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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 1:01:45 PM   
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While my opponent makes his turn, I am planning the training for the allied pilots.
I am going to make it 1 squadron diff tasks method.
For the USAAF the west coast squads will be training on the pattern of "Train Escort 20k to Air 70, Train Strafe to Def 70, graduate". Then, the CAP 100% groups in backwater area would take over, for example CAP for Fiji, Hawaii, Aleutians, etc. For brits, NZ, australians and others - same squad would rotate to CAP when the basics is done.

For LBs, I will go for Ground Bombing skill only for all, with about 25% being trained also in low naval.

For USN guys - I am going to train the DBs in naval bomb only, and TBs in NavT/LowN only. Fighters would be same as army. I am going to use those neat kingfisher groups for additional fighter training - they can fly CAP ;)
USMC bombers would go also to a ground/low training for DB/TB. USMC 2E would be skip bombing only. USMC 4E would be ASW only resource.

British and commonwealth bomber boys would only train ground bombing to 80%, and remaining 20% ASW.

Patrols would be Nav Search, and if reasonable also ASW and primary attack (LowN/NavT)

Recons are recon only.





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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 1:24:17 PM   
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And yes, I have one more question ;)

I am planning the way to go on grand strategy.... I have envisaged 4 ways where I could put the entire weight of my power projection by early 43

Most commonly seen is the historical SoWestPac way, Solomons and jumping up.

Also often is the SoPac, Fiji/Samoa->Tabituea, then Ocean/Nauru, and then upwards.

Another way is CentPac, and which I have successfully implemented against AI, is the one of Wake->Marcus->Guam/Saipan->Philippines.

Another way is the Perth->DEI strike, aiming for his oil. Never tried this way...

Burma -> Singers -> Saigon -> China axis also worked vs AI but probably too slow vs. human.

And the last way I seem never to have seen as a primary axis - Aleutians->Kuriles->Hokkaido, then bomb the hell out of his industry. Did anyone ever tried this way? Do you think it is a worthwile way to go?

Would you regularily concentrate on 2-3 directions or go with just one?

I have some temptation to try DEI landing on one side, and NorPac on other side, just to keep it different...




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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 2:07:23 PM   
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Would you regularily concentrate on 2-3 directions or go with just one?

You have to do different directions or at least seriously feint, else Japan will concentrate all defences against your main thrust and it won't be pretty.

Kuriles were done a lot, sometimes in a spectacular fashion. Canoerebel(A) is doing it right now in the AAR section against obvert(J). Initial invasion depends a lot on being unpredictable, because of the distances involved. Unless done in late 44 or 45 where Death Star can push through

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 4:13:03 PM   
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Do the most unexpected. Go right for Tokyo!

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 5:10:13 PM   
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I actually done it once vs AI, just for fun. Worked! It were 15 divisions landed at once in jan 1943...

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 6:47:13 PM   
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I actually done it once vs AI, just for fun. Worked! It were 15 divisions landed at once in jan 1943...

AI cannot be a point of reference cause it's hapless and does not react strategically to TFs spotted or invasions happening. Human player will swing whole KB/Kaigun and most of airgroups your way the moment he spots your slow amphibious TFs on the Kuriles horizon, and in 5 turns your transports will be looking into massed air raids and DD run-ins.
However, there are AARs out there where Allies went in with surprise massive Kuriles invasion turning the game upside down. E.g. http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2761796, the one I referred to as "spectacular fashion", starting around page 123

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/19/2018 7:02:00 PM   
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While my opponent makes his turn, I am planning the training for the allied pilots.
I am going to make it 1 squadron diff tasks method.
For the USAAF the west coast squads will be training on the pattern of "Train Escort 20k to Air 70, Train Strafe to Def 70, graduate". Then, the CAP 100% groups in backwater area would take over, for example CAP for Fiji, Hawaii, Aleutians, etc. For brits, NZ, australians and others - same squad would rotate to CAP when the basics is done.

For LBs, I will go for Ground Bombing skill only for all, with about 25% being trained also in low naval.

