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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 11/29/2017 3:18:13 AM

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Careful using divebombers against the Allies at 10-15K as they will dive bomb right into the teeth of a lot of AA. You might consider level bombing at 9k or 16K instead. Still, figure you will lose some.

If you show all those carriers in the North, what will the Allies do knowing they are there?

IIRC at 9,000 DB will glide bomb, but I thought they would still dive bomb at 16,000 ft??

Glide bombing was done away with during a patch about two years ago, at the same time that the cut between LowG/LowN bombing and GndB/NavB was changed from 5/6000 feet to 1/2000 feet. Something to do with simplifying the game engine for air combat and bombing.

So level bomb at 9,000 instead of glide bomb, but what about 16,000 ft? They still dive bomb or they level bomb?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 11/29/2017 11:10:56 AM

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Dont' know...

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 11/29/2017 4:15:59 PM

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They only dive at 10,000 <= altitude setting <= 15000

Above 15K or below 10K is level bomb.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 11/29/2017 4:21:47 PM

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They only dive at 10,000 <= altitude setting <= 15000

Above 15K or below 10K is level bomb.

Thank you.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 11/30/2017 9:36:50 PM

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23 May 43

Sub War

About 12 hexes SW of Prince Rupert Island, the I-35 found the DD Doyle and put a torpedo into her. Later, I heard sinking sounds. Looks like Ted is minus one DD. Here�s the interesting part. After the turn finished, I checked that area of the map to see what she was escorting. It�s the Mississippi! That old hulk is still floating, but she has no escort. I have 2 subs in the area. I hope to nail her tomorrow and put her out of her misery.

5 Fleet

Nothing new here really. My Sallies and artillery did their daily bombing. Another C-47 was shot down with another 4 op losses. I wish I knew how many he was flying in each day. I�m setting the Oscars to LRCAP for tomorrow to see if that makes a difference with the enemy transports. Looks like the convoy with 19 Division is a couple of days out from dropping them off at Adak.

Adak has 22.4k supply and the fort s at 5.17.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

A couple of Allied CLs bombarded Lunga causing moderate damage to the infrastructure. Wish I had a sub there. They were unescorted. This may be the next target. That�s fine with me. I hope he spends the rest of the year cleaning up all the minor bases in the Solomons.

Gasmata�s airfield was the main target today, getting a sweep and 2 bombing runs. A total of 10 fighters and 52x 4E bombers hit the place. Losses were 3 Zeros (1 KIA, 1 WIA) and 1 Tojo (1 WIA) to 2x Kittyhawks and 6x 4E bombers (and 2 op losses). The airfield gained a little more damage: 0-40-44. Those bomber losses were nice.

Rabaul was hit by an unescorted 2E bomber raid. My Tojo IIc did nicely. The 21x B-25/26s were hit by 21 Japanese fighters, mainly the new Tojo sentai, and lost 9 of their number to no Japanese losses. Airfield damage was very minor. The damage to the airfield was reduced from 0-77-0 to 0-49-0.

KB and the replenishment fleet arrived at Truk undetected and will repair minor damage until their next sortie, whenever that will be.

SRA
Burma

Nothing to report.

China

The attack on Chengtu was a success. The 29:1 deliberate attack trashed the Chinese defenders (2x Chinese Corps and a BF) causing 5219(407) Chinese casualties to 948(1) Japanese losses. The 3 Tank Division and 15 Tank Regiment successfully pursued and will attack the remnants tomorrow. The Chinese fled to the clear terrain to the SW of Chengtu. The remainder of the 14 Army (4 divisions and a mortar battalion) will head south to liberate Neikiang (the base to the west of Chungking). The armor will head there after killing off the remnants.

The infrastructure took a beating but I�ll take what�s left:

Manpower: 2(1)
Resources: 72(108)
HI: 32(48)
LI: 72(108)

I also destroyed about a dozen planes on the ground, most of the remaining Chinese Air Force. I see just a couple bombers at Chungking.

The Chinese now control only 4 bases: Chungking, Neikiang, Patung (a dot base with a single Chinese unit there � I have troops headed there to take it) and Kanshien (30 Chinese units surrounded there, about 115k troops with no supply withering on the vine). There are a handful of units scattered around. Most are surrounded. I�m pretty sure Ted has written off China.

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Reinforcements:
SS I-181 � headed to the Aleutians
xAK Toan Maru � STD-B � converting to a TK

The N1K2-J George R&D advanced to September 1944. It�s expected to be operational in September 1943.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/3/2017 6:38:30 PM

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24 May 43

Sub War

Just SE of Cold Bay, the I-177 ate a DC from one of those rotten SCs. Damage wasn't bad at 7-18(13)-0-0 but enough to send her home for repairs.

