Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: kbfchicago

If you set the control to "computer control" on the task force after you designate the patrol zone it will return to port when replenishment is needed and then return to the previously set patrol area. If you leave the TF on "human control" (I believe...) it will patrol until you go and tell it to return to port or it runs out of fuel. I seldom use human control at this point so memory is foggy...

This is not to be confused with "computer controlled sub operations" set for all subs via the "game options", which few people use.

A danger here is your subs can accumulate fairly significant damage and high detection rates when left on "computer control", check in on them periodically, watch the combat reports, and pay close attention to those in high engagement areas. Failure to do so will likely raise your boats casualty rates.


Kevin

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: kbfchicago

If you set the control to "computer control" on the task force after you designate the patrol zone it will return to port when replenishment is needed and then return to the previously set patrol area. If you leave the TF on "human control" (I believe...) it will patrol until you go and tell it to return to port or it runs out of fuel. I seldom use human control at this point so memory is foggy...

This is not to be confused with "computer controlled sub operations" set for all subs via the "game options", which few people use.

A danger here is your subs can accumulate fairly significant damage and high detection rates when left on "computer control", check in on them periodically, watch the combat reports, and pay close attention to those in high engagement areas. Failure to do so will likely raise your boats casualty rates.


Kevin

Under "Human Control" and on Patrol, the sub will still automatically RTB to replenish fuel or torpedoes or both.

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Human control always. The sub TF will try to return to port to replenish in a timely fashion, but sometimes waits too long, and subs cannot replenish at sea so if you don't have a friendly port that is closer, you may have a sub that is adrift at sea with little you can do about it. I don't let the AI do anything I can do myself, you need to keep an eye on your subs out there.

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ORIGINAL: boldrobot

Related question about patrol zones. Say I set hexes A, B, and C as the boundaries of the patrol zone. What exactly does the sub's patrol pattern look like (or really any patrolling ship)? Is it:

1. A --> B --> C --> A --> B --> C --> A, etc.

2. A --> B --> C --> B --> A --> B --> C, etc.

3. patrol within the area bounded by A, B, and C

My understanding is #1 but I'm not sure.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: boldrobot

Related question about patrol zones. Say I set hexes A, B, and C as the boundaries of the patrol zone. What exactly does the sub's patrol pattern look like (or really any patrolling ship)? Is it:

1. A --> B --> C --> A --> B --> C --> A, etc.

2. A --> B --> C --> B --> A --> B --> C, etc.

3. patrol within the area bounded by A, B, and C

My understanding is #1 but I'm not sure.

The closest to a real patrol zone is when the order is given to patrol around the target hex.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

The closest to a real patrol zone is when the order is given to patrol around the target hex. The result is still not a true patrol zone but rather a computer generated set of waypoints determined on the basis of the target hex and enemy dispositions.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Human control always. The sub TF will try to return to port to replenish in a timely fashion, but sometimes waits too long, and subs cannot replenish at sea so if you don't have a friendly port that is closer, you may have a sub that is adrift at sea with little you can do about it. I don't let the AI do anything I can do myself, you need to keep an eye on your subs out there.

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ORIGINAL: Elessar2

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Human control always. The sub TF will try to return to port to replenish in a timely fashion, but sometimes waits too long, and subs cannot replenish at sea so if you don't have a friendly port that is closer, you may have a sub that is adrift at sea with little you can do about it. I don't let the AI do anything I can do myself, you need to keep an eye on your subs out there.

Hmm. So milk cows*/sub tenders can't do anything if they meet out in the open ocean, contingent on the above variable?

*Are these in fact modeled for this game?

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Will sub that is in a patrol zone leave the patrol when it is low on fuel? And if it does, once it refuels will it return to that patrol zone?

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ORIGINAL: wegman58

And if they have some damage they will go back out without repairing. Something to watch for.

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ORIGINAL: Chuckycheese

a

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Chuckycheese

a

b?

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ORIGINAL: Edward75

Is there any difference, if you set submarine in Remain on station and set Patrol zone in hex?

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Is there any difference, if you set submarine in Remain on station and set Patrol zone in hex?

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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Is there any difference, if you set submarine in Remain on station and set Patrol zone in hex?

Absolutely. IIRC 'remain on station' will do just that and not attack. They will respond if attacked. Don't know why, but that's how I remember it. Vessels set to 'patrol' will engage.

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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Be careful about "patrol around hex" settings in areas with high ASW activity. The legs on each section of the patrol zone are so short that your sub will rarely lower its detection level, making it more vulnerable to attack and less likely to get off one of its own attacks. I prefer to set fairly long legged patrol zones along known shipping routes, thus bringing the sub into and out of high ASW patrol areas and keeping its detection level down.