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Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/2/2018 11:22:28 PM   
John 3rd


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Status: offline 		In honor of Mr. Roper, my sons and I just got done watching the BEST EVER World War Two film---Kelly's Heroes. Dan is a huge fan of it and probably feels bad that we didn't let him know of the film event prior to watching it.

Who LOVES it?

Who DOES NOT?

Woof-Woof!



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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/2/2018 11:29:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, man. Arg. What a movie! Who doesn't relish a rollicking WWII movie with a groovie, pot-smoking '60s feel to it? "I'll see your M*A*S*H and raise you one!"

Thank goodness Hollywood never injected a granola-eating, animal-hugging character into an 1870s Great Plains epic <cough, cough: Dances With Wolves> nor a debauched, Las Vegas-striptease aura to a southern highlands Civil War flik <hack, hack: Cold Mountain>.

John III: troll.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/2/2018 11:31:57 PM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/2/2018 11:39:02 PM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 1:54:23 AM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 1:59:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never seen it. That said, it certainly can't be worse than The Thin Red Line or Dunkirk, both which I watched lost year and thoroughly hated. As for my favorite WW2 movie...hmm...The Bridge on the River Kwai? Tora tora tora? Letters from Iwo Jima?

Not movies, but I enjoyed Band of Brothers and The Pacific HBO mini-series. Of the two, I actually thought The Pacific better in some ways.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 2:02:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Oh, man. Arg. What a movie! Who doesn't relish a rollicking WWII movie with a groovie, pot-smoking '60s feel to it? "I'll see your M*A*S*H and raise you one!"

Thank goodness Hollywood never injected a granola-eating, animal-hugging character into an 1870s Great Plains epic <cough, cough: Dances With Wolves> nor a debauched, Las Vegas-striptease aura to a southern highlands Civil War flik <hack, hack: Cold Mountain>.

John III: troll.


I don't remember much of Dances With Wolves, but I do remember seeing Cold Mountain in theaters and enjoying it for the most part. A few years back, probably over a decade now, I had a chance to visit a number of historical Civil War sites throughout the South and the border states. Part of this included seeing the site of The Battle of the Crater during the siege of Petersburg, which is shown briefly in the movie.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 2:57:34 AM   
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I've never seen it. That said, it certainly can't be worse than The Thin Red Line or Dunkirk, both which I watched lost year and thoroughly hated. As for my favorite WW2 movie...hmm...The Bridge on the River Kwai? Tora tora tora? Letters from Iwo Jima?

Not movies, but I enjoyed Band of Brothers and The Pacific HBO mini-series. Of the two, I actually thought The Pacific better in some ways.


Here's a taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpQgy9DRshw&list=PLTDLqGVmjX5gnQQdEKvOAEEvCh8gUb7Wf


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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 2:59:41 AM   
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No negative vibes!

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 3:44:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: durnedwolf
Here's a taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpQgy9DRshw&list=PLTDLqGVmjX5gnQQdEKvOAEEvCh8gUb7Wf


I really need to see this now. Looks like quite a good family movie! Next time I'm back home for a vacation, I'll watch it with the old man.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 4:06:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kellys Heroes is actually worse than The Thin Red Line. That it manages to achieve that level of incompetence is a testament to Hollywood's knack for distorting history in ways that can make history lovers weep into their breakfast cereal. TMTSNBN: kaff, kaff.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 5:39:53 AM   
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"Kelly's Heroes" is a bank heist flick loosely, and I mean "loosely," set in WW2. Since it's not meant to depict any certain battle, it beats a lot of what passes for "accurate" war flicks.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 9:07:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well there are some are my favorite, like In Harm's Way, Letters from Iwo Jima, Flags of our fathers, Yamato, Das Boot and Fury. And of course the funny Kelly's Heroes too.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 9:39:46 AM   
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Maybe he's a Republican!


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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 9:53:12 AM   
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when I saw it)

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 9:57:59 AM   
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Worth watching just for the theme song....

Unlike TMTSNBN this film has no pretensions of being a WWII movie!!