I think I found the route between Hawaii and the West coast. I had spotted a TF heading to Hawaii and put a sub in its path. The I-36 put a torpedo into an xAK NE of Pearl. She was headed back to Kwajalein to refuel but I diverted her there to see if she could intercept. I have another sub headed there to patrol.

Nine hexes SW of Prince Rupert, the I-29 ran into what I thought was the Mississippi, but it was a couple of DDs. Neither side did anything but waste ammo, but I was surprised because yesterday I saw the Mississippi.

5 Fleet

I decided at the last moment to have the BB fleet bombard the American squatters at Adak, and they did decent damage to them. I'm glad I did. MKB was put in position to plaster Unmak airfield, which they didn't do. 18 Judies. went after a couple of DDs and missed. What a waste. Then 18 Kates went after a BB TF at Dutch Harbor planting a bomb on the Washington killing a 5" turret. Everything else missed and 2 Kates were lost to flak. The rest of the aircraft never launched.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Gasmata was once again the focus of Allied air power. There were 7 different attacks of 21 Japanese fighters vs a total of 18 Corsairs, 10 Kittyhawk IIIs, 50x 4E bombers. Losses were 1 Japanese fighter and 6 Allied fighters. Damage to Gasmata was minimal. Rabaul is now down to 0-11-0 damage. I'll move in more fighters and set up some CAP traps for tomorrow.

One of the CAP traps will be at Shortland Island, where a couple dozen Dauntlesses attack daily unescorted.

SRA
Burma

Nothing to report.

China

I forgot to set the 3 Tank Division to attack the remnants they've been chasing.

Other Stuff

B6N2a R&D advanced to October 1944 (will be operational December 1943).

That's about it.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/5/2017 8:05:16 PM

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Sub War

Well, the I-29 found the Mississippi and put another torpedo into her. That�s torpedo #5 (or 6 maybe). I heard sinking sounds immediately afterward. I�m pretty sure she went down finally. I have no idea how many torpedoes I expended on her. Probably a whole sub�s worth.

My elation was short lived, however. I had the RO-35 hanging out off Perth hoping to catch something. She did, and it was several depth charges and a watery grave. Less than 2 months old. I have another headed down there but she�ll keep moving around in an effort to stay alive and possibly cause some damage.

5 Fleet

Interesting day today. At first, I was a bit miffed, but the more I think about it, I realized it was better strategically. I positioned my carriers so they would be available to strike Dutch Harbor but not Unmak. I forgot that the CAP over Unmak will leak the two hexes to Dutch Harbor. Sheesh.

Anyhoo, I found the US BB TF, composed of at least 6 BBs. They launched 36 Judies (normal range so carrying 500kg bombs � yeah!) and 18 Kates carrying torpedoes. That�s 54 of 140+ bombers. Really? Well, at a cost of 3 Kates and 5 Judies, they put 2 torpedoes into the Pennsylvania, a torpedo into the New Mexico and Indiana and a penetrating bomb into Maryland. The other two (South Dakota and Arizona) each took 2 non-penetrating bombs. Kind of disappointing but better than nothing. Oh yeah, they were escorted by 55 Zeros! What a waste of fighters.

Then, another attack went after a bunch of small TFs at Dutch Harbor. It was composed of 27 Kates escorted by only 14 Zeros. They were received by 14x P-400s and 16x P-40Es. Crap planes, right? I think Ted put the best pilots available in this trash. They shot down 5 Zeros for a loss of 3x P-40s then tore into the Kates, killing 15. No enemy ships were hit. *Sigh*

I know, I need to sweep to kill them off. Lesson learned.

My carriers were south of Unmak/Dutch Harbor and his BBs were west (yes, west) of my carriers. I figured he�d send the BBs after my carriers so I shifted them 4 hexes south for tomorrow.

The 19 Division arrived and began unloading at Adak. They should be completely unloaded in a day or two.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Ted continues to focus on Gasmata and Rabaul. By dividing his air strength between the two (plus small raids against Lunga, Tulagi, north eastern PNG and Shortlands), he is unable to effectively close down any of the major airfields. I don�t really care about the others. They are just targets.

