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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/24/2017 7:55:26 PM   
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Hi Mikmyk

The Thalios pod on the Rafale can´t lase targets. It just returns a "all channels in use message", but it won´t drop any LGB´s.
Attached is a save that shows this behavior.

Try adding a laser designator and the bomb will drop immediately.

Hope this helps

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/24/2017 11:24:03 PM   
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Hello friends.
Please give re-attack capability to SSM-700K (DB # 1714)

Thanks.

https://youtu.be/5DnXnw39D6s




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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/25/2017 5:32:46 PM   
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#608 - PLASN-9786 Delta III Stretch
still have SS-N-18 missiles, this is wrong

#647 - PLASN-9852 [Belgorod]
have wrong sonars systems in database it is MGK-501 Skat-KS in reality:

"Separately it is necessary to dwell on the products of the enterprises of the Concern "Okeanpribor" for the PLASN project 09852. The prototype GAK "Kizuch" was installed on the submarine project 945A order. 3004 (B-336 "Pskov"), the manufacture of hardware devices was conducted at the Taganrog plant "Priboy" from 2011 to 2013. On the basis of this GAK, variants were developed both for upgraded submarines of projects 945M and 971M (Kizhuch-945M and Kizhuch-971M) and for the PLASN of Project 09852, which was named "Kizhuch-PM" (PM is probably for "Remounting"). The order for the implementation of R & D on the subject "Kizhuch-M" was placed by the lead contractor (CDB MT "Rubin") directly to JSC "Concern" Okeanpribor ". In turn, the contract for the manufacture and supply of prototypes of devices for low-frequency R & D products "Kizhuch-PM" for order 664("Belgorod") for the amount of 414 million rubles was signed between the Concern "Oceanpribor" and the plant "Priboy" on July 1, 2014. [Annual report of OJSC Concern Okeanpribor for 2014, annual reports of OJSC Taganrog Plant Priboy for 2011-14].
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1378165.html in russian

So, PLASN 09852 Belgorod should have MGK-540M Kizhuch sonar

#609 - NORSUB-5 [Pr.10831 Losharik]
in database dont have sonar , in reality :
"In addition, the enterprises of the Concern are developing a family of Gneiss products. The family includes the following options:
"Gneiss-SPE" for the AGS project 10831 (head 210 AS-12 aka AS-31 aka Losharik),
"Gneiss-5MK" for the AGS project 1910 (head №01402 АS-15),
"Gneiss-5K.1" for the AGS of the project 1851.1 (head 01431/09431 AS-35),
"Gneiss-PM" for the under construction PL of the project 09852,
"Gneiss-09787" for the currently modernized PLA of the project 09787 (head 381 BS -64, order 07381),
As well as for the SS PL project 09786 (head 398 "Orenburg").
In the integrated structure of the Concern, the head organization for the implementation of R & D "Triton-Gneiss" (for #607 - Triton-NN [Pr.21310]), is the Kirov branch of OJSC Concern Okeanpribor. Installation work on the installation of the product "Gneis" to order 402 was started by JSC "Vodtranspribor-Pusk" in 2012. And are ongoing to the present, for 2015g. Scheduled running and inter-departmental tests. In 2014 The enterprise started the installation of the product "Gneiss-09787" to order 07381, for 2015. Planned installation of the complex to order 01431 [Annual reports of JSC "Vodtranspribor-Start" for 2012-14]."

So,Pr.10831 Losharik have sonar "Gneiss-SPE"


also for "upgraded submarines of projects 945M and 971M" see :
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3959861
and
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4066939

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/26/2017 8:28:46 AM   
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Russian Active/Passive Sonar "Vinyetka-ME" erroneously classified as VDS, instead it is a TASS.
Description of manufacturer: http://www.oceanpribor.ru/docs/vinjetka-em.pdf

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RE: ONR Railgun - 7/26/2017 10:44:51 AM   
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http://newatlas.com/us-navy-electromagnetic-railgun-field-deomnstrations/50631/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO_zXuOQy6A
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1410.2496.pdf (For more info)
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/a-railgun-revolution-in-the-navys-future/ (For more info)

US field-tested railgun at multi-salvo, recorded at least 10 seconds per full charge and fire.

