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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/23/2018 11:41:26 PM   
Dysta


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Status: offline 		Fine. Trade war is in armistice, doesn't mean hot war will get cooler:

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/pentagon-blocks-china-joining-naval-exercise/

NOTE: Armistice no more, Trump has backstabbed China as tariffs are initiated.

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US diplomats in China was "under attack". Unfortunately, only jokes on Ars comment section are upvoted. See the article and find out why:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/sounds-pressure-brain-injury-case-of-us-govt-employee-in-china-raises-alert/

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 4:06:20 AM   
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http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rngs/CHINA-SOUTHCHINASEA-BUILDING/010070760H9/index.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 8:29:27 AM   
Hongjian

 

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Status: offline 		Henri K on the recent news that CASIC is working on a stealth cruise missile.

http://www.eastpendulum.com/la-chine-developpe-un-nouveau-missile-de-croisiere-furtif

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China is in the process of developing a new stealth cruise missile, at least that is what an article published in March on the site of CASIC Haiying Electromechanical Technology Academy, one of the main missile manufacturers of the country .

According to the text - which seems to have been removed recently by the Chinese manufacturer - new composite "sandwich" composite materials, created by an engineer called GONG Yuan Xun (宫 元勋) and his team, are used "very largely "in a certain project that has a high requirement in stealth, and that takes into consideration the" structural stealth "from the beginning of the design, in other words the geometrical / passive stealth.

The team had major difficulties in reconciling the mass, the thickness (of the hull?) And the need for broadband absorption. The obstacles that were eventually overcome in collaboration with the subcontracting factories to improve the training processes, and with the own laboratories of CASIC Institute No. 306.

The article also talks about two other competing institutions in another project for a stealth component, but no link can be established between the two projects mentioned here.


In any case, the Chinese military watcher community is eagerly rumoring about an upcoming Chinese version of the LRASM.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 9:18:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Denuclearization and renuclearization combined in a month, now it's USA's turn: House repels democratics to cancel small-nuke proposal. The 50kT range of low-yield nukes will be fielded as Republicans please, in case of the "limited nuclear war" threats:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2018/05/23/house-rejects-limit-on-new-nuclear-warhead/

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Flight route M503's first enemy: Y-8. Taiwan speculated it as ELINT aircraft (GX4) for spying Han Kwang military drill. Meanwhile, China shows zero tolerance to the rogue state as the spokesman said such flying is truly a warning to Taiwan:

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3439147

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 11:15:31 AM   
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This article contends that Chinese incursion into Taiwan's airspace is a fait accompli. Not so sure. But the piece does mention Taiwan's use of passive radar. The tactical situation makes for an interesting scenario/sandbox. The question is if and when the J20s are detected/intercepted do they leave Taiwan's airspace immediately or not?

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 11:47:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

The tactical situation makes for an interesting scenario/sandbox. The question is if and when the J20s are detected/intercepted do they leave Taiwan's airspace immediately or not?

I think it's quoted by the Taiwan news that J-20 participated SCS training, and rebuked as China scaring Taiwan and nothing else. I found no actual news about J-20 joining the aerial circuling around Taiwan with other aircrafts.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 11:52:53 AM   
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Picture updated. Double launch is imminent.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 12:47:25 PM   
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I found no actual news about J-20 joining the aerial circuling around Taiwan with other aircrafts.


We all know how patient China is in there matters. If/when Taiwan intercepts a J20 in its airspace they might keep quiet the first time or two, but not for long after that.

Kevin

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 12:55:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

We all know how patient China is in there matters. If/when Taiwan intercepts a J20 in its airspace they might keep quite the first time or two, but not for long after that.

Kevin

I'd be more sincerely concerned to China if J-20 has the need to joining the fight, after thousands of ballistic missile barrage and still can't waste all the airfields. It will be more logical to use as A2AD asset if Japan/US intervenes.

Let's hope Taiwan will learn anything from it before war happened.