For USN guys - I am going to train the DBs in naval bomb only, and TBs in NavT/LowN only. Fighters would be same as army. I am going to use those neat kingfisher groups for additional fighter training - they can fly CAP ;)
USMC bombers would go also to a ground/low training for DB/TB. USMC 2E would be skip bombing only. USMC 4E would be ASW only resource.

British and commonwealth bomber boys would only train ground bombing to 80%, and remaining 20% ASW.

Patrols would be Nav Search, and if reasonable also ASW and primary attack (LowN/NavT)

Recons are recon only.



ASW is a different mission and skill than Nav B/Low Nav/NavS. The latter three do not help at all with ASW attacks, although NavS will help spot subs and (rarely) might even attack them. Your carriers will need dedicated air ASW patrols. Use your TBs at 20% and 2000 feet for that while the DBs do higher naval search.

Note that the actual patrol zone for ASW air is half the range you set for your aircraft i.e. a range of four set will only do ASW patrol for two hexes distance from your TF. This is because ASW is a much more intensive search than NavS, because subs are harder to spot and attack.

I train my TBs up to 40 in ASW before setting out and continue training a few at a time (10 to 20%) while in safe waters during transits. Subs are the biggest threat to major warships until you get into enemy air range.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/20/2018 7:20:21 AM   
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AI Games cant be taken as a master of course. Humans react differently. I would see where he would be going to strike, and try to outflank him. I would love to blast DEI and North as my assault axes, but I am flexible.

ASW - I usually have a dedicated ASW trained squadron in the CVTF, often mounted on a smaller carrier. Sometimes its Hermes or one of the fleet brits. On march I often put all DBs and TBs on ASW 70% - even if not trained, they would land hits due to saturation, and also scare the hell out of subs. If there are subs to strike, they are also all learning well. All floatplanes from battleships and cruisers in escort are also on ASW mission.

I sent in the next turn, lets see whats going to happen. Some of the HK evac boats are spotted, some not. I hope he would hunt them to the south.... Most ran away too early, with troops but little supply, I forgot so set them to direct/coastal/absolute.... Now they are set so, are to unload and then go back to HK for supply extraction.

Many of the Philippine evacuees which were running flank speed are out of imminent danger, both on north borneo coast and on midway direction. Smaller ships dispersed at dot bases to wait the enemy cruisers to go away and then slip towards safety on midway direction.



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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 7:13:05 AM   
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We had 2 turns since the last update, and it is not going too well.
On the turn 3, the first combat was surprising, as my PT boats attacked his carriers. They launched torps from 5000 yards against twice Hiryu, and Kaga but unluckily missed. One PT boat was lost, but he was probably scared. His CVs moved to the southeast of Hilo that turn.

He caught my HK Evac. Only 3 ships came through, rest caught by a 5x TB task force, a massacre. A pair more were killed by bombers from Canton on the day. Some troops and supply unloaded however.

He also chased survivors from Manila, killing some, but many are through.

PT Boats from Manila struck at his SCTF, sinking DD Hatakaze, but several other attacks went wrong, and all british, all philippine, and all but 3 american PTs are gone.

I-2 sunk the SS Tautog, which was limping to hide at dot base after pearl harbour damage

AG Antares was sunk b I-169 and I-170 near Kona.

KXII sunk AK Kinka Maru which is a large transport at Patani, and S-38 sunk xAK Matsukawa Maru

He landed in Sorong on the NG northwest tip, apparently using CM Itsukishima as fast transport. Went wrong for him, as my flying dutchmen came from Ambon and sunk her - 4 bomb hits from 1000ft. Not trained, but still worked.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Allied aircraft
      139WH-3 x 3
      B-339D x 2
      Do-24K-1 x 2
      Hudson I x 4
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese Ships
      CM Itsukushima, Bomb hits 4,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
               Naval Attack:  1 x 300 kg SAP Bomb
       2 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 1000 feet
               Naval Attack:  4 x 300 kg SAP Bomb
       4 x Hudson I bombing from 1000 feet
               Naval Attack:  2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
 


2 Catalinas from Ambon also placed 2 bombs on her burning wreck.



Another sortie on PH, first a sweep by 8 Zeros, then 103 kates came in with 41 Zero escorts. My flyboys did not very good, they are all tired and only a few enemy were killed. BBs are getting hit, and some now at 99% system, but still in Shipyard, so gonna survive for a while I hope.

