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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/11/2017 9:18:30 PM   
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I thought they were the same thing, blade runner being the movie name?

Anyway, I have just bought Rome and Juliet by William Shakespeare; 50p from the charity shelf at the supermarket.

Bit of a change from Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War which the bastard didn't even finish writing properly - leaving you mid sentence - "sacrifice to Artemis...."
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Don't you just hate it when th.....


He reached his writing plan monthly limit and had to wait until the next month when he would have gotten another 10K words.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/11/2017 10:45:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just finished "Maquis" by George Millar.

He was one of the SOE agents in France in 1944. The book was published in 1946 and is one of the few stories of behind the lines stuff written by those who actually did it. I recommend the book.

I think there is a huge difference between books written by "historians" after the event and people who were actually there. People who have been through a war generally talk about it less than those who haven't.


Another personal account book I recommend is "Those Devils In Baggy Pants" by Ross S. Carter, a parachutist in the 505th (I think). Written in about 1948. He went through North Africa, Italy (Anzio), Normandy, Battle of the Bulge. Died of cancer aged 28 as the book was finished. What a pisser to have gone through all that, one of only about three from the original platoon to survive.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/12/2017 5:24:54 AM   
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I thought they were the same thing, blade runner being the movie name?

Anyway, I have just bought Rome and Juliet by William Shakespeare; 50p from the charity shelf at the supermarket.

Bit of a change from Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War which the bastard didn't even finish writing properly - leaving you mid sentence - "sacrifice to Artemis...."
warspite1

Don't you just hate it when th.....


He reached his writing plan monthly limit and had to wait until the next month when he would have gotten another 10K words.
warspite1

Yeah, its a problem. He should have shopped around for a better deal. I believe Sky allows you to save unused words for use the following month, rather than simply losing unused words.

Its not just in the literary world that this problem exists; the world of classical music has the same problem. Debate continues to this day why Schubert's wonderful 8th Symphony was left unfinished even though he lived for 6 more years. The simple truth is he ran out of notes and then couldn't afford a new contract.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/12/2017 10:45:39 AM   
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I thought they were the same thing, blade runner being the movie name?

Anyway, I have just bought Rome and Juliet by William Shakespeare; 50p from the charity shelf at the supermarket.

Bit of a change from Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War which the bastard didn't even finish writing properly - leaving you mid sentence - "sacrifice to Artemis...."
warspite1

Don't you just hate it when th.....


He reached his writing plan monthly limit and had to wait until the next month when he would have gotten another 10K words.
warspite1

Yeah, its a problem. He should have shopped around for a better deal. I believe Sky allows you to save unused words for use the following month, rather than simply losing unused words.



Its not just in the literary world that this problem exists; the world of classical music has the same problem. Debate continues to this day why Schubert's wonderful 8th Symphony was left unfinished even though he lived for 6 more years. The simple truth is he ran out of notes and then couldn't afford a new contract.



Laugh ou

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/12/2017 4:23:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: altipueri

I thought they were the same thing, blade runner being the movie name?

Anyway, I have just bought Rome and Juliet by William Shakespeare; 50p from the charity shelf at the supermarket.

Bit of a change from Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War which the bastard didn't even finish writing properly - leaving you mid sentence - "sacrifice to Artemis...."
warspite1

Don't you just hate it when th.....


He reached his writing plan monthly limit and had to wait until the next month when he would have gotten another 10K words.
warspite1

Yeah, its a problem. He should have shopped around for a better deal. I believe Sky allows you to save unused words for use the following month, rather than simply losing unused words.



Its not just in the literary world that this problem exists; the world of classical music has the same problem. Debate continues to this day why Schubert's wonderful 8th Symphony was left unfinished even though he lived for 6 more years. The simple truth is he ran out of notes and then couldn't afford a new contract.



Laugh ou

warspite1

My god! this lack of words is more of a problem tha......


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/12/2017 7:29:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I finished The Vietnam War (Lawrence). What an excellent introductory book to get one into the history of this war. As is my usual MO, before embarking on a subject I like to read a high level overview to get context, before drilling down - and this was perfect for the purpose.

