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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/29/2018 4:30:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		The rumoured testbed J-10B with TVC nozzle has been arrived for participating Zhuhai Air Show. The scheduled Cobra Maneuver will also likely performed by it:

Better keep in touch with Cao’s tweets for more information of the show.

https://www.twitter.com/dafengcao/status/1056761222945599488



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/29/2018 4:55:47 AM   
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https://twitter.com/BZhRK1/status/1056276422233272320

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/29/2018 4:30:26 PM   
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Northern Coasts 18 (NOCO18) led by the Finnish Navy, will take place in Finland from 25 October to 8 November 2018. About 4.000 persons and dozens of surface vessels and aircraft will participate in the exercise. A total of about 4.000 people, more than 40 surface vessels and multiple aircraft will participate in the exercise. There will be 13 participating nations. In addition to Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, the United States and Germany will participate. Finland´s share of the strength of the exercise is about 2.000 persons. The air operations of the exercise will take place around Turku, Tampere and Kuopio, for example.

About 30 ships will arrive in Turku, Finland during the weekend. Just few years ago it was impossible to have several NATO ships in Finland and joint NATO exercises, but not today.

Exercise Northern Coasts 18 will be arranged in Finland between 25 October and 8 November 2018

NOCO 2018 Youtube



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/30/2018 12:09:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		The sub looks small-ish (going by the man far in the right background, and assuming the wire railings topside are roughly waste high. Also, our strong backs are about chest height to an average man. If those are similar it gives an idea of size.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/30/2018 12:44:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ultradave

The sub looks small-ish (going by the man far in the right background, and assuming the wire railings topside are roughly waste high. Also, our strong backs are about chest height to an average man. If those are similar it gives an idea of size.

Navreco has mentioned about MS200 and other bigger, AIP-equipped variants a year ago:

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/november-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5719-china-s-csic-unveils-three-new-submarine-designs-for-export.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/31/2018 5:52:42 AM   
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https://news.usni.org/2018/10/30/china-expects-u-s-navy-to-soon-transit-taiwan-strait

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 10/31/2018 11:47:21 AM   
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24572/russias-dry-dock-accident-could-have-far-larger-repercussions-than-a-damaged-carrier

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/1/2018 2:15:47 AM   
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https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/1057817755095752704





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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/2/2018 3:22:33 AM   
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https://www.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/974399023955283968

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/2/2018 7:40:25 PM   
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[Zhuhai 2018] Après tant d'années resté dans l'ombre, le très mystérieux missile de lutte anti-aérienne chinois HQ-8 semble être enfin proposé à l'export. Doté d'une propulsion hybride SLRR (Solid-Liquid Rocket Ramjet), il cible principalement les AWACS à 400 km de distance


HQ-8 anti-AWACS SAM unveiled. 400km range. I'd say this is the Chinese S-400 derivate.



Apparently, it was already spotted in July this year:


The size of this missile doesnt look like it is anywhere near the 40N6 class. Perhaps the
solid-liquid hybrid ramjet propulsion makes it more compact while retaining the 400km range.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/3/2018 12:59:54 AM   
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HQ-8 anti-AWACS SAM unveiled. 400km range. I'd say this is the Chinese S-400 derivate.


Either the missile system’s FCR is as big and strong as AN/TPY-2 from THAAD, or it has CEC for third-party course correction. Otherwise only missile itself is not telling how it works. If it’s indeed aim for AWACS, what if it’s fly down behind the horizon?

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/3/2018 5:14:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		CM-401 tactical ASBM
15-290km range (MTCR compliant), Mach 4 cruise and Mach 6 terminal speed, as well as evasive capability like the M20/Iskander.
Looks to be the export version of the rumored YJ-XX ASBM under development, the designated future mainstay weapon of the Type 055.

Dimensions are said to be 600-750mm, so would even fit in the 850mm VLS cell.









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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/4/2018 2:49:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hongjian

CM-401 tactical ASBM
15-290km range (MTCR compliant), Mach 4 cruise and Mach 6 terminal speed, as well as evasive capability like the M20/Iskander.
Looks to be the export version of the rumored YJ-XX ASBM under development, the designated future mainstay weapon of the Type 055.

Dimensions are said to be 600-750mm, so would even fit in the 850mm VLS cell.


By playing the math with number 401 compare to YJ-12’s 302, that missile will be called YJ-21 (coincidence with DF-21???) or YJ-41 for PLA use, just my guessimatie.

Also, the article wrote its guidance methods. SAR sensor is confirmed to use for land-attack, while the missile itself has ARH for anti ship (still not answer how it works with hypersonic blackout at Mach 6).