KB went to SE from Hilo probably to escape my subs or to chase slow guys running away to Palmyra. He killed Argonne, AR Medusa, PG Sacramento and AMc Cockatoo at sea.


He is striking my chinese in plains with unescorted Sallys and 1EBs, so I set some cap traps with AVG and ex-Philippines P40s for next turn.

Intense air combat over Philippines went not too good for me, I am taking the P40 flyboys out now.









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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 7:15:10 AM   
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Did you change leaders in fighter air groups in PH? Some of the starting leaders have very low AIR skill.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 7:29:44 AM   
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The 4th turn is even worse, with just one exception - no strike on PH any more, and no KB air attack apparently.

More evac troops sunk, also a few whom I thought safe deep in DEI.

I was mining many locations in DEI, and he intercepted 4 single minelayers this turn... Zaan, ProPatria, Rigel and van Oranje gone. Luckily after laying the mines at Palembang and Kuching last turn.


Houston was to join a SCTF by merge, but instead they attacked 5 IJN DDs at daylight. Not bad! I think Umikaze is a goner, as sinking sounds after battle.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Donggala at 69,96, Range 21,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 1
      DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 1,  on fire
      DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 1,  heavy fires
      DD Umikaze, Shell hits 1,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 1
 
Allied Ships
      CA Houston, Shell hits 4


Cruiser St. Louis got a torp near Palmyra from his sub. Hopefully she'll survive, and hopefully KB is not coming to Palmyra too. I am dispersing PH Evacs to dot bases.


A fight in DEI takes my CruTF out of action I suppose. Not sure if they survive, or who is lost, as I only got the replay yet.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Donggala at 68,97, Range 24,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Haguro, Shell hits 6,  on fire
      CA Nachi, Shell hits 7
      CL Nagara, Shell hits 5
      DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 2
      DD Oyashio, Shell hits 2
      DD Hatsukaze
      DD Natsushio
      DD Yukikaze
      DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
      DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
 
Allied Ships
      CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 16,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      CL Marblehead, Shell hits 9,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      CL Boise, Shell hits 7
      DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 4,  on fire
      DD Parrott, Shell hits 2,  on fire
      DD Whipple, Shell hits 1
      DD Stewart, Shell hits 4,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Banckert, Shell hits 1
      DD Witte de With, Shell hits 4,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Kortenaer, Shell hits 5,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 2
      DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 2

If Houston would have joined as planned, I think it might have been better. Anyways, a big destroyer is sunk on his side.

Once more, Buffalos at singers dont do good performance - 29 of them attack unescorted bettys and only one is shot! Many planes are lost on the ground...

He attacked some small bases in Hawaii, but no hits on ships hiding there.... Neither in Kona nor in Hilo.


Dutch and british flyboys tried some low level attacks on his ships, but no hits, except one 300kg bomb on Kumano. Is surely not enough to sink her.

P35s deliver a good melee at Clark, they even shoot down some Zeros but take losses ...

One of my Cap Traps worked, but damn H81s dont shoot a single Sonia....

Philippine defenders put a 250lb bomb in cruiser Naka, but I doubt it is badly damaged.

First B-17 raid of the war. I saw the anchor at Haiphong, and 4 squads of B-17Ds were assigned. Not good trained, and only 7 came in, but sunk a CMc Banshu Maru #18, and placed a 500lb bomb on xAK Somedono Maru there.

Near Sinyang he hit the 2nd Group army HQ, and captured sorong. I hope I was able to fly some of Sorong BF out. I need those tiny BFs for Catalina bases in pacific. San Fernando also fallen, apparently to air landing. A small chunk of Yokosuka 1st SNLF come down there.





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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 7:30:26 AM   
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quote:

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Did you change leaders in fighter air groups in PH? Some of the starting leaders have very low AIR skill.


Hmm. A good point to check - I did not...

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 7:31:47 PM   
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Just sent in next turn. I think I spotted his tankers for KB to the north of Midway, about 12-15 hexes. I have Lexington and Enterprise converging on them. I hope I can stop his KB ops if I can sink those. It can of course be an invasion force, but it can also be well used as a target for Dauntlesses and Devastators.

