Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Dysta

I'd say it's like using a Outlook/Google Calendar. You can add, move, edit or merge some tasks to manage the window of opportunity.

Add also add "estimated time of next task -task name-" on the map info to let player see the upcoming plan(-s). As well as highlighting enemy targets with timer for when will the strike happens.

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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ORIGINAL: JPFisher55

The only additions to the strike planner that I would like is to tell the planes when and where to refuel and what altitudes to use for each leg of the strike.

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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ORIGINAL: tango4

I am not sure I am competent enough to say what a perfect mission planner would be.
But what I could say is what I miss the most that could be part of an advanced planner version 1.
As I said in my previous post I would really like to be able to specify the waypoints prior to mission start, and mission profile. So at least when the aircraft get airborne, I know what route they will fly, and at what altitudes. If possible as mentioned by someone else, being able to specify time on some waypoints would be awesome. Today, when launching a big strike, each time a group gets airborne, you have to hit pause, catch the group's icon on the map and edit the whole plan. I really feel this is cumbersome and very time consuming.
At least that would allow some of the work to be made prior to mission lauch, which could alleviate the workload while running the mission.
And even better, sharing a common waypoint between mission would be awesome to create a sort of "rally point" to synchronize missions.
I am really glad this is still worked on and will continue buying dlcs (even if I do not actually play them for those very reasons) because I really feel this dev team deserves support.

Thanks for asking Ragnar !

Best regards.

Charles MOULIN

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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ORIGINAL: emsoy

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ORIGINAL: tango4

I am not sure I am competent enough to say what a perfect mission planner would be.
But what I could say is what I miss the most that could be part of an advanced planner version 1.
As I said in my previous post I would really like to be able to specify the waypoints prior to mission start, and mission profile. So at least when the aircraft get airborne, I know what route they will fly, and at what altitudes. If possible as mentioned by someone else, being able to specify time on some waypoints would be awesome. Today, when launching a big strike, each time a group gets airborne, you have to hit pause, catch the group's icon on the map and edit the whole plan. I really feel this is cumbersome and very time consuming.
At least that would allow some of the work to be made prior to mission lauch, which could alleviate the workload while running the mission.
And even better, sharing a common waypoint between mission would be awesome to create a sort of "rally point" to synchronize missions.
I am really glad this is still worked on and will continue buying dlcs (even if I do not actually play them for those very reasons) because I really feel this dev team deserves support.

Thanks for asking Ragnar !

Best regards.

Charles MOULIN

I see, thanks

- Display a list of waypoints for each flight
- Ability to move waypoints
- Set speed and altitude
- Set times
- Set Rally points (aka Push Points)

Would this solve all your problems?

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ORIGINAL: thewood1

"waypoints early or late"

These kinds of issues are way underestimated. A number of things can happen to throw the timing off. How should those be handled?

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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ORIGINAL: HaughtKarl

Look at the juicy mission planner from Tornado, a PC sim that came out in 1993!

http://www.moodurian.com/tornado/home.html?http://www.moodurian.com/tornado/tor/MissionPlanner.html&content

Copy and paste the code from that into CMANO; it should be about a 15 minute job tops.

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In all seriousness, if you only did one thing I hope it would be giving the player to plot waypoints prior to air assets taking off.

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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ORIGINAL: Airborne Rifles

Well, if the player decides to plot their own waypoints, then the achievement of a ToT is completely on them and their own planning, as it should be. The suggestion I'm making is about weapons for which the AI already automatically plots an off-axis attack without player input other than to assign the salvo to a target.

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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ORIGINAL: tango4

I guess it would solve the biggest things holding me (and I insist on the "me" as other people might have other views on this).
I understand that getting the equivalent of a real life planner would probably require as much dev time as cmano itself... So my point of view is that I would try to get a first version released with the most needed features, which are not necessarily the most complex to develop. Of course, the drawback of such an approach is that at a later point you might realise that you want to add feature x or y and that the way you started coding the planner in a simple version would not allow that and would require a complete redevelopement.
Two caveats to what I requested: I am not experienced in air to air refueling in cmano and it might be worth giving it some thought.
And when dealing with fast moving targets it might be difficult to implement a "perfect" tool (but I guess this is the same in real life).
Now in the list I would add a feature: ability to use pre planned attack profiles (another time saver).
Let me explain what I have in mind (this is a quick and dirty explanation, especially given that I am not home right now and don't have access to my computer).
Imagine I want to plan a strike of a static target.
-First I would select the target.
-Then I select participating aircraft (so at this point the planner knows the performance of the aircraft: for example if my target is 500Nm from the airbase and my aircraft radius with their current load out is 400Nm it will be able to give me a warning at a later point in planning).
-Now I would select the profile (of course the default profile for the loadout would be preselected). But the idea would be to use Hi Lo Hi or Lo Hi Lo on a list so that it generates initial altitudes and speeds on the waypoints consistent with that.
-Then you click "generate" and it creates a flight plan that you can visualize with preset altitudes and speeds consistent with the profile you entered.
-Next you would graphically edit the flight plan, repositioning and adding waypoints.
-Then you would look at TOT or things like this.
-In the list of waypoints, one of them could be identified as the "push" waypoint and could be shared with other missions.

I know I forgot lots of things to make it work and that my above list does not take into account averyrhing that is already part of the current mission editor that is already great. My intent was just to try and give you a feel of what I think would be a great help in most scenarii.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.

Charles.

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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I see, thanks

- Display a list of waypoints for each flight
- Ability to move waypoints
- Set speed and altitude
- Set times
- Set Rally points (aka Push Points)

Would this solve all your problems?

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- Time-on-target for missile strikes.