Having read it, I feel I have a reasonable grasp of the chronology of the war and the key reasons that each - the French, the Americans, assorted Allies and the Vietnamese - fought, the problems they faced, both militarily, economically and diplomatically and what led to ultimate Vietnamese victory.

Strangely, I had never realised that Pol Pot and the Khymer Rouge were a by-product of the Vietnam war (I must have seen The Killing Fields about 30-40 years ago). Good to understand that a bit more.

Having read this (and seen Ken Burns excellent documentary) am I interested in further reading? Probably not - but only because warfare post Hiroshima does not really interest me. But I am really glad I read this book and finally have at least some idea about that conflict.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/12/2017 9:23:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: altipueri

I thought they were the same thing, blade runner being the movie name?

Anyway, I have just bought Rome and Juliet by William Shakespeare; 50p from the charity shelf at the supermarket.

Bit of a change from Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War which the bastard didn't even finish writing properly - leaving you mid sentence - "sacrifice to Artemis...."
warspite1

Don't you just hate it when th.....


He reached his writing plan monthly limit and had to wait until the next month when he would have gotten another 10K words.
warspite1

Yeah, its a problem. He should have shopped around for a better deal. I believe Sky allows you to save unused words for use the following month, rather than simply losing unused words.



Its not just in the literary world that this problem exists; the world of classical music has the same problem. Debate continues to this day why Schubert's wonderful 8th Symphony was left unfinished even though he lived for 6 more years. The simple truth is he ran out of notes and then couldn't afford a new contract.



Laugh ou

warspite1

My god! this lack of words is more of a problem tha......


Did you know you can extend your monthly words? By purchasing a WordBank, you can plug in and type away to your heart's content.
One minor limitation: Wordbank is limited to a certain vocabulary. So you may have to use synonyms or simplify your prose.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/14/2017 7:03:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		The recent Dunkirk film and reading I did inspired by that, has led me to leave the seas and oceans and learn a bit more about the RAF. So the next book to be read is The Right of the Line - The role of the RAF in World War II (Terraine). Its a weighty tome for a paperback! 687 pages before the Appendix - goodness.....let's hope its worth the read.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/14/2017 7:36:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reading a police procedural novel where the sinking of HMS Hampshire provides the backdrop to the story. not as good as I wanted but still interesting due to the historical disaster is the foundation of the story.

Any book you can recommend about the sinking of HMS Hampshire?

Any new facts revealed about the sinking of HMS Hampshire? Since it is now over hundred years since the sinking I am thinking that some secret documents might have been released.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/14/2017 8:12:11 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/16/2017 7:07:55 PM   
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The recent Dunkirk film and reading I did inspired by that, has led me to leave the seas and oceans and learn a bit more about the RAF. So the next book to be read is The Right of the Line - The role of the RAF in World War II (Terraine). Its a weighty tome for a paperback! 687 pages before the Appendix - goodness.....let's hope its worth the read.
warspite1

One chapter in and yes, this looks like a serious book


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/16/2017 7:19:37 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/16/2017 7:20:33 PM   
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CV Formidable? Have you gone mad?
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Mad old boy, why ever so?





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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/16/2017 10:21:48 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 2:28:58 PM   
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CV Formidable? Have you gone mad?
warspite1

Mad old boy, why ever so?


Don't get me wrong-she's a real beaut-in a bare knuckle brawling sort of way. Kind of like your admiration for the 'all business' look of the South Dakota class USN BBs. But you've changed your avatar away from that other man-crush ship of yours. War...something something? The change in mentation concerns me a bit.

ETA: Not really.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 7:40:48 PM   
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i got this work recently - very detailed in the damage specifics -




+100!

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 9:41:47 PM   
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i got this work recently - very detailed in the damage specifics -




+100!


Bought it the day it came out. But, now, you can download it free.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 9:44:18 PM   
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i got this work recently - very detailed in the damage specifics -




+100!
warspite1

Does the author give conclusions or is this a mere presentation of the facts (as known at the time of writing)? For example, what does the author believe to have been the cause of the demise, so violently, of the British battlecruisers?


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 9:47:17 PM   
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CV Formidable? Have you gone mad?
warspite1

Mad old boy, why ever so?