His KB splitted, 4 are southeast of Hilo, and 2 (listed as CVL+CV) moving northwest, probably to support Wake invasion. If he really keeps them split, I might probably try my 3 CVs (Saratoga in 3 days at Midway) vs his 2.... However, if his big KB moves north if I strike tankers, I will go out of his way.

From my surface TF which clashed with heavy cruisers, Boise is operable, De Ryuiter is sunk with 2 DDs, and Marblehead and one more DD is damaged and on heavy fire. I will let her disband in Balikpapan to at least extingush. The rest is going to rearm at Batavia.

I positioned some british TBs to Bandoeng and Batavia, there are torps there. His heavy cruisers are close by, and I would love to put a 18 inch gift into their soft underbellys

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 9:55:16 PM   
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quote:

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Just sent in next turn. I think I spotted his tankers for KB to the north of Midway, about 12-15 hexes. I have Lexington and Enterprise converging on them. I hope I can stop his KB ops if I can sink those. It can of course be an invasion force, but it can also be well used as a target for Dauntlesses and Devastators.



If your carriers are spotted, it may be hard to get back to Pearl. I hope you have oilers around to refuel them.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/22/2018 10:05:46 PM   
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I am not going to Pearl, my plan is to run to Dutch Harbor or Adak afterwards, then to West Coast, if any reaction from KB occurs. Without oilers he would not be able to pursue me for long. For now, none of the carriers is spotted.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/23/2018 7:06:43 AM   
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I just got the Combat, and this turn went not as I planned. No attack on tankers occured. I dont know why - if it was due to weather, lost contact, or maybe it was a sub? Will see it in the evening.

His destroyer teams went on picking some evacuees, and the subs started to get annoying.
From important ships, AS Pelias was hit twice near Palmyra. Damaged CL Marblehead got 3 torps from I-123, I-10 picked two big xAPs near Suva, and I-124 finished damaged Witte de With. A small tanker TF which wanted to get some fuel out of Tarakan was shelled, with AVP Valk, PC Formalhaut, AO Tan 1, and TK British Sailor sunk. A good thing is that his TF which was fighting the cruisers last turn, is shrunk to 2 CA 1 DD only, and they probably now out of ammo. Another cruiser TF is swarmed out to Tjilatjap, and sunk a tanker there.

SS S-37 was DCed and damaged.

He invaded Nauru, Ocean, and also taken HK.

A small revenge happened however, as KXVIII sunk xAP Hakusan Maru with troops near Cam Ranh. British/Dutch cruisers from Palembang reacted on the enemy destroyers at Singkawang, sinking one and probably 2 more of his destroyers. I have 2 listed with heavy damage, but cant say if they sunk or will do that, or not. Daylight long range battle was good for me, as no torps came in, and the CLs can absorb some 127mm hits much better, while delivering lots of deadly 6" shells.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 55,87, Range 18,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Shinonome, Shell hits 3
      DD Usugumo, Shell hits 14,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 1
      DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 8,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Uranami, Shell hits 22, and is sunk
 
Allied Ships
      CL Java, Shell hits 1
      CL Danae
      CL Dragon, Shell hits 3
      CL Durban
      CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2
      DD Vampire, Shell hits 1
      DD Vendetta, Shell hits 1
      DD Van Nes, Shell hits 4,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      DD Evertsen, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
      DD Stronghold
      DD Tenedos, Shell hits 1
      DD Electra, Shell hits 3
      DD Jupiter, Shell hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
 


Singers cap sucked once more - 31 buffalo and 7 blenheims IF in layered fashion got 22 unescorted Betties, and did not shoot even one! 9 damaged, so maybe a few would fail to return, but not what I expect in such engagement! They revenged later however - 36 more unescorted Betties came later, and they downed 5 with 6 damaged. KB's strikes were small in size, sunk one PC, one AM amd one old AO near Palmyra...