First was a sweep of 14x Kittyhawk IIIs against 23 Japanese fighters at Gasmata. Eight Kittyhawks went down to no Japanese losses. A second sweep of 8 more Kittyhawks resulted in 2 more of them and 2 Tojos going down. Another 4 Kittyhawks were op losses. So far so good, but my plane numbers keep reducing from damage, and low fuel and ammo. Fortunately, no bombers targeted Gasmata.

Rabaul got 4 attacks, totaling 65x 4E and 34x 2E sorties with no fighter escorts against 34 Japanese fighters. Damage to the airfield was surprisingly light (+3 planes destroyed on the ground) and losses were 8 Allied bombers to 3 Japanese fighters shot down, 4 op losses and 3 planes destroyed on the ground. Not bad considering the number of sorties.

Finally, I set up a CAP trap over Shortlands Island. A whopping 5 Japanese fighters showed up for the party against two attacks totaling 25 SBDs. Six DBs were shot down for no Japanese loss.

I expect Ted to take more bases in this area. The longer he spends in this area, the better.

SRA
Burma

Nothing to report.

China

The 3 Tank Division attacked the former Chengtu garrison trashing them some more. For no Japanese losses, the Chinese lost 1846(226) and retreated south. The 15 Tank regiment pursued.

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Oscar IIIa R&D advanced to 9/43. This model is expected to become operational on 7/43.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/5/2017 8:08:07 PM

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Sub War

The Tuna sank the TK Sansho Maru (Type-1 TM � 8150 capacity) a few hexes south of Babeldaob. Fortunately, she was empty.

5 Fleet

The US BB TF is running to the NE of its position yesterday to try and escape. My carriers were a couple hexes out of position to attack them again. They�ll chase them tomorrow to see if they can catch them and put a few more torpedoes into them. I also have several subs in the area trying to intercept. This is great news. His major surface strength is running, leaving me in control of the waters in the area.

The 19 Division completed its debarkation onto Adak. My AV is now 1284 vs. the Allied AV of 502. I will continue to bomb and bombard and will attack the day my BBs return to bombard them.

My carriers attacked a small TF (ASW I think) composed of 2 DDs and an SC. Again, those darn obsolete fighters whittled me down a bit. At a cost of a Zero and 2 Kates, I shot down 2 US fighters�.and blew SC 648 to matchsticks.

Ted sent 9 Bolingbrokes against the ships unloading in Adak harbor. The 2 remaining bombers crashed on the way home. When will they learn�

Adak has >26k supply and the fort level is 5.23.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

I finally upgraded an IJN daitai to the N1K1 George. Once repaired, they�ll head to Rabaul. I�m anxious to see how well they do.

Much Allied bombing today, which is becoming the norm. At Gasmata, his bombers went after the port, sinking the 2 ACMs tending the minefield there. A total of 7 raids against Gasmata using 53x 2E, 60x 4E and 14 fighter sorties. They lost 3x 4E and 2 fighters to no Japanese fighters. Final damage to Gasmata is 38-51-41.

Five Corsairs swept Rabaul losing 3 of their number to 2 Tojos.

The minor islands got small raids doing little to no damage. All in all, a pretty good day.

Rabaul�s damage is down to 0-7-0.

SRA

Ted invaded Wessel Island. I had a small �base� there where I had some Rufes a long, long time ago. I had long since evacuated that little speck of land. He�ll take it tomorrow.

Burma

Nothing to report.

China

The 15 Tank Regiment attacked the rabble from Chengtu (2 Chinese Corps and 1 BF) driving 2 of them into the base to the south. One remained to be attacked tomorrow. Losses were 0 for the Japanese to 1009(97) Chinese. The Chinese had 0 AV and no disruptions from the attack which tells me whatever is left is disrupted.

Other Stuff

Reinforcements:
RO-36 � 11k endurance sub � headed to 2 Fleet stationed at Singapore.
LSD Nigitsu Maru � will stay in the Home Islands for the time being.

I�ve been using more supply than normal recently in increasing my engines and some airframes. Three of my Ha-45 factories completed their expansion so I increased my two Ha-33 factories by 60 each. Here�s my current operational factory info:

Factory (# factories) Total � In pool
Ha-32 (3) 270 - 616
Ha-33 (2) 420 - 548
Ha-34 (1) 360 - 347
Ha-35 (4) 540 - 508
Ha-45 (6) 660 - 545
Ha-60 (0) 0 - 476

My current engine expansion will be complete by the end of July 43.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/6/2017 8:16:12 PM

Mike Solli

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Sub War

The US BB TF got clean away. Either they got out of Glen range or they all sank. I suspect the former.

