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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/30/2019 1:22:13 PM   
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Best I can figure is that with realistic R&D OFF, if you turn off repairs it will stop R&D from repairing. I was under the impression that there nothing the player could do to stop r&d, and I globally shut down repairs to conserve supplies.

Well, I guess I did conserve supplies.!


You don't get R&D from a partially disabled factory.

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Fixed my meaning.



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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 3:33:30 PM   
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Harbin will fall tomorrow, there is only 120 AV there of junky garrison troops. Soviet troops moved faster than I could. I think I might be able to take it back...but probably not worth the effort given the dire straits that the Empire is in.


China has fallen pretty much. Allies have Hanoi to Lang Son so Hong Kong won't be long for the Empire either.

After a 70 day hiatus, Jack, George and Frank r&d restarted. That isn't so good.

Japan will run out of resources shortly, then oil, then fuel.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 3:55:38 PM   
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Time to give up, or maybe to get an understanding with opponent for a different more balanced match?

Maybe even a reload to some months before?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 4:02:46 PM   
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Just a thought.

Time to give up, or maybe to get an understanding with opponent for a different more balanced match?

Maybe even a reload to some months before?


Never give up!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 4:08:30 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 4:28:38 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 5:27:55 PM   
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I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances


It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/31/2019 6:18:32 PM   
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I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Well, on second consideration, maybe some sushi can really be that bad

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 4:07:48 AM   
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I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances


It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.


Actually, it is not difficult at all. What justification did the Soviets have when they actually did declare war? Stalin would cheerfully have invented a story about Japanese spies and saboteurs landing along with the supplies if he felt he could gain territory -- and it looks like the Soviets are gaining lots of territory in this game.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 3:39:26 PM   
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I have no clue how Obvert does this, but it has happened the entire game, my absolute inability to move SR troops into a contested hex. Very frustrating.

Normally, you can rail into a contested hex (with hexside control), but you cannot rail out of a contested hex.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 3:44:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Harbin holds, thanks to level 4 forts and probably not an entire attack by the Soviets. Plus I thru away about 10 bombers hitting those troops, but probably the saving grace was a partial Soviet attack with lots in pursuit mode.

I have about 4,000 AV moving in on Harbin, and hope to be able to deliver some kind of set back to the Soviets here.

Ground combat at Harbin (109,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 44634 troops, 820 guns, 1829 vehicles, Assault Value = 1810

Defending force 8799 troops, 71 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 145

Allied adjusted assault: 262

Japanese adjusted defense: 407

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
803 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 20 (12 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 44 (9 destroyed, 35 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
300 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
72nd Tank Brigade
3rd Rifle Division
73rd Tank Brigade
77th Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
75th Tank Brigade
12th Rifle Division
36th Motor Rifle Division
185th Cannon Regiment
629th Cannon Regiment
390th Cannon Regiment
114th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
282nd/382nd AA Battalion
1140th Cannon Regiment
42nd Cannon Regiment
624th Cannon Regiment
10th/132nd PVO AA Battalion
147th Howitzer Regiment
411th Howitzer Regiment
1120th Cannon Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
262nd/264th PVO AA Battalion

Defending units:
5th Garrison Unit
4th Army
21st Fld AA Gun Co
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
88th JAAF AF Bn
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
209th JAAF AF Bn



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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 3:45:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the ground combat at Tsinian by the paratroopers.

Ground combat at Tsinan (93,44)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 664 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Defending force 1562 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Allied adjusted assault: 22

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
202nd Airborne Bde /1

Defending units:
7th Manchukuo Inf Brigade

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 4:51:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looking at the bleak industrial picture of Japan, there is only 6K oil on Honshu, with really no prospects for getting more back except the occasional drib and drab from southern SRA.

Resources are tricky too, in that I greatly expand LI in the beginning of the game, and never conquered the resources to supply it. There is about 660K resources on Honshu, HOkkaido is sucked dry, but Sakhalin has 2.4 million. Of course getting that back is a priority, and moving the IJN surface fleet to the Kuriles will become a necessity.

The KB will have to watch over Brunei and Samah.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 5:41:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you know how much we readers appreciate you soldiering on (without complaint!), detailing the hurt in your AAR faithfully.

Do you think it's as hopeless as it seems? What is your guesstimate as to how long Japan can make it?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 6:01:44 PM   
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I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Well, on second consideration, maybe some sushi can really be that bad

It gave Stalin gas... REALLY bad gas!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 6:05:56 PM   
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I think you know how much we readers appreciate you soldiering on (without complaint!), detailing the hurt in your AAR faithfully.

Do you think it's as hopeless as it seems? What is your guesstimate as to how long Japan can make it?



Allies are approaching 2-1 in VP; I think I might be able to keep most of Korea. China is lost. I doubt I could even keep any of the port bases, as the Japanese bombardments in general are poor, and the surface fleet has to move to protect the Kuriles to keep the resource flowing into Honshu.

Honshu is strong, and the KB is around to mess with major invasions.

