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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:50:02 PM

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around Tula I push to cut the Russian rr's

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:50:44 PM

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Big V will not fall.

love the late shatter!

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:52:09 PM

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Pushing East to cut the rr coming from Yaraslov.

This was a strong point. I am clearing a path so that the tanks wont have to cross a river

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:54:22 PM

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just don't have enough mp's to do much damage

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:55:04 PM

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Final north Moscow before mud hits

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:56:18 PM

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final south Moscow

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:58:06 PM

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Final Leningrad area.

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 12:59:36 PM

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I give one last push to take Rostov.

Maybe in the snow. Maybe not.

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 1:00:44 PM

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And a hasty into the swamp

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RE: 17 Last clear Kerch attack - 11/18/2018 1:02:28 PM

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Final south.

Mud will result in very far mp's to supply.

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RE: 17 Last clear - 11/18/2018 1:05:30 PM

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Final Big V

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17 rr report - 11/18/2018 1:06:05 PM

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North

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17 rr report - 11/18/2018 1:06:48 PM

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South

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17 air kia report - 11/18/2018 1:08:14 PM

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Hyla is winning this air war

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17 ground kia report - 11/18/2018 1:09:12 PM

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Not enough captured

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Strategy - 11/18/2018 1:10:52 PM

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If someone has opinion about what the heck I should do, now is the time to speak up.

HYLA is finishing his last snow turn as I write.

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RE: Strategy - 11/18/2018 5:45:58 PM

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This is a nice AAR, hope it continues. As to what you can do now it really depends on what your objectives are and how sure you are you can achieve them. The game seems to be a couple of turns ahead of the AAR, so I don't know what happened during the 3 snow turns but I would advise you to pull back from the northern thrust to Leningrad. Come blizzard you need much shorter lines to free up reserves, help the supply effort and to avoid encirclements. Try wintering your armored formations and some of your best infantry formations (if you can). Give ground where you can and make the Soviets chase you.

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RE: Strategy - 11/18/2018 9:23:18 PM

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I think the push into the far north for a rail line that didn't even isolate Leningrad was a bad move....esp when earlier In the campaign you could have cut that drive short and turned the assault west instead and maybe captured another army or so of soviets.

IMO not taking Pskov until very late in the campaign kind of doomed any assault on leningrad...as the best rail route to support taking leningrad is Pskov then go straight east through the vladai hills and around if the Soviets stonewall Leningrad...by not even attempting this route you cost yourself supply and time.

After playing several matches and watching a lot.... not assault leningrad is a bad move for the Germans...as the soviets must either commit alot of forces to fight/delay or just give it up. As well once you get Pskov you have two avenues to assault leningrad which with german mobility makes it basically impossible to hold.

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RE: Strategy - 11/18/2018 9:32:02 PM

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quote:

think the push into the far north for a rail line that didn't even isolate Leningrad was a bad move....esp when earlier In the campaign you could have cut that drive short and turned the assault west instead and maybe captured another army or so of soviets. IMO not taking Pskov until very late in the campaign kind of doomed any assault on leningrad...as the best rail route to support taking leningrad is Pskov then go straight east through the vladai hills and around if the Soviets stonewall Leningrad...by not even attempting this route you cost yourself supply and time. After playing several matches and watching a lot.... not assault leningrad is a bad move for the Germans...as the soviets must either commit alot of forces to fight/delay or just give it up. As well once you get Pskov you have two avenues to assault leningrad which with german mobility makes it basically impossible to hold.

My second turn heading to Pskov was so pathetic is ruined any chance against a good player such as HYLA. I needed to do a sparkly tits open. lol

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RE: Strategy - 11/19/2018 3:06:46 AM

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Things don't look like they'll be great for you on the north half of the map. Hummm..

North of Moscow, I can't see driving further straight north working out well. Your railhead is close though. From Vyshny, could push either NW towards Volkhov, add in a little push from Novgorod, see if you can pocket a little. Or, from Vyshny, push SE a little, threaten Moscow more. Either way you have most of the Valdai hills, get infantry digging in to good defense terrain as things allow.

South of Moscow, Oka river is a big problem. Going farther east than Ryazan won't help much, any gains would be lost over winter. Lots of swamps north of Ryazan makes advancing a crawl even when weather is clear. Pushing through Kaluga on north side of river threatens Moscow just as much, uses less vehicles and supplies, and will be easier to defend in winter since rail line is so close.

Southern half of map, Rostov is a good focus. A panzer group can capture it, then get in all the mountain divisions you can spare from Moscow area to try and hold it.

Then come spring, it'll be focus time. Depending on how winter goes and HLYA builds up, could look at A: Leningrad, B: grand double envelopment of Moscow, or C: Rostov-Caucasus. I'd camo a panzer group or even two in woods/heavy woods well back from the front, maybe split up a div into regiments so it looks like a corps while the rest of the corps is 40 hexes away, stuff like that. See what you can keep concealed from the Soviets about your spring plans.

It's gonna be tough I'm sure. You got Crimea on a silver plate, but with the units saved Soviet has a real bastion around Leningrad. Fun times!

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Good luck - 11/19/2018 4:21:20 AM

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Good luck comrade

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RE: Good luck - 11/19/2018 10:30:50 AM

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Desperate looking position Brian :(
To be honest I might try something a bit off the wall here, a kind of hail Mary :) Namely, run fast North of Orel and try to hold South of Orel. This would most likely create a big Northern overhang which could be dangerous for the Soviets in 42. This plan would probably prove disastrous but it is active at least and could force your opponent into a mistake.
The commitment needed at Orel and South would be very heavy so North of roughly Kaluga would just be a screen designed to stop cav exploiting too far (hopefully) :) Even so I would anticipate them comfortably reaching the Dvina, possibly further, before running out of steam.

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Mud 1 - 11/20/2018 10:21:04 PM

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Nice defense against last clear turn counterattack attack near Rostov