The I-174 had been on patrol along the SE corner of Australia. It used to be a fertile hunting ground but hasn�t been for quite some time. She was running low on fuel so she headed back to the barn. She was heading up the Australian coast past Brisbane and found the LST-22. A couple torpedoes later, down went the LST.

I have midget (horizontally challenged?) subs scattered around my bases to try and cause havoc when the Allies come to visit. I had a couple at Gasmata and sent one of them to Lae. She never made it. A hex from Lae, 4 US DDs found her and put her under for good. It was worth a try.

5 Fleet

As I said above, the US BBs vanished. I have several Glen subs in the area, so I�m confident that I�ll spot them if they return. I have MKB heading back toward Unmak to sweep the area in force. I have all of my A6M5s (some 70 or so) and about half of my A6M3as (about 35 or so) tasked with sweeping those damn fighters there. I set that many because the smaller carriers have rarely participated in any of the recent combat up here. The one critical thing about the P-40E and P-400 is that both have awful maneuverability at high levels. My fighters will be coming in at 20-30k feet. I hope to kill off the fighter population here. If so, the next day will see MKB do a bombing run on Unmak�s airfield to kill off some of the transport planes that are flying supply into Adak. Tomorrow, my DBs will fly ASW and my TBs will fly ASW and search. Let�s see how this goes.

There has been a US 2 DD TF hanging out a couple of hexes to the SW of Unmak. My carriers are constantly launching against it. They�re a pain in the butt. I�m sending 4x Fubukis to dispatch them tonight.

Adak has >32k supply and the forts are up to 5.25.

4 Fleet

I mentioned earlier that I found the route between Pearl and the US West coast. I have a Glen sub stationed on that route and today saw 3(!) convoys surrounding the sub. One is to the SE and heading away. It appears to possibly be an ASW TF. The other two are square on the hex row and both are headed directly toward the sub. The one to the NE has an ARD in it (hopefully its accurate intel). I would love to sink one of them. It�s headed toward Pearl. The other is to the SW and headed away from Pearl. It�s probably empty but it has xAPs and AKs. I�ll take those too. I�m not picky. I�m trying to scrounge more subs to send to this area.

SE Fleet

Ted avoided Gasmata and Rabaul today. I think he rested his bomber crews. Nothing exciting happened here. My engineers didn�t rest though. They repaired damage.

SRA

Wessel Island (dot hex off the northern coast of Australia south of Merauke) fell to the Allies. I had no troops there. No effect on anything at all.

I have 2x bombardment TFs hanging around north of Darwin to pay that base a visit. Each is composed of 2x BB, 2x CA & 4x DD. The plan was to send them in on consecutive nights. The goal is that the first would damage a bunch of planes and the second would destroy a bunch of damaged planes. The first hit today. I knew there was a TF of small ships. I suspected they were PT boats. I was wrong. They were MGBs, which are useless against surface ships and there were 12 of them. The bombardment TF ran into them first, destroying 8 for no damage to my ships. The combat took quite a while. I figured the bombardment wouldn�t happen because of the op point expenditure. It did happen and it wasn�t too bad either. I caused moderate damage to the airfield (yay!), a little port damage and damaged the following:

10x Beaufighter VIII
10x various Catalinas
11x Kittyhawk IA

It destroyed a couple of planes too. Before departing, the bombardment TF killed off the 4 remaining MGBs.

The next bombardment TF will hit tomorrow. Hopefully, with no little gnats to kill off first, they�ll kill a bunch of the planes on the ground.

Burma

Nothing to report.

China

The 15 Tank Regiment attacked the remnants of a Chinese Corps killing 232(28) for no loss. It�s interesting that the 3 Tank Division (from the NW) and the 13 Army (from the NE) also arrived in the hex and are still marching toward the base just to the south, even with the Chinese Corps in the hex. I�m letting the 13 Army continue its march southward and will attack the Chinese dregs with the two tank formations.

Other Stuff

A6M5c R&D advanced to 11/43. It is expected to become operational in 7/43. Finally a carrier fighter with armor. Not sure how much good it�ll do though.

My A7M2 R&D factories are now up to 0(30), 0(30), 0(30), 0(30), 1(29)! Woo Hoo!!!

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/7/2017 5:13:37 PM

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Lots of action today. My subs were mainly targets.

The first action almost made me choke. Remember the I-174, who sank an LST yesterday? Well, she was still heading up the eastern coast of Australia to refuel. She ran into a TF composed of 4 CA, 4 Cl, 4 DD and the Enterprise! She fired four torpedoes and��missed. *Sigh* Then she paid the ultimate price.

