Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

Japan didn't unconditionally surrender, they got to keep the Emperor, who should have been tried as a war criminal, so their ending was difference then Germany's unconditional surrender. So having a different mindset is in the eye of the beholder.

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

Japan didn't unconditionally surrender, they got to keep the Emperor, who should have been tried as a war criminal, so their ending was difference then Germany's unconditional surrender. So having a different mindset is in the eye of the beholder.

The Allies allowed the Emperor to remain, there was no negotiation over that. The Emperor submitted with no guarantees about his future that I am aware of.

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ORIGINAL: Simonsez
Canoe, if this is a feint (Singapore), why are your units in move mode in the screen shot? If you don't intend to jump the shark here, wouldn't it be more prudent to have the units in combat mode, lest something unwanted happens?

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John must have had such high hopes for his raid into the IO - and just like his hopes in China and Korea, they've come crashing down around his ears.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Probably not pretty?

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Communique from John III, graduate of the Keith Olbermann School of Diplomacy:

You are correct that the VP’s are moving but not that fast. You had a chance to bag a BUNCH of VP with that botched CV attack. Appreciated all those Fighters on CAP and not available to fly as escorts. I’ve never been a VP person. You know that but if this instance it makes sense to me. Thought we’d hit 2-1 about now but have managed to slightly move it back. We have bets from Forum players as to when that number is reached.

Looks like you get to experience what every Japanese player does in assaulting Singapore. Might be pretty interesting to watch.

Botched?

He thought we'd hit 2:1 about now? He told me ten days ago that he'd put his money on May 10.

I'm still not sure about Singers, but his thoughts on the matter are appreciated.

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ORIGINAL: Powloon

Just wondered if you have any assault shipping in the Malaya area? You have many units already prepped at 100% why not try an amphibious invasion based out of Johre Bahru under heavy CAP rather than a crossing? Obviously Japanese players avoid this in 42 due to the big CD unit there but John is unlikely to have anything on that scale there.

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ORIGINAL: IJV

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Probably not pretty?

Probably not, but I suppose the open question is whether it would matter.

J3 is probably about right in saying that you're experiencing what the Japanese do in attacking Singapore - your force looks about the size of the average Japanese force c. 1942; the defending force, by your estimate, is about the size of the average Allied force c.1942; the base control geography is about the same, just inverted, and the relative firepower difference is probably a bit better than in the roles-reversed scenario. So, think about how the Singapore assaults tend to go from the Japanese perspective:

- There's an initial strait crossing whiff into strong fortifications that causes a lot of disablements, slows things down for several days to a week, but causes little lasting damage because the attacking units start essentially intact, with few disablements, so damage is incurred as mostly disablement rather than destruction;

- After that period of rest, the force is mostly back to where it started, bar maybe a couple of bits that have to toddle off to have a nap somewhere quiet; between high experience and, sometimes, splitting units, disabled devices recover quickly;

- Attacks can then occur; they can sometimes be awkward but it's easy enough to move units in and out, and there's no particular need to attack with less than decently healthy units;

- Defenders can't meaningfully contest the air, because other bases are miles away, and can support by sea up to a point but only at risk of unpleasant accidents;

- End result - base falls in 2-4 weeks, attacking force is a bit threadbare about the edges but essentially fine with little long-term damage.

In this scenario I'd probably be inclined, presuming your attacking force has limited disablements and that it'll take a couple of weeks to get the reinforcements into position, to get the crossing over and done with:

- The defending force is probably a couple of divisions at most ie not so much of a force that the combat system starts to go all weird - likely lots of base/support troops and not overly much combat power as the number of guns/vehicles you've posted hasn't suggested anything too frightening;

- Urban terrain works both ways - yes it's painful to hit, but once you're there you're unlikely to be removed, and of course you have malaria on the one side but not the other (unless Johore is significantly built out?);

- Ultimately, if you cross now, you probably won't be significantly worse off than you would have been by the time the reinforcing force arrives, with the extra bonuses that you won't need to fret about further reinforcements and that the additional force wil be able to just waltz in without any fuss.

Or I could be completely wrong and you'll get hopelessly beaten up. Only one way to find out...

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Right.

I've had some miserable experiences hitting atolls with six forts, so the thought of Singers with nine is pretty frightening.

Is Singers also Light Urban terrain (I can't tell from my map, because mouseover info is concealed by unit info at the base.