So is US really up for ex-INF game with this? Only I am quite certain is once the PLA or foreign purchaser fire that missile, the entire BMD system will blaring alarms like WW3 just started.

https://3g.china.com/act/military/11132797/20181104/34339173.html (Simplified Chinese)

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CM-401不但单发突防强，而且可以使用多发导弹，多种飞行弹道组合增强导弹协同突防能力，让舰载反导拦截系统防不胜防。
(CM-401 can also fire multiple missiles in different ballistic arches, to deceive anti-air/ballistic countermeasures especally from ships.)

CM-401采用雷达导引头进行制导，导引头可跟踪水面舰艇，也可以使用合成孔径（SAR）方式进行对地成像，从而攻击港口等地面设施。
(It use ARH to seek surface ships, as well as SAR to seek land facilities like ports.)


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/4/2018 3:17:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think Mach 6 isnt fast enough for radar blackout. Maybe just at Mach 20 or so.
Also, closer look on the seeker. Seems to be a fairly conventional mechanically steered pulse doppler radar, but I'm not sure. I imagine any seeker, even an AESA one, needs to have more freedom of movement to keep on target when mounted in a maneuvering missile.


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/4/2018 5:55:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Doppler radars use planar arrays. I think they don’t want to make export variant too expensive for buyers, so Doppler is still a fair choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planar_array

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/4/2018 12:39:40 PM   
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http://cimsec.org/the-bad-day-scenario-and-shaping-the-navy-for-global-responsiveness-pt-1/38716

Perhaps scenario ideas and OOBs may emerge. TBD.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/5/2018 12:08:13 AM   
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Previous models were in the 10kw range and were only tested against small UAVs, as well had ranges like 5-10km.



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/5/2018 12:38:44 AM   
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https://twitter.com/nhk_nw9/status/1058314304561197058

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/2171618/chinese-warship-says-good-morning-japanese-helicopter-carrier

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Chinese warship says ‘good morning’ to Japanese helicopter carrier in South China Sea


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/5/2018 12:59:16 AM   
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Speaking of the Chinese LWS, I just recently found it on Defence Blog. I used to visit those tweets, but I am not sure what is got into the author’s mind, he/she becomes throughly against Chinese and Russian weapon reports. Looks like the public readership get the best of it, so I start to ignore those tweets.

https://www.twitter.com/Defence_blog/status/1059031825790709766

Mostly accusing copies from originals, or attempt to “hide the critique” kind of conspiracies:

https://www.twitter.com/Defence_blog/status/1058325599243120640
https://www.twitter.com/Defence_blog/status/1059071413624168448

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/6/2018 1:37:50 AM   
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J-10B with TVC showing its maneuverbility. Cobra, falling leaf, high AoA post-stall maneuvers etc.

Previously unthinkable with China's engine tech. Now, everything is possible.

EDIT: Actually, it looks like it made two Cobras in a row:

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/1059635641372291072

Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keub-5jh_M4




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/8/2018 2:38:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Somebody in The Warzone want to see how CM-401 ASBM work against modern warships.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24699/china-reveals-short-range-anti-ship-ballistic-missile-designed-to-dodge-enemy-defenses



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/8/2018 6:39:54 AM   
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http://maritimebulletin.net/2018/11/08/norwegian-frigate-damaged-in-collision-with-greek-aframax-tanker-crew-evacuated/


update: current state of frigate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyFw2C1dqv4

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/8/2018 12:02:10 PM   
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24776/badly-damaged-norwegian-frigate-intentionally-ran-aground-after-tanker-collision

http://cimsec.org/strategic-loss-how-eu-sanctions-affect-russias-ability-to-replace-its-sunken-dry-dock/38783

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/11/2018 3:48:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		It’s confirmed that J-20 can only load 4 internal AAMs rather than 6 during the final day of Zhuhai Air Show, and they are all PL-15 BVRAAM. Also, the side missile bays can also close the doors when PL-10 is extended:




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/13/2018 9:50:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

More on the two recent accidents:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24776/badly-damaged-norwegian-frigate-intentionally-ran-aground-after-tanker-collision


TheDrive has updated the news.

Basically, Helge is now a submarine.





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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/13/2018 4:24:55 PM   
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C'mon, PLAAF. There is no need to censor the IFR probe while demonstrating it!

Anyway, finally a cofirmation on how that thing works.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/13/2018 6:44:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta

Basically, Helge is now a submarine.



Not quite. "All ships submerge but only submarines surface" :)

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/15/2018 12:45:16 PM   
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https://www.janes.com/article/84585/divine-eagle-uav-spotted-at-china-s-malan-airbase


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/15/2018 6:03:36 PM   
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RE: Naval and Defense News - 11/16/2018 9:44:24 PM   
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