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Speaking of learning. PLAN's Liaoning conducted a night-time take off and landing exercises, as announced they have completed all the carrier operating tests:

https://www.twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/999625179452948480 (video)

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/24/2018 1:34:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, but I think the article is talking about operations short of all out war i.e. using incursion into Taiwan's airspace to toy with the country's sovereignty. If, as the article states, this is "likely" then its a fairly serious development and something to keep an eye on.

Kevin

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/25/2018 6:25:45 PM   
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most likely Kh-59MK2


whole video :
https://youtu.be/EeeTJbd9w6M?t=324

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/26/2018 12:48:26 AM   
Hongjian

 

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/26/2018 10:04:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I add the post of colleague Tripod, here is more photos of Kh-59MK2 and its specifications:
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3213127.html

Pay attention on stealth form and several guide systems: satellite-aided (GPS/GLONASS) inertial and optoelectronic for terminal guidance

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/26/2018 10:23:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pr. 11711 (Ivan Gren-class landing ship) "Petr Morgunov" launched 25 May 2018 in Kaliningrad.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3213798.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/26/2018 12:19:36 PM   
Filitch


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Status: offline 		CNBC about S-500 test.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/24/russia-quietly-conducted-the-worlds-longest-surface-to-air-missile-test.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/27/2018 10:04:17 AM   
Hongjian

 

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/27/2018 12:35:55 PM   
Hongjian

 

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Status: offline 		5th Type 071 amphibious assault landing dock has received its pennant number. Commissioning likely soon.

Wikipedia states that the name will be 龙虎山/Longhu Shan/Longhu Mountain. But the pennant number it cites is wrong; not 978 but evidently 980.


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/29/2018 1:19:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		This news is a reminder of nuclear weapon research will always reign on, as long as we're living in atomic age. The comment sections has horrible amount of pro-armageddon talks because they only compare China with other nuke-armed countries by the quantity, yet it's very certain, all kinds of nuke war will only escalate into world-ending catastrophe regardless the numbers, and this is what MAD meant:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2147304/china-steps-pace-new-nuclear-arms-race-us-and-russia-experts-warn

UPDATE: Nuclear Arms & Controls spokesman in China has denied the report of SCMP about 'secretive nuclear research'. The gas gun device is for validation check of current stored warheads, not simulating the nuclear yield. He also strongly reminded that China will always oblige the No First-use Policy:

http://3g.china.com/act/news/945/20180530/32467560.html (Simplified Chinese)

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Despite military enthusiasts have poor credibility (especially true to China), the insider's word are rarely undermined. An anonymous insider had 'confirmed' the second indigenous-build aircraft carrier and one LHD are under construction at Shanghai shipyard:

https://www.twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/1001404943079636992 (French)

Pop3's message (now-deleted) translation:
quote:

"I'll share some happy news. China's third aircraft carrier and LHD construction progress is delightful!"


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/29/2018 11:59:15 AM   
Hongjian

 

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Status: offline 		Finally a genuine picture of the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV while in flight. With its twin fuselage housing UHF-AESAs and its 42 meters of wingspan, it would carry out its surveillance mission at near-space altitudes for extended time.


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 1:01:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like the microwave hard-kill isn't just for harming human bodies, but also computers. Should CMANO inspect and see if microwave-based jamming could be implemented?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/attackers-can-send-sounds-to-ddos-video-recorders-and-pcs/

EDIT: Oops, not microwave. I mean ultrasonic. I just also found it's mostly against hard drives, rather than purely non-mechanical electronics.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 8:13:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Microwaves aren't mentioned in that article; do you mean ultrasonic jamming? If so I don't think it's worth implementing; I don't see how ultrasonic attacks could realistically be used more than (at most) tens of metres from a target; high frequency sound gets dampened pretty quickly.

