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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/18/2017 7:05:27 PM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/21/2017 5:18:07 PM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/23/2017 11:17:17 PM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/28/2017 8:33:34 AM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/29/2017 10:25:34 PM   
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Crackaces I look forward to your AAR in the dropbox. (which will go live for the Soviets to see turn 5 -- 5 turns behind).


Soviet Air Commander



I will move it from the Dropbox that has been communicating a plan with my peers to a thread. It should garner some activity ;)
It will be interesting to see how my bridgehead across lake Pskov develops .. I really don’t know yet what I want to do!


I wonder about your ability to move supplies across there. How's your movement allowance this turn? I guess we'll find out.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/29/2017 10:28:01 PM   
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Drakken, many thanks again!

Just thought you would like to see how we are doing in time turn around terms as compared to the other team game

Turn 2 - EightMP 15days 2by3+ 6days
Turn 3 - EightMP 15days 2by3+ 11days



Just pointing out that we are actually going _slower_ than the historical event. I had a friend who refused to play ASL with me, preferring World in Flames, because he was opposed to playing a game that took longer than the event simulated.

Hmmm...

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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 10/31/2017 2:06:25 PM   
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Just pointing out that we are actually going _slower_ than the historical event. I had a friend who refused to play ASL with me, preferring World in Flames, because he was opposed to playing a game that took longer than the event simulated.

Hmmm...


In the era of new fashions for "slow food" and "slow TV" perhaps we can set the fashion for slow wargaming!

It probably was always going to be slow and you'd have to appreciate the game for its team aspects rather than speed, occupying all your wargaming leisure time, or even being able to get to the end.

However for what it is worth experience from the other team game is that the longer teams are settled and the more turns are done the faster it does get. The early turns are pretty intense anyway plus you are probably still working out who does what each turn - and getting to know the styles of your team mates. I do expect mud turns for instance to go much quicker.

My guess is the problem is never from people going slow - it is the long gaps in between. So it is really really important never to leave a file with nobody doing anything. It should always be with somebody and no one should ever be delayed in going because they do not know if it is their go or not. Having a file sitting in the dropbox with several people raring to go and no one feeling they can is a real killer. It is a never ending problem - the team managers are in charge but everyone can help. It also helps if each team can give the other side the best indication of when it will be back on the other side. For my part I do try to do things at home on my computer when I think a game file will be returning, and go out when I think it will not. The better idea we can give to the other side the better the chance they can pick up straight away.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/9/2017 9:31:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Steam version automatically updated to the new public beta. Hope that version incompatibility is not an issue.

Also, what features of the new patch will actually take effect in our game started under the older version? I did notice that IL-2's now are listed as "Dive Bombers" instead of "Tactical bombers". I wonder about the German supply nerf, that will make a big difference in our game, I think.

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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/10/2017 11:59:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes and do not worry. In the sign up thread the rules said update when steam does so nothing wrong there.

In another thread on this site the message was we should not play it with an older version after it has been saved under a newer version. It will not have been designed that way so peculiar results are possible during the changeover. There is no lock this time on it though and I suspect many will do so for a turn or two.

As it is a minor upgrade my own personal thoughts were that it may be better to allow some flexibility this turn on when we upgrade as otherwise it will mean a longer turn as we have to wait for all to upgrade first. The rules do state that we should although the rule could be changed just this once for this update if everyone agrees or no one objects. Does anyone have any strong objections - otherwise I can put in the sign up thread a rule change that we can be flexible on when everyone updates to this version from the last one.

I suspect we may have to find out what the changes will mean - and will be one of the first games to report back on it.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 2:11:24 PM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 2:58:57 PM   
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Heya guys I set up a Discord for our team and it has really helped us share tips, hints and to have a general good natter about the game - and quite a lot not about the game too! So I thought it would be good to extend it for everyone in the game. I will send a PM to everyone - please join us!



But but but, I don't speak the Queens English!!!!

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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 3:01:55 PM   
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But but but, I don't speak the Queens English!!!!


Tut! Tut! Rebel colonials!

We have someone who has created dropboxes for the Axis team and both teams now and will own them going forward.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 3:04:01 PM   
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Heya guys I set up a Discord for our team and it has really helped us share tips, hints and to have a general good natter about the game - and quite a lot not about the game too! So I thought it would be good to extend it for everyone in the game. I will send a PM to everyone - please join us!



But but but, I don't speak the Queens English!!!!



Tut! Tut! Rebel colonials!


Where where? OMG run!

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 3:06:39 PM   
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Heya guys I set up a Discord for our team and it has really helped us share tips, hints and to have a general good natter about the game - and quite a lot not about the game too! So I thought it would be good to extend it for everyone in the game. I will send a PM to everyone - please join us!



But but but, I don't speak the Queens English!!!!



Tut! Tut! Rebel colonials!


Where where? OMG run!



What about your Northern Breathern? Love these guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ


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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 3:07:30 PM   
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Heya guys I set up a Discord for our team and it has really helped us share tips, hints and to have a general good natter about the game - and quite a lot not about the game too! So I thought it would be good to extend it for everyone in the game. I will send a PM to everyone - please join us!