It's a 70's heist/comedy movie with more than a touch of 60's social commentary filmed in a surprisingly authentic WWII setting, pure and simple.

A lot of fun and should be treated as such....



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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 10:03:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Easily my favorite movie of all time. Pretty sure I could recite the dialogue backwards which is kinda sad I guess

First saw it aged about 8 when my sister's friend, not much of a friend either, inexplicably recorded it off TV and gave me the VHS tape. Needless to say that tape was soon wrecked.


I'll be humming 'Burning Bridges' for the rest of the day....


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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 10:31:28 AM   
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It is a great movie. I love it.

Trivia:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065938/trivia


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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 11:09:24 AM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 11:17:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Kellys Heroes is actually worse than The Thin Red Line. That it manages to achieve that level of incompetence is a testament to Hollywood's knack for distorting history in ways that can make history lovers weep into their breakfast cereal. TMTSNBN: kaff, kaff.


A lot of movies are worse than The Thin Red Line, because it's that good!! A little philosophy to go with your disemboweling machine gun fire, Mr Roper?

The Thin Red Line is one of my Top Ten of all time. Beautifully shot, well acted by an all star cast, a complex and challenging script that makes us consider those who were just no prepared to go charging up a hill with a gun, no matter how compelling the reasons.

There is a reason all of those star actors took bit parts to be in a Terrence Malick film about the WW2 Pacific. It wasn't money.


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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 11:20:57 AM   
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Bataan, 12 o'clock high, Saving private Ryan, D-day, the Stalingrad sniper movie (forget the name).

And in the chips and beer category I must admit I loved the Baa Baa Black Sheep series....

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 11:25:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		and Band of Brothers and the Pacific are top notch. I agree that the Pacific is slightly better - but that might because I have studied the Pacific war 'more' and therefore it resonates more.

Another like - Devil's Brigade.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 11:56:03 AM   
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Longest Day (colorized version) - the cast is great

There are plenty of others, but I picked one from each theater of war.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 12:35:24 PM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 1:57:10 PM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 2:32:28 PM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 2:54:32 PM   
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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 3:39:18 PM   
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How about Come and See by Elem Klimov? The movie looks like something Tecumseh Sherman and Salvador Dali would have made with adequate time-travel technology.


Nah. It was an interesting piece with brutal cinematography. But non-mud-drenched character development was lacking. And the forced agape-mouth and forced wide-eyed stares of the protagonist wore thin too. The village scene in the end was very well done however. It was "OK" as a reaction piece, but not what I think of as a war movie, any more than 'Coming Home' or 'Born on the Fourth of July' were 'real' war movies.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 4:15:50 PM   
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+1 for Kelly's Heroes. I was a high school senior in 1970 and I loved that movie(I was probably in the proper state of mind
when I saw it)

That movie was a tongue-in-cheek parody of bank heists and war movies that never intended to be serious about anything. Memorable characters and lines bring to mind "The Princess Bride" formula - it doesn't have to make sense as long as it is entertaining.

As for best actual war movies:
1. Letters from Iwo Jima - finally, a movie that humanizes the Japanese, especially the young soldiers who were terrified and poorly led by their junior officers.

2. Das Boot - downright claustrophobic, and it gave the crew real personalities and reactions to combat stress.

3. Stalingrad - the German version that showed not only the chaotic fighting but the breakdown of discipline and morale when the Russians succeeded in surrounding the 6th Army.

4. Stalingrad - the Russian version, focusing on a small unit holding one critical building and their German opponents trying to assault it. It shows civilians trapped in the cauldron trying to survive being caught between two forces that both want them to be loyal their side.

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RE: Greatest WWII Movie--EVER! - 9/3/2018 4:25:53 PM   
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"The film is based upon a true incident. The caper was covered in a book called “Nazi Gold: The Sensational Story of the World’s Greatest Robbery – and the Greatest Criminal Cover-Up” by Ian Sayer and Douglas Botting. The heist was perpetrated by a combination of renegade Nazi and American officers. It was also listed as the “biggest” robbery ever in the Guinness Book of Records, in the 1960’s."

32 things you didn’t know about Kelly’s Heroes –

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/12/31/43655/

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