If you do mean microwave jamming, it's already in CMANO; radar jamming with X-band, S-band, etc radars is already using microwaves, while high power microwave weapons are simulated through weapons like CHAMP (known as JASSM-ER [O-EMP] in CMANO) which can be launched by the B-1B 2018 IBS unit.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 11:15:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		The insider who broke the news of the ongoing construction of China's 3rd carrier and first LHD is none other than a retired PLAN officer, best known under his online handle pop3. He has a flawless track record of accurate, if very generalizable leaks on the PLAN's construction schedule.

https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/status/1001741432103755776?s=20

So, for most of us PLA watchers his words are usually Gospel. The 3rd carrier and 1st LHDs being constructed in Shanghai is more or less confirmed. We might see modules by the end of this year.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 11:52:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Dragon029. Dang, I forgot to edit it, I was actually meant ultrasonic. But is still interesting. There are so many tinfoil theories (to block radiations, not just mere conspiracies) surfaced this month.

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ORIGINAL: Hongjian

So, for most of us PLA watchers his words are usually Gospel. The 3rd carrier and 1st LHDs being constructed in Shanghai is more or less confirmed. We might see modules by the end of this year.


Someone has beg to differ, which I rarely take credit from him. He believed it's just another LPD:

https://twitter.com/rajfortyseven/status/1001246953437519873



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 12:31:04 PM   
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Some mysteries around the F15 in the news.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 1:40:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta

Thanks Dragon029. Dang, I forgot to edit it, I was actually meant ultrasonic. But is still interesting. There are so many tinfoil theories (to block radiations, not just mere conspiracies) surfaced this month.

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ORIGINAL: Hongjian

So, for most of us PLA watchers his words are usually Gospel. The 3rd carrier and 1st LHDs being constructed in Shanghai is more or less confirmed. We might see modules by the end of this year.


Someone has beg to differ, which I rarely take credit from him. He believed it's just another LPD:

https://twitter.com/rajfortyseven/status/1001246953437519873




Yeah, pop3 only said "Shanghai". But Shanghai has multiple yards and not just JNCX.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/30/2018 3:45:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a whole new meaning of "false target"... it, I mean, they are literally moving and reshaping different formations on the surface.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201805/30/WS5b0e4b5ca31001b82571d308.html (video)



quote:

Oceanalph, a maker of unmanned surface vessels in Zhuhai, Guangdong province, recently performed a technological demonstration involving 56 miniature unmanned boats off near the Wanshan Islands in the South China Sea.

The test included formation maneuvers and a task assignment mechanism, aiming at verifying the collaboration capability of the company's unmanned boats.

It also displayed the huge potential of unmanned vessels in future naval warfare, Oceanalph said in a statement.




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 5/31/2018 10:17:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		NSM (Naval Strike Missile) wins the LCS and FFG Anti-Ship Missile contract. Not that it was a surprise since Boeing and Lockheed had both dropped out the Harpoon and LRASM.

https://insidedefense.com/insider/navy-awards-over-horizon-missile-contract-raytheon

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 6/1/2018 7:08:29 AM   
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The winner of the U.S. Navy Over-The-Horizon Weapon System (OTH WS) competition is the Naval Strike Missile (NSM) by Raytheon and its Norwegian partner Kongsberg. The information came out last night in the U.S. Department of Defense Contract Announcements.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/june-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/6254-u-s-navy-selects-raytheon-kongsberg-nsm-for-over-the-horizon-weapon-system.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 6/1/2018 10:24:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta

This is a whole new meaning of "false target"... it, I mean, they are literally moving and reshaping different formations on the surface.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201805/30/WS5b0e4b5ca31001b82571d308.html (video)




Global times just reported it on Twitter and it has garnered quite of comments regarding its purpose. Mostly suggested for arming a swarm of unmanned boats with bombs for kamikaze attack, but nobody focus on its formational trait that can be used as fleet decoy, which is far more strategically threatening then just ramming enemy ships with them:

https://www.twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1002082247736885248

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 6/1/2018 1:23:18 PM   
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21227/highlights-from-twitters-defense-communitys-responses-to-tom-cruises-top-gun-2-teaser

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