Off Lae, the RO-108 ate a DC and took heavy damage: 27-70(41)-7-0. She�s going to try and limp home.

Remember the I-19, NE of Pearl Harbor and in the middle of lots of targets? Well, she was the target of a KV, took 2 DCs and will also try to limp home: 19-49(28)-2(2)-0.

My subs suck.

5 Fleet

There was a little more to cheer about here. The weather must have been good because MKBs fighters actually did their sweep of Unmak Island. There were multiple sweeps, each of 1 daitai. At a total cost of 1x A6M3a shot down (+3 more written off, 1 KIA, 1 WIA), they shot down 8 of 14 P-40Es (+1 op loss) and 3 of 6 P0400s. Nice. Tomorrow, I�m sending in the bombers to hit the airfield and hopefully kill/damage a few transports and kill some of those damaged fighters.

Junyo fighter group was the lucky winner today. They had the single plane shot down but 3 of their pilots gained elite status! Banzai!

If I can destroy the remaining fighters (I'm sweeping again) and damage the airfield tomorrow, I may try to send my BBs (a couple days out) to Dutch Harbor to clean up on all the chewy defenseless ships there. Then on to destroying those US troops on a sightseeing tour of Adak.

My 4x Fubukis found the Allied DD TF, consisting of just the Cushing. After much gunfire and torpedo launching, sometimes as close as 2000 yards, not one hit on either side. Sheesh. The DDs will refuel from the replenishment TF and try again.

Adak has >32k supply and the forts are up to 5.27.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Rabaul was the target today. There were 2 sweeps and multiple bombing runs with lots of planes. Here�s final tally:

108 Japanese fighters (8 shot down & 1 destroyed on the ground) vs:

32 fighters (3 shot down +2 op losses)
80x 4E bombers (7 shot down +7 op losses)
25x 2E bombers (20 shot down!)

In addition, 2 ACMs were sunk in port. Remember, Rabaul had no damage at the start of this turn. It�s now at 10-17-29.

Gasmata wasn�t touched. Its damage decreased to 38-51-15.

I wonder where Enterprise is headed? I also wonder what happened to the other 2 CVs that were with her during the Munda invasion?

SRA

My second bombardment TF never steamed to Darwin to visit. Don�t know why. I�ll try again tonight.

Burma

Ted got a little frisky today and sent 13x 4E bombers to hit the refinery at Rangoon. Three were shot down and they reduced the refinery by 7. I�ll take that!

China

The 15 Tank Regiment destroyed the remains of a Chinese Corps. The rest of the 13 Army (4 divisions & artillery) arrived at Neikiang and will attack tomorrow. It�s garrisoned by 3 units: a Chinse corps and BF both demolished and the garrison, 71 Chinese Corps, strength unknown. Neikiang has resources and LI.

Other Stuff

Reinforcement: AG Arasaki

I got confirmation of a US sub sinking back on 3/18/43.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/8/2017 12:36:06 AM

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28 May 43

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Lots of action today. My subs were mainly targets.

The first action almost made me choke. Remember the I-174, who sank an LST yesterday? Well, she was still heading up the eastern coast of Australia to refuel. She ran into a TF composed of 4 CA, 4 Cl, 4 DD and the Enterprise! She fired four torpedoes and��missed. *Sigh* Then she paid the ultimate price.

Off Lae, the RO-108 ate a DC and took heavy damage: 27-70(41)-7-0. She�s going to try and limp home.

Remember the I-19, NE of Pearl Harbor and in the middle of lots of targets? Well, she was the target of a KV, took 2 DCs and will also try to limp home: 19-49(28)-2(2)-0.

My subs suck.

No, the USN just got their first ASW upgrade ... they get another one in '44 sometime ... all under the hood, but the impact is pretty easily seen.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/8/2017 9:40:15 AM

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Most of the American DDs get the same type of Depth Charges. However, there are a few classes that get another DC version which is more accurate....and deadly!

Maybe your opponent is not as OCD as you are to know that.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/8/2017 2:17:27 PM

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At this point your subs will rarely have lone wolf success. You need to stage them in groups that wear out the ASW and hope you have one left to take advantage of it.

Or use them as pickets/searchers.

Or use them to run supplies.

Here is a tactic I used to good success against Jocke. Say the Allies have a couple of big air bases providing CAP protection on the front lines. I manually shut down the search arcs to exclude those areas, and instead run three glen equipped subs behind the air bastions. Using their glens to search, I then hope the get a strong enough DL for the Betties/Nells to strike deep, into un-escorted convoy ships well behind the strong forward air bases.

