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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Steam extracts a fee from developers. Many players understandably avoid middle men like Steam. To each everyone's own.

Kevin

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ORIGINAL: thewood1

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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Steam extracts a fee from developers. Many players understandably avoid middle men like Steam. To each everyone's own.

Kevin

So do you boycott all distribution businesses? I am assuming you must home grow all of your food, because there are on average 8-10 companies between you and a farm for a typical meal at home.

I am also assuming that you think Matrix pays nothing for distributing games, processing payments, marketing, etc. through its sites.

I am not for or against Steam, but I discern little difference between Steam and the other companies that Matrix works with to process games to retail. I would bet, to the warfaresims guys, Matrix is just another version of Steam.

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ORIGINAL: cdcool

any two STEAM games, War in the West and Command or whatever. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't, it will ask you to shut down one.

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ORIGINAL: HalfLifeExpert

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ORIGINAL: thewood1

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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Steam extracts a fee from developers. Many players understandably avoid middle men like Steam. To each everyone's own.

Kevin

So do you boycott all distribution businesses? I am assuming you must home grow all of your food, because there are on average 8-10 companies between you and a farm for a typical meal at home.

I am also assuming that you think Matrix pays nothing for distributing games, processing payments, marketing, etc. through its sites.

I am not for or against Steam, but I discern little difference between Steam and the other companies that Matrix works with to process games to retail. I would bet, to the warfaresims guys, Matrix is just another version of Steam.

Yeah, I mean, its basically an obvious assumption for a service like Steam or Matrix to take some money from every sale. That's how Valve benefits and makes money from having 3rd party games on Steam. They only make so much from their catalogue of titles.

While there were some bumps in the road, Steam has been a godsend for independent developers. Introversion Software (which made such games as DEFCON, Darwinia and their most recent title Prison Architect), was among the first indie developers to put their few products on Steam. They had some financial problems a couple times in their 16 year history, and it was literally sales of their games on Steam that kept them alive as a company.

The company's wiki page gives some details and sources on the company's history, and as an example of a great indie developer success story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introversion_Software

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ORIGINAL: cdcool

any two STEAM games, War in the West and Command or whatever. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't, it will ask you to shut down one.

Why exactly would you want to run two games at a time? I never thought of such a limitation because it never crossed my mind to play two games at once.


I've been using Steam almost as long as it has been in existence, and I honestly do not understand most of the criticism.

I am especially irritated when people refer to Steam as the company (i.e. "Steam needs to fix this"). Valve is the company, Steam is the service/software.

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ORIGINAL: cdcool

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ORIGINAL: HalfLifeExpert

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ORIGINAL: thewood1

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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Steam extracts a fee from developers. Many players understandably avoid middle men like Steam. To each everyone's own.

Kevin

So do you boycott all distribution businesses? I am assuming you must home grow all of your food, because there are on average 8-10 companies between you and a farm for a typical meal at home.

I am also assuming that you think Matrix pays nothing for distributing games, processing payments, marketing, etc. through its sites.

I am not for or against Steam, but I discern little difference between Steam and the other companies that Matrix works with to process games to retail. I would bet, to the warfaresims guys, Matrix is just another version of Steam.

Yeah, I mean, its basically an obvious assumption for a service like Steam or Matrix to take some money from every sale. That's how Valve benefits and makes money from having 3rd party games on Steam. They only make so much from their catalogue of titles.

While there were some bumps in the road, Steam has been a godsend for independent developers. Introversion Software (which made such games as DEFCON, Darwinia and their most recent title Prison Architect), was among the first indie developers to put their few products on Steam. They had some financial problems a couple times in their 16 year history, and it was literally sales of their games on Steam that kept them alive as a company.

The company's wiki page gives some details and sources on the company's history, and as an example of a great indie developer success story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introversion_Software

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ORIGINAL: cdcool

any two STEAM games, War in the West and Command or whatever. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't, it will ask you to shut down one.

Why exactly would you want to run two games at a time? I never thought of such a limitation because it never crossed my mind to play two games at once.


I've been using Steam almost as long as it has been in existence, and I honestly do not understand most of the criticism.

I am especially irritated when people refer to Steam as the company (i.e. "Steam needs to fix this"). Valve is the company, Steam is the service/software.

Why play two Steam games at once? maybe because I have a dual monitor setup or Steam setup on another computer and I want to play two games at once..LOL or have them running at the same time because I enjoy multitasking and playing two or more games at once..LOL Steam is a Cloud storage company for pc games, I like having all my games in one place. I haven't criticized Steam, I've been on it longer than you, I'm just stating a limitation which is a fact. When Steam first started, you could only install on your root drive, do you remember that?

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ORIGINAL: thewood1

I didn't mean to make it seem that I never used Steam. About half my games are on steam. Its just that with all the third party stuff and constant service updates, I was concerned that Steam might not be a great platform for a game that requires a lot of manual intervention.

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ORIGINAL: michaelm

The same version of Command runs on both Steam and Matrix. On Steam, you may have quicker access to new scenarios. However, updates to Steam tend to lag behind; you can manually add SR updates to the Steam copy and Steam will eventually override it with the official updates when it sees them.

I have both on my PC; trick is sometimes making sure the updates are applied correctly.

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ORIGINAL: michaelm

The same version of Command runs on both Steam and Matrix. On Steam, you may have quicker access to new scenarios. However, updates to Steam tend to lag behind; you can manually add SR updates to the Steam copy and Steam will eventually override it with the official updates when it sees them.

I have both on my PC; trick is sometimes making sure the updates are applied correctly.

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ORIGINAL: Peter66

Steam does allow you play two games at once. I've never had an issue after an update to Steam about 2-3 years ago. I also run Steam version of Command on two computers at the same time with no issues. Hope that clears some things up with some members.

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ORIGINAL: Peter66

Just booted two games up at once through Steam while in Online mode. Worked perfectly fine. Could you please show me where it is against their policy? I think, although maybe mistaken, that you are referring to their Source engine games; which can not be used at the same time.