My Catalinas sunk a big transport with troops near Catanduanes -

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Catanduanes at 83,81
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Allied aircraft
      PBY-4 Catalina x 5
 
Allied aircraft losses
      PBY-4 Catalina: 1 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
      xAK Huzikawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
      xAP Rakuyo Maru
 
Japanese ground losses:
      1064 casualties reported
         Squads: 38 destroyed, 15 disabled
         Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 13 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 15 (13 destroyed, 2 disabled)
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x PBY-4 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
               Naval Attack:  2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
       2 x PBY-4 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
               Naval Attack:  2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo




S-36 ran a torp into xAP Husimi Maru, but it was empty...






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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/23/2018 7:14:09 AM   
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As for AOs for my carriers, I have 4 replenishment TFs moving north to support, with 3 fast big and 3 slow smaller AOs, and I think one or two AEs. I am converting around 20 Hog islanders and Harrimans to AKEs, to provide a rearm logistics. I usually avoid modifying large fast 16 knot transports to AE that early, but those big WW1 vintage ships are more then enough for resupply until underway replenishment would be possible in 45.




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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/23/2018 11:39:06 AM   
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Alex is very fast in making turns now, and its such a lousy feeling to be in the office, having the next turn in the mailbox, and having to wait for at least 6 more hours until the kids will be asleep and I could process the turn...

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/24/2018 9:12:22 PM   
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He apparently has one CVL or CVE trailing my Philippine Evacs towards Iwo Jima. My carriers are not yet detected, and are on intercept course... If he shows up, I move in.

One his KB part is near PH (says 9 fighter 52 bombers, apparently 1 carrier), another is around Palmyra. He flew some unescorted attacks on Kona and Hilo (and did not hit a thing there despite a damaged CA and some transports there), so I moved a few P-36 to Hilo as a CapTrap, another P-36 squad went to Lahaina, where badly shotup Arizona is hiding. These boys got good commanders assigned, and despite being low on morale, I hope to get some Kates or Vals for dessert. If he closes in, all bombers at PH are set to 1000ft naval with all available fighters as escort.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/25/2018 6:56:14 AM   
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Uhm, you could upgrade the big Mohawk unit that starts in San Francisco to Airacobra provided that you have at least one Airacobra in the pools. The released Mohawsk go the pool, and you can fill your Mohawk units in PH with them. Mohawks repair really fast, so your PH CAP could get a real boost from them.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/25/2018 10:40:43 AM   
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That is a good plan. I had no P39s in the pool however.

Instead, I placed a pair of P36 in 1/144 scale to my work bench to be modeled ;)

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 6:57:30 AM   
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While watching the replay of the previous turn, I noticed that my PBYs placed 2 torps in Kaga and one in a battleship... all 3 were duds... Bad luck. He had only 9 fighters on CAP, and I came through many times with bombers at 1000ft and Angry Cats with Torpedo Whiskers.... No SBD-1 came, as he stays at 6 hex away - he probably knows that. He has no more torps on her apparently...

Only Kaga is loitering around PH, all other 5 are spotted around Palmyra. I am going to strike her. Lex, Ente and Sara run flank speed to intercept her, then refuel in PH and back to north. All 3 have an extra squadron on board, with 92-96 planes in total. Lex got the Wake Island marine Wildcats, Ente got the Vindicators she had on board on start, and Sara picked 18 Marine Wildcats with her. No supermen pilots, but nice extra saturation. Never too many flyboys. She was indicated to move west, towards Johnson Island, so I converge on Johnson Island. Not sure here if Johnson is level 2 or more, if yes, I will fly the Vindicators and Wildcats there. It can be a trap, but as long as I am not spotted, I will take my risks.

Next turn just came in.
For the beginning, S-36 sunk an xAP near Laoag, 2 torps hit and sinking sounds. Down she goes.
O19 placed a torp in xAK, but not enough I fear. I-154 replied with sinking my small xAP - i am moving some small xAK/xAKL/xAP to extract unrestricted troops from Singers.

xAP Neptuna was nearly out of danger, running with some troops to Midway... Sunk by 2 DDs...