I got burned once when I got sigint and the bomberes sortied off the sigint, but that is war.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/11/2017 10:19:14 PM

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Here is a tactic I used to good success against Jocke. Say the Allies have a couple of big air bases providing CAP protection on the front lines. I manually shut down the search arcs to exclude those areas, and instead run three glen equipped subs behind the air bastions. Using their glens to search, I then hope the get a strong enough DL for the Betties/Nells to strike deep, into un-escorted convoy ships well behind the strong forward air bases.

Now that is clever! I need to try that! Thanks!

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/11/2017 11:04:49 PM

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Sub War

Nothing to report.

5 Fleet

A couple of sweeps of Unmak cleared out the fighters killing 4 at a cost of 2 Zeros. Then 60 DBs and 60 TBs went after the airfield. No losses here but they only damaged 11 planes and caused light damage to the airfield.

It's interesting that my Sally sentai received no AAA when they bombed the US troops at Adak. I don't believe he there is no supply there, because during each day's artillery bombardment, I track the starting and ending AV of each of the 4 units as well as the overall US and Japanese AV. The US AV is constantly decreasing by 5-10 per day with occasional increases of about that much. Maybe the transports are not flying every day? Usually, the US units will increase their AV a bit each day before the bombardment. Here's an example of how I track it. I do it during the artillery bombardment:

27 May
Jp AV 1284
US AC 499
58 Sep IB 95-81 (start-finish)
41 ID 196-193
151 EN 41-32
153 Sep IB 98-91

28 May
Jp AV 1280
US AC 495
58 Sep IB 94-82
41 ID 221-207
151 EN 38-29
153 Sep IB 106-99

29 May
Jp AV 1282
US AC 487
58 Sep IB 93-87
41 ID 222-204
151 EN 37-26
153 Sep IB 99-90

It might all be just FOW. Anyway, I'm going to attack probably within a week.

Adak currently has >31k supply and the fort is up to 5.29.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Not a bad day overall. Rabaul was the focus again allowing Gasmata to repair more damage. Overall, I lost 4 fighters (+3 op losses) to 4 enemy fighters and 9x 4E bombers (+6 op losses). Finally, I'm starting to down some bombers. The enemy 2E bombers stayed away because they can no longer survive in that environment. Final base damage:

Gasmata 38-37-0
Rabaul 13-25-13

Not too bad. I sent another Zero chutai to reinforce Rabaul but the fighter units that are there have a lot of damaged aircraft. Many should repair in 1 day, but I'm not sure exactly when that damage is repaired during the turn. Hopefully, it's before air combat.

On a bad note, the 2 Marine Division and a combat engineer regiment landed at Lunga. I don't have much there. There is a naval guard unit, a naval guard company, an engineer battalion and a small AS unit. They will be pushed to the other end of Guadalcanal (if they survive at all).

SRA

I bombarded Darwin again, with a TF composed of 2 BB, 2CA, 1CL (and 4 DD escort). They killed a few planes, damaged a couple dozen more and did moderate damage to the airfield and port. Nothing to write home about.

Burma

Nothing to report.

China

I attacked Neikiang (the base to the west of Chungking) in an 8:1 deliberate assault. Losses were pretty nice with 1607(7) Japanese to 7321(498) Chinese. The remnants withdrew toward Chungking. The infrastructure was badly damaged:

Manpower 1(1)
Resources 7(33)
LI 4(16)

No repairs will be made.

The Chinese are now down to 3 bases. In addition to Chungking with ~620k troops, there is a surrounded base with ~110k troops slowly starving and a dot hex with on unit in it. I have a division there to take it. There are also a few units scattered around dying on the vine.

I'm bombing Chungking daily and see no flak. That's interesting.

Other Stuff

Nothing exciting to report.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/12/2017 12:07:25 AM

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He may have set all his divisions to rest. IIRC they won't fire AA when in rest/training mode.

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Interesting. Never realized that but it makes sense.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/12/2017 2:04:50 PM

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Multiple waves of bombers can deplete the ammo from the AA units in question...they fire till they have no more, and or sometimes the supply will go to replenishing other units first, especially if it is being flown in as the transports usually deliver to a unit first.

I suspect the admin levels of leadership might play a part on who gets resupplied first among other variables.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/12/2017 5:10:13 PM

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It's also possible that they just have no AA guns.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/12/2017 8:48:40 PM

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Chungking in stock has lots of the 3" guns in the ENG units.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/13/2017 3:24:49 AM

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Chungking in stock has lots of the 3" guns in the ENG units.

