TOAW 4 tutorial

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

TOAW 4 tutorial

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> The Operational Art of War IV >> TOAW 4 tutorial

Page: [1]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/2/2019 3:49:05 AM

gradenko2k

Posts: 935
Joined: 12/27/2010
Status: offline

I wrote a tutorial for the game based on my own experiences of trying to learn it, with an emphasis on teaching how to manipulate the UI, and how to translate strategy into action.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=11GMVwu9JQNDuQakTIE_K-E4x0-6uvvWn

I'd like to share it with the community, and also ask for feedback on the document.

Post #: 1

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/2/2019 6:51:32 AM

Oberst_Klink

Posts: 4778
Joined: 2/10/2008
From: Germany
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000

I wrote a tutorial for the game based on my own experiences of trying to learn it, with an emphasis on teaching how to manipulate the UI, and how to translate strategy into action.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=11GMVwu9JQNDuQakTIE_K-E4x0-6uvvWn

I'd like to share it with the community, and also ask for feedback on the document.

Just had a quick scan through - it's awesome! I'll spread the word in the German TOAW community and via #Twitter. Nice job!

Klink, Oberst

_____________________________

My Blog & on Twitter.
Visit CS Legion on Twitter & Facebook for updates.

(in reply to gradenko2k)

Post #: 2

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/2/2019 11:10:40 AM

demyansk

Posts: 2840
Joined: 2/20/2008
Status: offline

Just went through the entire tutorial. Goodjob

(in reply to Oberst_Klink)

Post #: 3

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/2/2019 11:51:42 AM

Oberst_Klink

Posts: 4778
Joined: 2/10/2008
From: Germany
Status: offline

In case some of you are on #Twitter, here's the thread | post -

https://twitter.com/OberstWKlink/status/1101752749660753920

RT, if possible.

Klink, Oberst

_____________________________

My Blog & on Twitter.
Visit CS Legion on Twitter & Facebook for updates.

(in reply to demyansk)

Post #: 4

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/2/2019 1:44:01 PM

MikeJ19

Posts: 3696
Joined: 1/29/2014
From: Ottawa, Canada
Status: offline

Looks great! Thanks!

_____________________________

Mike

Retired Gunner

(in reply to Oberst_Klink)

Post #: 5

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/2/2019 10:15:55 PM

Omnius

Posts: 833
Joined: 6/22/2012
From: Salinas, CA
Status: offline

Very informative! I'm just getting ready to dive into the game and this written tutorial was great for giving me some quick important insights into gameplay. I played TOAW 1 & 2 and it will be interesting to see how the game system has changed and improved.

Thanks!

Omnius

(in reply to MikeJ19)

Post #: 6

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/3/2019 7:21:04 AM

Oberst_Klink

Posts: 4778
Joined: 2/10/2008
From: Germany
Status: offline

If you prefer smaller sandbox scenarios and tutorials, I created this
whole series:

Tutorial '41: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4382552
Tutorial '42: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4387818
Tutorial '42 - Editor: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4401098
Tutorial '43: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4390285
Tutorial '43 - Combat: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4394374
Tutorial '44: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4397183
Tutorial '45: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4412329

Klink, Oberst

_____________________________

My Blog & on Twitter.
Visit CS Legion on Twitter & Facebook for updates.

(in reply to Omnius)

Post #: 7

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/5/2019 5:32:53 PM

TheTom

Posts: 9
Joined: 5/18/2017
Status: offline

Hi, thanks for this great tutorial. Just a quick question: In your example, when double-clicking on an enemy unit, offensive and defensive strenght are shown as 5+2 and 6. But when I try, all I get is "Enemy strength unknown". Is there something I have to cange in the game options to reveal the enemy strength?

(in reply to Oberst_Klink)

Post #: 8

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/5/2019 8:16:20 PM

larryfulkerson

Posts: 39932
Joined: 4/17/2005
From: Tucson, AZ
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheTom
Hi, thanks for this great tutorial. Just a quick question: In your example, when double-clicking on an enemy unit, offensive and defensive strenght are shown as 5+2 and 6. But when I try, all I get is "Enemy strength unknown". Is there something I have to change in the game options to reveal the enemy strength?