I saw enemy ships coming to Mersing. So, Java, Danae, Durban, Mauritius and Thanet ran to intercept. At first, they sent the entire 1st Minesweeping Division down
Day Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 51,82, Range 21,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      DMS W-1, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
      DMS W-4, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
      DMS W-5, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
      DMS W-6, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
 
Allied Ships
      CL Java, Shell hits 1
      CL Danae
      CL Durban
      CL Mauritius
      DD Thanet


Then they clash with the SCTF

Day Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 51,81, Range 23,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CL Sendai, Shell hits 5
      CL Jintsu
      CL Isuzu, Shell hits 3,  on fire
      DD Arashio, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
      DD Asagiri
      DD Yugiri
      TB Kasasagi, Shell hits 1
      TB Kari, Shell hits 1,  on fire
 
Allied Ships
      CL Java
      CL Danae, Shell hits 2
      CL Durban
      CL Mauritius, Shell hits 4
      DD Thanet, Shell hits 1


And again just a bit later.
Day Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 51,81, Range 25,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CL Sendai, Shell hits 5,  on fire
      CL Jintsu, Shell hits 4
      CL Isuzu,  on fire
      DD Asagiri, Shell hits 1,  on fire
      DD Yugiri
      TB Kasasagi, Shell hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      TB Kari, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
 
Allied Ships
      CL Java
      CL Danae, Shell hits 2
      CL Durban, Shell hits 4,  on fire
      CL Mauritius, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
      DD Thanet, Shell hits 7,  on fire


They will retire to Singers to rearm and pick more ships - I was crasy enough to put a few cruisers and destroyers to 1-2 days shipyard there. If Mauritius is not sunk, she will be serviced in Singers, too. He is blasting the Airfield there, but no attacks on the docks yet.

A number of obligatory bombings on troops and airfields happened, but no cap traps worked yet. He apparently keeps at 5+ hex away from Changsha, to outrange my AVG flyboys. Same unit is bombed for a few days now by unescorted Sallies and Anns, so the Manila P-40s are going to use extreme range cap trap there with drop tanks... They are now rested well and numerous.

15 B-17s attack Hankow, but hit only one airbase supply - Nates and Flak damage 10...I will probably go for easier targets first until more experience is there.

60 Kates strike Christmas Island, and sink a TK, 2xfast AK, DM, DMS there. A pity, but a waste of supply for him. 59 Vals assault Washington Island dot base, and that is a pure waste... Only some Oplosses for him.

He is agressively using F1M2 Petes on CAP missions over his convoys, and there were some Floatplane vs Floatplane duels, mainly with Kingfishers and PBYs winning.

O20 sub sunk a subchaser Ch11, this guy disintegrated.

He took Sinyang in China.

In Canton, I brought in 3 chinese corps. They will just sit there and do nothing. One made a shock attack last turn and got damage, but I still have 331 AV in a heavy urban hex. He has 792 AV, but he should take big losses there to extract. 3 more Corps are on their way. He cant move his troops away there until he boots me out - I marked 3 Hexsides already there, and will try to mark all of them to surround the man. His resources should also stop producing. Not sure if the industry stops, we are in 1.7 latest stock, he did not want any Beta.

4 xAKLs reached Kwangchowan fully loaded with supplies and unloaded, unspotted, about 6000 supplies for China. Lots of supplies to be found on remote locations in DEI and Philippines, and until caught, the xAKLs will keep shuttling. Many xAKL are hiding at dot bases now to wait for enemy SCTFs to go away. Some loaded tankers from Manila too, moving 1-2 hex dot bases when no surface combat boys around.

He took Antimoan and Lucena with Paras, and also Kudat.








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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 7:14:04 AM   
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As a small "balance" after 1 week of ingame time:

I am taking losses, bad losses. He is very agressive, and pushes on on many fronts, but he seems to take bad risks too. KB with low sorties hanging around Palmyra, and splitting off a lonely Kaga - just dud torps saved her. I saw his CAs and even BBs operating without escorts while catching survivors - a pity my sub torps dont work.

I am sinking about 1.5 destroyers per turn from him, and its not a rate he can sustain. By now, around 10 of them are feeding the fish, maybe even more as some were reporting heavy damage, and its more then he gets as reinforcements in 1942.. These are also mainly big new fleet destroyers, even if I cound one older fleet destroyer and 2 TBs to this number. I am mainly loosing old crappy destroyers (4 stackers, Dutchmen, and older brits) and older cruisers in exchange, which I get replaced by new Benson/Gleaves/Livermore and Fletcher class.