Before it can be fielded to the actual vessels like Zumwalt, let's presume that's the standard rate of fire, as well as the provided velocity and range.

ONR stands for "Office of Naval Research"

#new - ONR 100mm Rail Gun (Experimental)
Round Weight - 11-16kg
Velocity - Mach 6
Range - 100nm (Reported) - 110nm (Media claimed)
Rate of fire - 10-12 seconds (considering the short hiccups from charge and fire)

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RE: ONR Railgun - 7/26/2017 10:00:33 PM   
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DB worklist updated to this point.

Thanks all!

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Chinook Block Ii - 7/28/2017 12:59:11 PM   
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http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-07-28-Boeing-to-Modernize-Add-Muscle-to-Next-Generation-Chinook

Boeing to Modernize, Add Muscle to Next-Generation Chinook
U.S. Army’s Chinook Block II program to extend production, fleet’s lifespan

PHILADELPHIA, July 28, 2017 – Boeing [NYSE:BA] will build and test three U.S. Army CH-47F Block II Chinook helicopters as part of a modernization effort that will likely bring another two decades of work to the company's Philadelphia site.
A recent $276 million Army contract will fund those helicopters, which will validate technology advancements that will increase the iconic helicopter’s lifting power.
"The Army's only heavy-lift helicopter exists to deliver decisive combat power for our ground commanders," said Col. Greg Fortier, U.S. Army project manager for Cargo Helicopters. "The Cargo family is anxious to build upon Col. Rob Barrie's efforts to establish this critical program and deliver an adaptive air vehicle. Increasing payload capacity today enhances battlefield agility and prepares the Chinook for even greater performance gains in the future."
An improved drivetrain will transfer greater power from the engines to the all-new, swept-tip Advanced Chinook Rotor Blades, which have been engineered to lift 1,500 additional pounds on their own. The current configuration of six fuel tanks – three on each side – will become two, allowing the aircraft to carry more fuel and shed weight. Additionally, the fuselage’s structure will be strengthened in critical areas to allow the aircraft to carry additional payload.
“This latest upgrade for the Chinook fleet is a tribute to the robustness of its original design and exemplifies its 55-year legacy of technological advancements,” said Chuck Dabundo, vice president, Cargo Helicopters and program manager, H-47. “The fact that the U.S. Army continues to use and value this platform and they are intending to continue to upgrade it to keep it flying for decades to come is a testament of the capabilities the Chinook team continues to bring.”
Boeing will begin building the test aircraft next year. The test program begins in 2019 and first delivery of the Block II Chinook is expected in 2023. Eventually, the Army will upgrade more than 500 Chinooks to Block II configuration.



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Super Trackers - 7/28/2017 2:22:28 PM   
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Could there be added Hypothetical carrier capable Super Trackers? All the upgraded Super Trackers are land based and I would like the option to add some to minor navy carriers.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/28/2017 11:33:40 PM   
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These may have been mentioned before, but please add
SSBN(x) [not so hypothetical]
SSN Virginia ballistic missile module [ hypothetical]
B-21 "Raider" LRS-B
the new "superfused" W76-1/Mk4A [MI]RVs (roughly 1/3 the CEP of the original W76 [MI]RV) for the Trident II D-5 SLBM


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/29/2017 12:19:49 PM   
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Could you add

Weapon #2289 - Elma Alecto ASW Mortar Salvo [6 rnds]
in Weapon Record also to
Weapon Mount #1990

so i can add as a Hyphothetical weapon for the Visby
and
Weapon #972 - Tp 62 Grampus also be added to Weapon Record

Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/30/2017 9:20:40 AM   
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Russian airborne radar list, radars matched with aircraft types. Probably at long term useful for database editing (in Russian):
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%A0%D0%9B%D0%A1

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/1/2017 12:29:53 AM   
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I know the focus is not on Ground units but as a former M1 Tanker I had to say something.

