, AE, etc etc plus dozens of ships coming on line.

Japan has troops committed to the Manchurian front now till the end requiring upgrade, supply and TOE enhancements just to hold the line till 1944 when Soviet TOE upgrades essentially spell doom.

You have lost a couple of carriers and aggressively sacrificed a number of the older USN HMS task force Z components.

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I think this war maybe over long before the end of 1943.

Your opponent may be very crafty but your own opening aggressive moves must have him caught between a 'mountain and volcano' supply and oil wise.

This may be a slightly overenthusiastic assessment!

The two CVs lost was not smart on my part, and I could have achieved everything and perhaps a bit more targeting industry by keeping them on the map. Just impatience.

That said, I'm happy with how much the bombing has accomplished so far even without he Soviets involved. The SRA is reeling and there just don't seem to be enough front line fighters for the Japanese to protect it all.

Supply moving into China, even if it's just in the West right now, is potentially huge. I can at least begin early in filling out some big Corps. If it moves as far as the Sian area, it's massively important.

The Soviets look pretty tough on the ground right now. I just did some counting of how much he has to hold, garrisons and such, and where his troops might be moving. I think there is potential for a breakthrough but I have to be careful. It would backfire completely if he stops the advance and cuts behind. We'll see.

I'm a few days behind here. Travelling and visiting friends and family in the States. In the Boston area for the next few which is fun. Might go see the Constitution and other naval museum ships tomorrow.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/27/2017 12:20:36 PM

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Jan 25, 1942

SOVIETS: Toyohara is taken!! After some MiG sweeps and bombing runs the wore down the 50+fighters present, paras were transported by flying boat and took the base. This is huge and means that the Japanese will struggle to support Shikuka, and likely will have to invade amphibiously to regain Toyohara previous to any other big moves in the area. Another big plus here is that it looks like three fighter groups were destroyed on the ground, including one of the KB A6M2 groups!!

The Soviets will transfer an engineer unit there, fly out the paras and install a naval guard unit of about 40AV. Just enough to hold in the likelihood of a return para strike.

I'll now concentrate on keeping the airfields at Shikuka suppressed and begin targeting port and ground forces to kill supply and begin lowering morale. Since the base is in the clear if air strikes are successful, I may also walk a unit over and see if we can challenge for this base.

In strat bombing news, DB-3M strike Keijo in a firebombing raid and get to 47,000+ fires!! That should have an effect! It'll likely take a few days to see what burns down here.

SUBS: One xAK hit off of Hong Kong.

DEI: The 4Es hit Balikpapan and come up against a small but determined group of A6M2. We lose a few on the day but still get 6 oil hits in total, so it's worth it. I'll now try to concentrate on Djambi for a while.

In other news I'd just moved string bags back to Singers to look out for the next BB bombardment when two xAP show up full of troops! Curious what was happening there. They get 6 fish each and go down like rocks.

CHINA: Some RAF units are transferring to China to add to the bombing campaign here. A strike against Hong Kong is met with a big Nate Sentai, but still gets 5 HI hits.

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Morning Air attack on Toyohara , at 124,46

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-27b Nate x 35

Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai/A with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
13th Sentai/B with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
13th Sentai/C with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
144th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Toyohara , at 124,46

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-27b Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 34

Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 2
Blenheim IV x 3
A-24 Banshee x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengpinang at 51,85

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAP Huzi Maru, Torpedo hits 1
xAP Terukuni Maru, Torpedo hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 10

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 7
Blenheim IV x 7
Hudson IIIa x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Toyohara , at 124,46

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 4

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 44

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB-2 bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
DB-3M x 36
DB-3T x 6

Allied aircraft losses
DB-3M: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 158
Fires 25296

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
DB-3M x 49

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 252
Fires 46200

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Toyohara , at 124,46

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 27
SB-2 x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x SB-2 bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rashin , at 110,46

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 58

No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x SB-2 bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengpinang at 51,85

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAP Terukuni Maru, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
xAP Huzi Maru, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
6381 casualties reported
Squads: 44 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 158 destroyed, 176 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 45 (39 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
6 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 2
B-17D Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Oil hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Hong Kong at 76,64

Japanese Ships
xAK Takao Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PB Chohakusan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Seadragon

SS Seadragon launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Takao Maru
Seadragon diving deep ....

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Ground combat at Toyohara (124,46)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1373 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 83

Defending force 1123 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied adjusted assault: 8

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Toyohara !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 2 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 18 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
519 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
202nd Airborne Bde /1

Defending units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /2
39th JAAF AF Bn /2
38th Const Co
105th JAAF AF Bn /1
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LOTS of planes wiped out today. His pool of Nates is pretty deep to start off, but even that must be draining a bit at this point. I know both Oscars and Zeros are already scarce. I'll try to keep up the pressure on all fronts.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/27/2017 4:16:53 PM

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I really think it's only a (relatively short) matter of time before we have a Bill Paxton moment here. Maybe Lowpe can build a fire (or use the ones you set), sing a couple of songs...

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/27/2017 5:28:29 PM

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Are we suggesting that Lowpe resigns and puts a ten year old girl in charge? ]

After all she survived for months.....

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/27/2017 6:50:54 PM

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An aside. I read both sides.

Could be wrong, but it seems as if the "new shiny thing" of an incredibly early Soviet activation focuses the attention. The whole rest of the "regular" GC has to be prosecuted as well, and the Soviet ping-pong ball might detract from that, especially for the Japan player. Time ticks by every move, and while strat bombing and such is very important, it might steal time and clicks from the more mundane tasks of the 1942 Empire. Or the Allies too I guess.

I think this Soviet activation will be by far the most determinant factor in this game, but the rest of it has to be attended to as well. The more you can make him pay attention to Siberia, the better for you.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 7/27/2017 11:51:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

An aside. I read both sides.

Could be wrong, but it seems as if the "new shiny thing" of an incredibly early Soviet activation focuses the attention. The whole rest of the "regular" GC has to be prosecuted as well, and the Soviet ping-pong ball might detract from that, especially for the Japan player. Time ticks by every move, and while strat bombing and such is very important, it might steal time and clicks from the more mundane tasks of the 1942 Empire. Or the Allies too I guess.

I think this Soviet activation will be by far the most determinant factor in this game, but the rest of it has to be attended to as well. The more you can make him pay attention to Siberia, the better for you.

I agree completely. I would have happily continued the game without the Soviet activation, but I left it to Jeff and he went for it. I think it'll distort the very good beginning he'd made on the naval side. He now has some tough tasks on his plate. The Japanese can usually rely on dominant air power to subdue the Allies in the SRA, China and elsewhere. This seems less and less likely now with each turn.

Singers is a bear ready to defend it's cave, the PI haven't really been a factor at all yet and troops are repairing disabled steadily. I'm only building to forts 4 to save supply in Clark and Bataan. Manila is stopped now at forts 3.

I'm now getting a steady stream of Hurricanes coming through and the Dutch will get a few of those and some P-40s soon, which will change things on Java.

He hasn't done much at all in the Pacific yet, and I made a start at Tulagi and Lunga that could stick if the forts build long enough. My initial object was stalling until enough air groups could get to OZ and defend the industry and resources there. I'm pretty close to that now, so I can already begin to think of defending PM, Fiji, Noumea and some Pacific island bases. I might even take a stab at some central Pacific atolls to add to the pressure.

It's a lot of fun playing the Soviets, but it is going to be a hard road for the Japanese.

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