My guess is the Allies win in mid 43 or sooner depending upon their tactics. There has been no strategic bombing yet of Honshu, and when that starts the fall will accelerate greatly. Just the mere threat of it has weakened Japan. Although I did manage to shoot down 8 B24 and 6 Liberator II last turn but during the daytime....a night bombing of Japan this early would definitely cause Japan to crumble.

I have no reserves, except restricted troops on Honshu. No port is safe for repairs. Minimal oil.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 6:06:36 PM   
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I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Well, on second consideration, maybe some sushi can really be that bad

It gave Stalin gas... REALLY bad gas!


We would have happily imported that gas!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/1/2019 6:07:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Jeff. That's a great synopsis. It really helps me understand your situation. Continue fighting, good man!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/3/2019 2:33:50 PM   
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Harbin doesn't get attacked today, I think the Soviets want to eliminate retreat paths and or wait for the big motorized division to the west to arrive back in Harbin. 4,000 IJA AV is moving on Harbin from three directions, hopefully I can get there.

British, Dutch, Commonwealth troops are flowing like a river from Lang Son into China proper.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/3/2019 9:21:21 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/3/2019 11:16:09 PM   
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Harbin isn't attacked, but the big Motorized Division arrives. Still bombing.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/3/2019 11:17:27 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/4/2019 11:22:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		All those Soviet vehicles sit idle today...why? There is only a 120 AV behind level 4 forts.

The 9th Tank Regiment needs only one mile more to open up the hex, and allow a path of retreat. 3K+ AV is following up...






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/5/2019 1:48:13 PM   
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Harbin, as expected falls...we manage to down 10 Migs and do more damage to the Soviet air force however.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/5/2019 2:01:46 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/6/2019 10:05:03 PM   
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Soviets secure Harbin, there is another 17 units marching in, plus so many Soviet units that can outmaneuver Japan, we are forced to pull back. In addition, the Soviet infantry along the Yenki front are all moving forward.

China is a pell mell retreat, with Allied air power doing their usual number of shattering troops.

Haiphong holds, but all the troops that can be evacuated have been...

Small supply convoy makes Brunei.

Swept Vladisvostock again, this time with Oscars, but there were some Migs present. Still Soviets lost about 30 planes, to Japans 20. Eating into his Mig supply whatever that is.

Meant to take a picture, but plum forgot.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/7/2019 9:55:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I started reading this and I am up to page 66. I think that Oliver Hardy said it best "Another fine mess you've gotten me into!" Did that fleet commander that committed the badly timed smuggling try perform seppuku?

I was thinking of trying Japan just to see how it works on their side. Do the expansion and then attack the Soviet Bear just before the amphib bonus expires. If I did, this AAR shows what needs to be done for preparation.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/8/2019 9:58:32 PM   
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Soviet forces run into the 2nd Tank Division, 58th Division...and an ad hoc defense...but some big guns present. The Tonei heavy guns and the 2nd Tank do all the heavy lifting as the 58th is an absolute crap division (type c/mtn, what I call air mobile), but I wish I had a dozen more of them!

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43043 troops, 493 guns, 799 vehicles, Assault Value = 1657

Defending force 25548 troops, 278 guns, 509 vehicles, Assault Value = 789

Allied adjusted assault: 913

Japanese adjusted defense: 1087

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1663 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1718 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 375 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 42 (2 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Vehicles lost 78 (7 destroyed, 71 disabled)

Assaulting units:
260th Rifle Brigade
205th Tank Brigade
187th Rifle Division
218th Tank Brigade
12th Rifle Brigade
1st Ussurii Tank Brigade
8th Rifle Brigade
18th Rifle Brigade
227th Rifle Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
46th/302nd AA Battalion
Trans Baikal Front
102nd Engineer Battalion
147th PVO AA Battalion
129th Engineer Battalion
18th VVS Base Force

Defending units:
7th Manchukuo Cav Brigade
58th Division
2nd Tank Division
77th Infantry Regiment
29th Ind Engineer Regiment
48th Field Const Co
51st Const Co
52nd Const Co
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
49th Const Co




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/8/2019 10:04:43 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Marine Corp parachutes in after being pounded by 4E beasties and all other type of nefarious animals, and a pretty heavily stocked ASW hub goes away, just like that.

Well, I was in the process of evacuating anyhow, and probably would have moved the planes today anyhow. Will continue evacuating Samah.

China falls more each day despite some nice stalling fights by Japan. Soo many units just swarm forward, no chance to hold anywhere.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 2/9/2019 10:45:25 PM   
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Shokaku take 9 system damage thereabouts. Obvert is the best I know at sub operations, maybe John III is as good. But maybe because Obvert has so many subs this game.

Sub attack near Brunei at 65,87

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku, Torpedo hits 1
CS Chiyoda
DD Yugumo
DD Ikazuchi
DD Makigumo

Allied Ships
SS S-39

SS S-39 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Shokaku
S-39 bottoming out ....
DD Ikazuchi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Makigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Makigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Makigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Makigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Makigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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