The M1 Series of tanks has incorrect Ammo capacity and type. The main gun gun ammo of the M1A2 series should be 42 rds. For all variants the .50cal/12.7 mm ammo should be 900rds at combat load, and the 7.62 should be 10,000 rds at combat load. Also the M1 Series did not field an HE round until the M908 HE-OR-T in 1997. Even that is primarily used in Korea.

I don't know if it has any real bearing on the game but the M1 has thermal imaging and not LLTV.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/1/2017 7:40:15 AM   
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Somewhat related to this: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3922857

Can another look be given to this issue? #1203 Laser COIL Shot has a valid launch altitude of 30,000 ft AGL, which means that the plane cannot fire in mountainous areas. Could that be changed to ASL, if possible?

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/3/2017 4:41:27 PM   
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Some requests based on this article about the recent PLA 90th Anniversary Parade:

-PLA HARPY UAV name changed to ASN-301
-Add HQ-22 medium-long range SAM (170km range, 50m - 27km altitude - TEL has 4 missiles)
-Change HQ-9B to new stats (250km range, 50km ceiling) - consistent sources also point to this variant being active-radar guided like the FD-2000 export version.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-08-02/china-shows-new-fighters-missiles-and-drones


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China showcased more than 600 pieces of military hardware in a massive military parade to celebrate the 90th anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) on July 30. The event also marked the public debut of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF)’s Chengdu J-10C and Shenyang J-16 fighters, and some new PLA missile and drone capabilities. Many Chinese analysts suggest these weapons are fully operational, as the PLA usually does not field test platforms in military reviews.

The Shenyang J-16 is a twin-seat interceptor based on the Russian Sukhoi Su-30MKK, powered by two Chinese WS-10 turbofans. Chinese media states that the J-16 is the first true multirole variant of the J-11 family, capable of both air superiority, strike and electronic warfare missions. Experts say its indigenous Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar also acts as a small early warning node, so that the J-16 can perform such missions independently from dedicated platforms such as the KJ-2000

Also appearing were three Chengdu J-20 stealth fighters. Various screen grabs from the J-20 cockpit revealed a new pilot’s helmet with large visors, which could be the basis for a next-generation helmet-cueing system and display, compatible with the PLAAF’s next-generation air-to-air missiles such as the PL-10, and exploiting the J-20’s numerous sensors. Seen deployed on the bellies of each J-20 was a Luneberg lens radar cross section enhancer. This could suggest the maturity of the stealth capability of the J-20, comparable to the Western fighters such as the F-22, which uses similar devices when needing to be seen by air traffic control radars.

Making its debut was the ASN-301 anti-radiation loitering drone, which was only unveiled as a model at the Abu Dhabi IDEX show last February. Reverse-engineered from the Israeli Aerospace Industries Harpy system acquired by China in the 1990s, the ASN-301 has an endurance of four hours, a range of 280 km and a seeker range of 25 km. It targets radar frequencies from 2 to 16 GHz. The ASN-301 is stored in six launchers, mounted on a 6x6 Beiben truck.

The PLA has fielded new and improved surface-to-air missiles, the HQ (Hong Qi, Red Flag)-9B and HQ-22. Although both systems were seen at the Zhuhai Airshow last year, this appearance marked their introduction to service. Initially known by its export designation of FK-3, the HQ-22 has a range of up to 170 km and an effective altitude from 50 m to 27 km. Chinese state media said that the HQ-22 is relatively cheap to produce and will form one of the mainstays of China’s air defense system, replacing the Cold-War era HQ-2.

Based on the Russian S-300 SAM, the HQ-9B marks an upgrade over the HQ-9, achieving a range of up to 250 km and a maximum altitude of 50 km. The HQ-9 is capable of engaging cruise missiles and munitions, as well as fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft. Chinese reports have also highlighted that these missiles could operate alone or as a network of various SAM types.