But those can move...

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/13/2017 9:17:52 AM

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We'll find out soon enough, gents. Believe me, I've been thinking all those same thoughts.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/13/2017 9:22:21 AM

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30 May 43

Sub War

I was lazy today and it cost me a badly damaged sub.

As I said earlier, I found the sea route between Pearl and the US West coast. The I-23 was heading to patrol that SLOC but transited through the Hawaiian Islands to get there, skirting around Pearl Harbor. The DD Benham found her 2 hexes NE of Pearl and hit her with a DC. Apparently the damage wasn�t severe enough to send her home so she continued on course and was found again by several KVs hitting her again. Now, she�s headed home with the following damage: 41-60(21)-10(6)-0.

5 Fleet

A Zero sweep of Unmak found a single P-400 which was promptly shot down. I had set MKBs bombers to naval attack and a secondary airfield attack at Unmak. Eighteen Vals and 33 Kates went after the airfield killing a Catalina while damaging about half a dozen planes (including a B-17E). Looks like the airfield damage there is ~17%. Then, 2 Kates (sheesh), 18 Vals and 13 Judies went after shipping in the area sinking an AVP and badly damaging an xAK and PC. Not really worth the effort.

Finally, a dozen Judies found and sank an xAK just off Cold harbor. Those 500kg bombs really do a number on soft skinned ships. I lost 2 Kates and a Val (1 KIA) overall to op losses.

Tomorrow, I�ll send 2 Zero daitai to sweep Unmak again and send the bombers on port attack. Then I�ll scoot to the SW to refuel and make sure nothing is coming after MKB. I may hang around long enough for the BBs to visit Dutch Harbor for a bombardment. They could go far to clean up all the shipping there. Then, Adak will be in their cross-hair.

Adak still has >31k supply and the fort level is up to 5.31.

Amchitka�s airfield is just a couple of days away from reaching level 4. The Sally sentai stationed there is still using only 2x 250kg bombs per plane. Can�t wait to double that!

4 Fleet

I have a SNLF headed toward Baker and Canton Islands. I have learned that Baker is unguarded, but there are an unknown number and type of troops at Canton. I had the CA Ashigara bombard Canton today. I suspect that was a surprise to Ted. The ship was undetected the whole time. The invasion fleet is still undetected. The bombardment did light damage to the airfield and port disabling about 18 non-combat squads and killing a combat squad. There was no CD fire. That�s interesting. I expected a Marine defense battalion to be there. The Ashigara will rejoin the invasion fleet and I am going to send them in. It may be a disaster but we�ll see. At the very least, it may cause Ted to react to me for a change.

SE Fleet

The 2E bombers are satisfied with hitting the remnants of the former Japanese Madang garrison (a construction battalion and an AS unit). Rabaul was hit by a total of 47x 4E sorties and 8 Corsairs. They were opposed by 39 Japanese fighters. Losses and damage were light. Each side lost 1 fighter and 2x B-17s were shot down. Gasmata was untouched. Here�s the current damage:

Rabaul: 17-32-7
Gasmata: 38-7-0

Tulagi was hit by a small force of 10x B24s doing light damage (repaired) and shooting down a Zero.

At Lunga, a surprising event occurred. The 2 Marine Division and a combat engineer regiment did a deliberate assault against a Naval Guard unit, a Naval Guard company, and an engineer battalion and a small AS unit. The attack went in at 1:2(!) reducing the fort from 5 to 4. Japanese losses were 113(4) and US losses were 119(0). They apparently took a decent number of disablements, particularly in engineers. I still have over half of my infantry in good shape. I doubt I survive another attack, but I didn�t expect to survive this attack!

I had the 11 Air Fleet HQ in Rabaul. I used air transports to pull all I could to Truk but couldn�t get some motorized support and torpedoes out by air. I snuck an xAK-t in and got the rest out in 1 day. Banzai!

SRA
Burma

Nothing exciting to report. I sweep Adak each day usually finding a Hurricane or 2. Sometimes I shoot one down, for practice. My bombers (5x sentai) are all standing down and have been replenished with planes and pilots. I�m thinking about sending them against Cox�s Bazaar�s airfield, for fun. I�ll wait for a relatively good forecast which may not be awhile considering it�s monsoon season.

China

Maneuvering to surround Chungking. I have several armies working their way to Chungking but some are a week or more away. We�re getting there.

I�m working on upgrading all the infantry divisions that can upgrade to the 43 infantry squads. Yeah, they�re not much better but I�ll take anything I can get.