Don't get me wrong-she's a real beaut-in a bare knuckle brawling sort of way. Kind of like your admiration for the 'all business' look of the South Dakota class USN BBs. But you've changed your avatar away from that other man-crush ship of yours. War...something something? The change in mentation concerns me a bit.

ETA: Not really.
warspite1

As per the sig line, I will be displaying some of the ships and aircraft of the British Pacific Fleet over the coming month or so. No one and nothing can replace that saucy little strumpet, HMS Warspite, in my affections


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 10:16:29 PM   
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i got this work recently - very detailed in the damage specifics -




+100!
warspite1

Does the author give conclusions or is this a mere presentation of the facts (as known at the time of writing)? For example, what does the author believe to have been the cause of the demise, so violently, of the British battlecruisers?


I can't remember Campbell's specifics except that I agreed with him.
Innes McCarthy reaches some conclusions in Jutland 1916: The Archaeology of a Naval Battlefield.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 10:18:00 PM   
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CV Formidable? Have you gone mad?
warspite1

Mad old boy, why ever so?


Don't get me wrong-she's a real beaut-in a bare knuckle brawling sort of way. Kind of like your admiration for the 'all business' look of the South Dakota class USN BBs. But you've changed your avatar away from that other man-crush ship of yours. War...something something? The change in mentation concerns me a bit.

ETA: Not really.
warspite1

As per the sig line, I will be displaying some of the ships and aircraft of the British Pacific Fleet over the coming month or so. No one and nothing can replace that saucy little strumpet, HMS Warspite, in my affections


Does the RN have any plans for another ship of that name? Or do they retire the names of memorable ships, like hurricane names?

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/17/2017 11:19:16 PM   
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i got this work recently - very detailed in the damage specifics -




+100!
warspite1

Does the author give conclusions or is this a mere presentation of the facts (as known at the time of writing)? For example, what does the author believe to have been the cause of the demise, so violently, of the British battlecruisers?


I can't remember Campbell's specifics except that I agreed with him.
Innes McCarthy reaches some conclusions in Jutland 1916: The Archaeology of a Naval Battlefield.



having only just got the book i havent gotten to its conclusions, but a quick glance at the summary looks like he is more on the side of it being a stalemate mostly but he specifically only is looking at the fighting in the battle itself so a lot of other factors are deliberately omitted from this account, this being said he does believe that despite the wealth of information there are still some gaps (or at least at the time of this book being written) that make a final assessment difficult.

What though i find extremely impressive about this book though and what attracted me to it, is that it has alot of diagrammatic drawings in it of the ships with all the hit locations on them and in them and the angles of the shells

in all i think the book is more on the side of providing the details of the battles themselves in terms of the ships involved, movements, hits and ammo expediture among other things - but that said, it is presented well with alot of well written text from what i see so far.

I am doing a few little battleship drawings of my own at the moment, in particular SMS Rheinland, and so this book is a great resource for me too

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/18/2017 3:37:01 AM   
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For example, what does the author believe to have been the cause of the demise, so violently, of the British battlecruisers?


Well, to be blunt, they were hit by enemy shells and / or torpedoes and then caught on fire and / or exploded. Rather violently. Duh...

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/18/2017 5:51:25 AM   
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For example, what does the author believe to have been the cause of the demise, so violently, of the British battlecruisers?


Well, to be blunt, they were hit by enemy shells and / or torpedoes and then caught on fire and / or exploded. Rather violently. Duh...
warspite1

Great insight! Maybe you should write a book. "Why ships go bang and like explode and stuff" (Chickenboy) - Published by Wang Care Publishing





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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/18/2017 5:53:31 AM   
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+100!


Bought it the day it came out. But, now, you can download it free.
warspite1

Well that's handy. I'll take a look.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/18/2017 3:06:41 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 10/27/2017 12:12:15 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/1/2017 10:55:30 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/2/2017 1:49:42 AM   
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Re-reading The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett.





This is a real classic. I re-read it earlier this year as part of my bucket list items. One of my all time faves.

Now I'm re-reading Hunt for Red October.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/2/2017 4:00:01 PM   
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Re-reading The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett.





Never heard of it. Whatsit 'bout?

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