More info on the HQ-22:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinas-hq-22-surface-to-air-missile-weapon-system.460307/
http://defence-blog.com/army/china-unveils-new-generation-of-surface-to-air-missile-weapon-system-at-the-airshow-china-2016-exhibition-in-zhuhai.html

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/4/2017 8:44:38 AM   
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It seems like the F230 Norfolk ( Type 23 Duke ), 2016 Wildcat, has a wrong cargo capacity stated. In the current DB it states that it can carry 1900 troops and 10000 tons of cargo. I believe it should be 180 troops and 60 tons.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/4/2017 12:12:42 PM   
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In DB Su-33 has no refueling loadout. Instead it can carry air refueling system UPAZ-1K (length of hose 26 m, performance 2300 l/min).
Manufacturer: http://www.zvezda-npp.ru/ru/node/116

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/6/2017 11:52:31 AM   
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Request new missile entry:
KD-20A ALCM (equipped with Imagine Infra Red seeker)



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The latest image (August 2017) suggested that a new variant of KD-20 (KD-20A?) has been developed. It features an IIR seeker in the head section which further improves its anti-jamming capability as well as accuracy against small and hard-to-hit targets.

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/missiles-ii.html#KD-20

A suitable replacement of the aging Silkworm-based and short ranged YJ-63 ALCM for tactical strikes.

In db terms:
-can target mobile targets (soft/hard)
-CEP similiar to other ImIR man-in-the-loop guided ALCMs in Chinese service

Basically same as the KD-88 or YJ-63 only with the range of the KD-20/CJ-10/DF-10 cruise missile family.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/10/2017 2:57:18 PM   
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Double post, sorry

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/10/2017 3:01:24 PM   
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French Navy Super Frelon / Caracal / Super Puma (Cougar)

Super Frelon:
- SA 321Ga are no longer in use in French Navy but I could not find their exact end-date (maybe 1978?),
- Not really important, but the 2 Super Frelon ASW entries (SA 321G) in database should be named SA 321Gb to be consistent with the transport-only variant naming (SA 321Ga),
- All SA 321G(b) entries should have a SAR and a troop transport loadout,
- SA 321G(b) seem to have been operational since 1970 not 1975 (they were delivered in 1967),
- Exocet were tested in 1977 on SA 321G(b) and they seem to have been shortly operational until the Lynx replaced the Super Frelon. We should consider adding a 1977 end-date for the previous entry, so 1970 to 1977 instead of 1975, and adding an entry 1977 to 1984? for a variant able to load 2 exocets,
- The Lynx began to replace the SA 321G(b) in the ASW (SSBN excort) role from 1980. At some point (no exact date found but max 1993), they were no longer used in the ASW role, only Maritime Surveillance, assault/transport and SAR. So we should consider adding an end-date 1993? (and maybe an exocet loadout?) to the 1984 entry and add another entry, 1993? to 2010, with Maritime Surveillance, transport and SAR only.

Caracal:
- 2 Caracal were used by the French Navy to replace the ageing SA 321G(b) in the assault/transport and SAR role between 2008 and 2010 (waiting for NFH). Not important but we could add an entry similar to the french Air Force one's for the Navy.

Super Puma (Cougar)
- The 2 Caracal were replaced by 2 Super Puma in the assault/transport and SAR role between 2010 and 2016. The Super Puma (Cougar) entries in the database for the french Navy (AS532 SC variant) should be removed since they were never deployed in the Navy. They should be replaced by an 2010 to 2016 EC225 Super Puma entry similar to the french army one (just adding a SAR loadout).


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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 8/11/2017 10:11:16 AM   
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Sukhoi Su-57

It's official.

The official designation of the new Fighter of the VKS which prototypes where designated T-50 is Su-57

http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=458649

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JLENS-Blimps - 8/12/2017 11:58:30 AM   
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What about JLENS-Blimps?

Greetings to all!

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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/12/2017 6:02:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kimura

What about JLENS-Blimps?

Greetings to all!


What about them?

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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/13/2017 7:48:51 AM   
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Too strange, that Russian Sukhoi-27 family (Su-30, Su-35S) crafts have no property "Supermanouverability". In same time such crafts as any version Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon (from 200X) have this property.

When this is "Supermanouverability": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_pcTK5Dd4 than this is Star Wars level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6juBT6EnUIc or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EmHoRGm4_w?