But but but, I don't speak the Queens English!!!!



Tut! Tut! Rebel colonials!


Where where? OMG run!



What about your Northern Breathern? Love these guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ




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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 3:13:53 PM   
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Yes Ulla!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kP7M82EtY

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/14/2017 4:11:04 PM   
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Yes Ulla!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kP7M82EtY


Ya, I don't like those arrogant s.o.b.s too ;-P

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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 4:23:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 1 Soviet North - Best and Worst Case

While waiting for the Soviet side to do their turn 1, I offered to the ground commanders what I thought could be the best and worst cases that could happen. I did not strictly check all of the possible movement points - but at least the following were reasonable possibilities. (Black arrows represent possible movement by Soviet Units, red lines encompass isolated pockets


In the Best Case Soviet units stay in isolated pockets. In the worst case the Soviets are able to break pockets and chain link them either by moving onto hexes, or flipping control through their Zone of Control over neighbouring hexes. This would actually isolate much of the 4th German Panzer army near the river Dvina, some of 18th army in Courland, and move back the frontlines to where it is marked with white lines. Everything not in the German pockets behind this front line would flip back to Soviet controlled territory! Many Soviet units can be evacuated to safety through the ports in Courland. And next turn the higher costs of movement into newly reconquered territory will mean the FBD rail repair units will not repair and convert as many rail hexes.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 5:16:59 PM   
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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 5:24:50 PM   
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Understand - with many different ways we all can use what is best for them. Anyone who does want to join is still more than welcome! The default in the rules is everyone had to be contacted by email. The Axis team will be using Discord for quick easy communications, but will know everything for you guys has to be by email.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 6:45:05 PM   
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Understand - with many different ways we all can use what is best for them. Anyone who does want to join is still more than welcome!


If you have Tea and Crumpets, count me in! :)

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RE: 2x3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 6:56:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 1 Soviet Centre - Best and Worst Case

A similar exercise of best and worst case scenarios was done for the centre


Again in the worst case scenario the pockets of Soviet units could be broken in to and chain linked. The Panzer Groups could be left isolated far behind the front lines, with most of the territory taken by the Axis flipped back to Soviet control.

Let us see what the Soviet side does!

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 7:01:37 PM   
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Understand - with many different ways we all can use what is best for them. Anyone who does want to join is still more than welcome!


If you have Tea and Crumpets, count me in! :)


There was an invite code posted on the forum for both teams of EightMP - so I guess anyone can join that one if they want to. I know the admin said that would be OK. There is no reason why all interested parties cannot join the party - but I guess the admin for each channel has the power to decide! The axis team do distribute tea and biscuits with comfy chairs when the soviets spill the beans unencoded!



Hehehehe, I will stop by and say, "Hi" in the future.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 7:12:27 PM   
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Yes, I really dislike talking on the internet so I will not go on Discord. But I am on the forum daily so if there is anything, just PM or talk to me here ;)


Although we have been carrying on a conversation within he "MessHall" channel .. Discord does offer a place to easily communicate who has the turn, and an estimate when they will be finished for overall coordinating the turn. Other means of communication have not been so fruitful ..


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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/15/2017 8:05:26 PM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/17/2017 7:52:47 PM   
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Yes, I really dislike talking on the internet so I will not go on Discord. But I am on the forum daily so if there is anything, just PM or talk to me here ;)


Although we have been carrying on a conversation within he "MessHall" channel .. Discord does offer a place to easily communicate who has the turn, and an estimate when they will be finished for overall coordinating the turn. Other means of communication have not been so fruitful ..




The thing is that I dont want my Identity being revealed with my voice. so I simply dont use voice on the internet at all. Although I will make a bigger effort to say any information usefull to the other team to SparkleyTits, whom I think is the team manager of the Axis ?

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/17/2017 7:55:28 PM   
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Yes, I really dislike talking on the internet so I will not go on Discord. But I am on the forum daily so if there is anything, just PM or talk to me here ;)


Although we have been carrying on a conversation within he "MessHall" channel .. Discord does offer a place to easily communicate who has the turn, and an estimate when they will be finished for overall coordinating the turn. Other means of communication have not been so fruitful ..




The thing is that I dont want my Identity being revealed with my voice. so I simply dont use voice on the internet at all. Although I will make a bigger effort to say any information usefull to the other team to SparkleyTits, whom I think is the team manager of the Axis ?


We don’t use voice .. only text ..but PM’s to Sparkley works great ! Thanks!


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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/17/2017 7:56:28 PM   
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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/17/2017 7:56:58 PM   
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we don’t use voice .. only text ..but PM’s to Sparkley works great ! Thanks!




Oh.... Ah I didnt know you could use text with Discord.

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RE: 2by3+ Person Team Game - THREAD FOR BOTH SIDES - 11/17/2017 10:21:34 PM   
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Heya guys I set up a Discord for our team and it has really helped us share tips, hints and to have a general good natter about the game - and quite a lot not about the game too! So I thought it would be good to extend it for everyone in the game. I will send a PM to everyone - please join us!



But but but, I don't speak the Queens English!!!!


Then just speak the Charles gibberish.

God save the Queen


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