The kind of information you can receive from the enemy units in an adjacent hex depends on whether you've "spotted" the hex or if the hex is only "observed". And the information revealed to you is contingent on the value of the theater recon value for your side. If the theater recon value is very low it's possible to not receive very much information at all from adjacent hexes. I think I read somewhere that the Axis side in FITE2 has a theater value of 15 or so and the Soviets are down around 5 or so, I think. I could be wrong....I remember thinking that seeming to be not fair.

_____________________________

If we're all created in the image of god then why aren't we all invisible?

(in reply to TheTom)

Post #: 9

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/6/2019 2:09:22 PM

TheTom

Posts: 9
Joined: 5/18/2017
Status: offline

Yes, I know. I was just wondering why in his example the enemy strength is shown and when I try, the enemy strengh is unknown. I mean, the enemy forces are located on adjacent tiles, and he hasn't done anything so far. Just started the scenario and gets to know the enemy strength.

(in reply to larryfulkerson)

Post #: 10

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/6/2019 4:31:44 PM

gliz2

Posts: 454
Joined: 2/20/2016
Status: offline

During most of the IIWW enemy strenght was assumed mostly through interrigation of POWs. The air reconnaissance was at high-level (to discover enemy concentration for operations).
The intelligence was confronted with the data avilable on given units strenghts.

E.g.the Soviet Tank Div. should have X tanks of Type Z and Y tanks of Type U.
Based on the above the assessments would look like:
In contact with Soviet Tank divs, according to intelligence it is at half strenght (manpower) and around 30-40 tanks (some KVs).

The whole strenght points system is absolutely abstract and in form from the board games usually deceiving. Quality of Command, supply or morale are more decisive than just the "strenght" derrived from equipment. A unexperienced company of Panthers normally would fair poorly against expierenced company of Infantry when an expierenced company of Pz IVH could be as deadly as the top-crews in Tigers.

< Message edited by gliz2 -- 3/6/2019 4:36:52 PM >

_____________________________

Plans are worthless, but planning is essential.

(in reply to TheTom)

Post #: 11

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/9/2019 4:11:56 PM

larryfulkerson

Posts: 39932
Joined: 4/17/2005
From: Tucson, AZ
Status: offline

quote:

I was just wondering why in his example the enemy strength is shown and when I try, the enemy strengh is unknown.

To answer your original question....I'm not entirely sure. Maybe it's got something to do with fog of war? How hard
would it be for you to post a picture showing what you're describing? If my dad was asking he'd probably say something
like: "would it kill you to ...". But I'm trying to be civil and kind and friendly.

_____________________________

If we're all created in the image of god then why aren't we all invisible?

(in reply to gliz2)

Post #: 12

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/10/2019 11:32:00 AM

LeeChard

Posts: 1099
Joined: 9/12/2007
From: Michigan
Status: offline

Even watching the first tutorial I learned something I had missed!

(in reply to larryfulkerson)

Post #: 13

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 3/12/2019 2:45:50 AM

gradenko2k

Posts: 935
Joined: 12/27/2010
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheTom
Yes, I know. I was just wondering why in his example the enemy strength is shown and when I try, the enemy strengh is unknown. I mean, the enemy forces are located on adjacent tiles, and he hasn't done anything so far. Just started the scenario and gets to know the enemy strength.

Fog of War was set to Off when I was writing the tutorial.

(in reply to TheTom)

Post #: 14

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 7/19/2019 3:03:49 PM

Roberbond

Posts: 14
Joined: 8/4/2015
Status: offline

THANK U! very useful!

< Message edited by Roberbond -- 7/19/2019 3:04:05 PM >

(in reply to gradenko2k)

Post #: 15

RE: TOAW 4 tutorial - 7/19/2019 10:58:44 PM

mavraamides