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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/13/2017 9:46:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Filitch

Too strange, that Russian Sukhoi-27 family (Su-30, Su-35S) crafts have no property "Supermanouverability". In same time such crafts as any version Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon (from 200X) have this property.

I guess that is because the 3D TVC for Su-35S and Su-30MKI (India) doesn't have the same climb sharpness as 2D TVC does? The Rafale would sound strange to have supermaneuevrability without TVC, and canards should't do much of it (otherwise J-10 and J-20 will also considered Supermaneuverable too).

Another reason is Su-35's aerobatic stunts is performed without any ordinance, and never seen it can do the same with full-arms. Also the US-India Air Force drill long ago also mentioned the Indian Su-30MKI's TVC doesn't give them much of turning advantage when pitting against F-15.

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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/13/2017 12:59:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta
I guess that is because the 3D TVC for Su-35S and Su-30MKI (India) doesn't have the same climb sharpness as 2D TVC does?

But 3D TVC in summary is more powerful than 2D.

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ORIGINAL: Dysta
The Rafale would sound strange to have supermaneuevrability without TVC, and canards should't do much of it (otherwise J-10 and J-20 will also considered Supermaneuverable too).

I agree - very, very strange.

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ORIGINAL: Dysta
Another reason is Su-35's aerobatic stunts is performed without any ordinance, and never seen it can do the same with full-arms.

As far as I see - Rafale and Typhoon perform aerobatic without ordinance too. Taking in account that Rafale don't takes off without drop tanks I think that his supermaneuverability in real life not so good as in CMANO DB.

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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/13/2017 4:35:07 PM   
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Could a SEAD loadout for the SU-25T be considered? Going purely off of the representation in DCS:

L-081 Fantasmagoria
MPS-410 DECM
Kh-25MPU
Kh-58U


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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/17/2017 12:43:48 PM   
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http://www.janes.com/article/73149/chinese-sead-equipped-j-10b-emerges-at-aviadarts-contest
For consideration,
Can't check DB at the moment with no PC but from memory the J-10 has got a SEAD load but don't recall the role specific ESM pod that's mentioned in the article.
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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/17/2017 1:16:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KLAB

http://www.janes.com/article/73149/chinese-sead-equipped-j-10b-emerges-at-aviadarts-contest
For consideration,
Can't check DB at the moment with no PC but from memory the J-10 has got a SEAD load but don't recall the role specific ESM pod that's mentioned in the article.
Cheers.
K

https://mobile.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/895539817412415488

YJ-91 x2
PL-9 x2
K/RKL700A ECM Pod (first time shown at Avidart)
Laser Targeting Pod
And other 2 inner wing pylons for fuel tanks or laser guided bombs



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RE: JLENS-Blimps - 8/17/2017 2:22:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta


quote:

ORIGINAL: KLAB

http://www.janes.com/article/73149/chinese-sead-equipped-j-10b-emerges-at-aviadarts-contest
For consideration,
Can't check DB at the moment with no PC but from memory the J-10 has got a SEAD load but don't recall the role specific ESM pod that's mentioned in the article.
Cheers.
K

https://mobile.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/895539817412415488

YJ-91 x2
PL-9 x2
K/RKL700A ECM Pod (first time shown at Avidart)
Laser Targeting Pod
And other 2 inner wing pylons for fuel tanks or laser guided bombs



They're PL-8 inert training versions in the photo (without front fins).
Its interesting as it implies the emitter locator pod is essential to the SEAD load presumably because the J-10 doesn't have the sensors internally.
For consideration of a change to all the late model J-10 SEAD loadouts?
Regards
K

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They're PL-8 inert training versions in the photo (without front fins).
Its interesting as it implies the emitter locator pod is essential to the SEAD load presumably because the J-10 doesn't have the sensors internally.
For consideration of a change to all the late model J-10 SEAD loadouts?
Regards
K


I haven't see J-10A with SEAD loadout yet, rummaged lots of photos, and only JH-7A (YJ-91) and Su-30MKK (Kh-31) has it before J-10B SEAD was confirmed. Definitely not because of radar consider other two alternatives has inferior dopplers.





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