My main problem would be a lack of gun fire support. 4 BBs went down in PH, 3 are badly beaten (99 system damage, big engine and flotation damage) on 3 more, they are blocking the PH Navy yard now. Arizona is damaged but not that bad and is hiding in a dot base now, would take a few months to repair however...

Except for cruisers which were damaged or escorting carriers, all intact cruisers and destroyers are now in Suva or a dot base near Shortlands. As long as KB is not there, I am going to actively give him bloody nose there. I am pulling my CAs and CLs to Port Moresby there, some will go to DEI, some to Rabaul/Shortland/Tulagi area. Each ship he looses is never replaced. My ships will be replaced by lots of Clevelands and Baltimores. I am going to take the odds this way.

With more then 30 AKEs in rebuild, I am going to rearm. Main problem is AD, no conversions possible to them, and I lost some.... I could also use some ARs.


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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 1:56:22 PM   
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Dutch subs O-19 and O-20 are minelayers, and you may want to use them to drop the Dutch mines before the subs get sunk. I don't think anything else will handle the type of mine those subs use.

I wouldn't worry too much about ADs - AKEs can re-arm DDs with everything and you get several ADs within the next six months. The only extra capability they give is some help with repairing minor damage. You will need a few AGs spread around to rearm your smaller ASW ships with depth charges. Lots of ships can convert to AG.

The Lassen class xAKs can convert to AEs of 5400 capacity - the only ones that can rearm the 16"/50 guns on the Iowa class. I convert them immediately so I am not tempted to send them on risky cargo/amphib missions near the front. To support other BB/CA rearming, converting the 5250 ton capacity xAKs to AKEs of 4200 tons is sufficient.

Keep in mind that Singapore is a trap for damaged ships if you keep them there too long. Once he has all of Malaya except Singapore/Johore Bharu, his air force can effectively close the strait of Malacca. Meanwhile, he will likely have NW Borneo, Palembang and Oosthaven so escape to the south is also shut off. Repair the minor float damage and get the system damage below 30, then send the cripples out with a good escort and LRCAP if you can manage it.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 2:56:55 PM   
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Both O19 and O20 are on sub minelaying missions. One to Takao, and another to the river entrance to Saigon. But if some fat ship runs across, boom she goes ;)

Can AKEs also reload toredoes? I thought only AD or big enough port can... I converted nearly all Hog Island and Harriman freighters to AKE, so i think in a few days I have around 30 of them ready, spread from India to Australia to New Zealand to US. I think even 1-2 in DEI.

Lassen AK to AE - makes sense.... these are valuable, but I need as many fast transports as I can to shuttle reinforcements, especially planes. AE cant load a group, right?

As for Singers - longest repair estimated is 4 days, most are only 1-2 days. Was useful to get those chaps there - I hope to have spoiled Mersing gambit, and despite losses, I have 4-5 ships (DD and CL) more coming out of repair today, to resume patrolling Mersing. 2 badly shot up dutch DDs are incoming, they might take a few days more, but I have to wait to Evac anyways. If Mauritius did not sink, she may also take some dockyard work there.... At least to the level that I can run them out.

I am building up a fortress at Bandoeng, to bind his forces. Nearly all DEI regiments are being moved there, mountain terrain and heavy forts, and inland. I am also using Lodestars to fly out some regiments from nearby bases, like Barisan regiment from an island near Soerabaja. That fortress should sustain a direct onslaught by a few divisions before annihilated. Or they have to isolate it fully, block all ways and wait until 60000 supplies run out.




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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 8:54:57 PM   
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Despite heavy fever, I sent in the next turn. Kaga is still around PH, 7 hexes away. I have 2 plans - if they are still in range of less then 7, I fly in Saratoga's air group to PH or Lahaina. If he is not close enough, Sara waits outside of the spotting zone for Lex and Ente to come in range, they need 1 turn more I suppose. Hilo is too small at size 1, but Lahaina and PH are fine. If I fly in, I might as well get some DBs from Lex/Ente.