Other Stuff

Reinforcements:
E Iki � Etorofu class � ASW/convoy escort
SC Ch-42 � ASW
12 Field AF Construction Battalion � Northern Army
21 Field AF Construction Battalion � Northern Army
13 Field AF Construction Battalion � 2 Area Army
16 Field AF Construction Battalion � 2 Area Army
18 Field AF Construction Battalion � 2 Area Army
19 Field AF Construction Battalion � 2 Area Army
22 Field AF Construction Battalion � 14 Army
24 Field AF Construction Battalion � 14 Army
23 Field AF Construction Battalion � Southern Army
29 Field AF Construction Battalion � 32 Army
67 JAAF AF Battalion � Kwantung Army
75 JAAF AF Battalion � Southern Army
78 JAAF AF Battalion � Southern Army
95 JAAF AF Battalion � China Expeditionary Army

The Ki-100-II Tony R&D advanced to December 1943 (expected July 1943).

The D4Y3 Judy R&D advanced to June 1944 (expected November 1943).

My one operational Tony unit has just about finished repairing its brand spanking new planes. Soon, they�ll be tested against the Allies down in SE Fleet area. I�m just a few days away from a second unit of them. Can�t wait!

The Oscar is just about finished with front line service in both SE Fleet and Burma. They�re too vulnerable. They will continue to be in service in China, SRA and 5 Fleet, although I plan on upgrading the Oscar sentai stationed at Adak with the Tojo IIa soon. I have air superiority up there, but once Ted decides to contest with real fighters, I�ll need the Tojo.

The SS Pickerel was confirmed sunk on 19 Mar 43. Ok, that�s 1 less than the gazillion subs to worry about.

I have 3 CVs that I accelerate about 2 days in 3. I expect them to become operational around mid-September 1943. That�ll add almost 200 to KBs air strength. They come with full air units too, which is a plus. I believe the air crews are pretty well trained. When they arrive, I think I�ll be able to accelerate the other 3 CVs (not counting Taiho & Shinano which are both stopped) constantly and maybe a few DDs too. This is just a rough estimate, but I hope to get the last 3 CVs by spring 1944.

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Gilbert - What do you have here for troops?? IMO from playing both sides, "Tabby" (Tabiteuea) is the key to the Gilberts and later to the Marshalls due to it potential base size.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/14/2017 8:12:01 PM

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I�ll wait for a relatively good forecast which may not be awhile considering it�s monsoon season.

Yeah, through Oct 15th (or is that Nov 15th).

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The Oscar is just about finished with front line service in both SE Fleet and Burma.

I get what you are saying, but remember they have an excellent range and good maneuverability. They therefore make for good ablative armor for your bomber groups. One or maybe two in each area could come in handy.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/16/2017 2:45:23 AM

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Ablative armor. Yeah, good description.

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I have never been a fan of the concept: ablative armor. My issue is that I am building up the exp pool of the allied fighter pilots. So, there are a few ... very few ... occasions when this tactic is needed: the mission goal exceeds the cost (attacking high value shipping targets), but otherwise ... consider carefully before using it ...

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I have never been a fan of the concept: ablative armor. My issue is that I am building up the exp pool of the allied fighter pilots. So, there are a few ... very few ... occasions when this tactic is needed: the mission goal exceeds the cost (attacking high value shipping targets), but otherwise ... consider carefully before using it ...

+1.

The Oscar IIIa (range) and the Oscar IV (cl cannons) are valuable planes for the entire war and have a role to play other than ablative armor.

Their role changes. They are cheap in supplies that there is already factories established and usually pretty decent pools. For example they provide the ability to sting the Allies in CAP traps over islands, really anywhere SR 1 is valuable, and are quite good at whittling down a deathstar of planes thru cap traps. I can think of many more uses.

Japan has to use the proper tool for the job, and yes other planes are better but the Oscar does have a role to play for quite a long time. Make the most of them, and don't simply throw them away.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 12/21/2017 1:16:01 AM

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Gilbert - What do you have here for troops?? IMO from playing both sides, "Tabby" (Tabiteuea) is the key to the Gilberts and later to the Marshalls due to it potential base size.

There's not much there. Also, Tabiteuea has no Allied troops there. Ted is basically ignoring the CentPac.

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I agree with you guys that every type of equipment has a place in the Japanese arsenal. Ablative armor means lots of pilot losses. I'm pulling the Oscar IIa out because it's no longer viable for the most part. The IIIa will be out in July. We'll see what it can do.

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