Apparently, the "AO" sighting a few turns ago were a sub. I now see AOs east of Hilo-Palmira line. I detached a few DDs from a convoy to investigate.





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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 11:02:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PetrOs
Can AKEs also reload toredoes? I thought only AD or big enough port can... I converted nearly all Hog Island and Harriman freighters to AKE, so i think in a few days I have around 30 of them ready, spread from India to Australia to New Zealand to US. I think even 1-2 in DEI.

Lassen AK to AE - makes sense.... these are valuable, but I need as many fast transports as I can to shuttle reinforcements, especially planes. AE cant load a group, right?
...
I am building up a fortress at Bandoeng, to bind his forces. Nearly all DEI regiments are being moved there, mountain terrain and heavy forts, and inland. I am also using Lodestars to fly out some regiments from nearby bases, like Barisan regiment from an island near Soerabaja. That fortress should sustain a direct onslaught by a few divisions before annihilated. Or they have to isolate it fully, block all ways and wait until 60000 supplies run out.

Yes, AKEs can load torps. On carriers too. Immensely useful ships them are.

AKEs and AEs can only load supply.

Do not rush your infantry to some undeveloped base yet, let them rest and recover squads in Batavia and Soerabaja. You have rails on Java so you can bugger out on rather short notice. Also TVA flying boats are good transports for collecting folks from nearby islands. I even used some Dorniers for long-range transport to Java, but that was against AI Ironman. The human enemy naturally would require more NavSearch.

60k supplies will melt in a month under bombing, so don't hold your breath. And you better not build up the Bandoeng airfield too much, its damage would hinder your fort repairs. And larger airfield seems easier to hit by bombing, hence to hit your supply dumps. Your air force is not a factor after the first couple days of Zeros sweeping so no airfield is actually better. But then, you need to prevent excessive spoilage too. Decisions..

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 11:02:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

quote:

ORIGINAL: PetrOs
Can AKEs also reload toredoes? I thought only AD or big enough port can... I converted nearly all Hog Island and Harriman freighters to AKE, so i think in a few days I have around 30 of them ready, spread from India to Australia to New Zealand to US. I think even 1-2 in DEI.

Lassen AK to AE - makes sense.... these are valuable, but I need as many fast transports as I can to shuttle reinforcements, especially planes. AE cant load a group, right?
...
I am building up a fortress at Bandoeng, to bind his forces. Nearly all DEI regiments are being moved there, mountain terrain and heavy forts, and inland. I am also using Lodestars to fly out some regiments from nearby bases, like Barisan regiment from an island near Soerabaja. That fortress should sustain a direct onslaught by a few divisions before annihilated. Or they have to isolate it fully, block all ways and wait until 60000 supplies run out.

Yes, AKEs can load torps. On carriers too. Immensely useful ships them are.

AKEs and AEs can only load supply.

Do not rush your infantry to some undeveloped base yet, let them rest and recover squads in Batavia and Soerabaja. You have rails on Java so you can bugger out on rather short notice. Also TVA flying boats are good transports for collecting folks from nearby islands. I even used some Dorniers for long-range transport to Java, but that was against AI Ironman. The human enemy naturally would require more NavSearch.

60k supplies will melt in a month under bombing, so don't hold your breath. And you better not build up the Bandoeng airfield too much, its damage would hinder your fort repairs. And larger airfield seems easier to hit by bombing, hence to hit your supply dumps. Your air force is not a factor after the first couple days of Zeros sweeping so no airfield is actually better. But then, you need to prevent excessive spoilage too. Decisions..

I just tested with an AKE and AE in a Transport TF (no other ships), and the game would have let me load aircraft for transport. They were already fully loaded with supply so I didn't actually load the aircraft.

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RE: A storm to stop! PetrOs (A) vs Pentakomo (J) (No Pe... - 11/26/2018 11:52:48 PM   
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You can load aircraft on them because they can also act as transports carrying supply. The aircraft will of course be in stowed state and therefore disabled upon being offloaded, just like when you load a/c on xAK or AKs (or APs with cargo capacity).

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