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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/16/2019 9:26:52 AM

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1. Platoon
2. Apocalypse now

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/16/2019 1:10:29 PM

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1. Platoon
2. Apocalypse now

Those aren't in WWII era.

But I like those movies as well.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/17/2019 5:50:13 AM

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thanks guys.. great memories. i guess most of these are older movies but worth mentioning!

1. judgment at nuremberg (1961)
w/burt lancaster, spencer tracy, marlena dietrich and oscar winner maximillian schell.. noteworthy performances by werner klemperer, william shatner and judy garland

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055031/?ref_=nv_sr_1

2. sahara (1943)
humphrey bogart in a grant tank! (i first learned about the grant from the AH boardgame called 'tobruk')

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036323/?ref_=nv_sr_3

3. stalag 17 (1953)
w/william holden - - (hogan's heroes (stalag 13) was loosely based on this film))

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046359/?ref_=ttls_li_tt

4. von ryan's express (1965)
w/ frank "you'll get the iron cross for this von ryan!" sinatra :)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059885/?ref_=ttls_li_tt

5. bridge on the river kwai (1957)
w/william holden

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050212/?ref_=ttls_li_tt

6. Europa Europa (1990)
amazing true story... i found this years ago at a local library (on vhs) and decided to watch.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099776/?ref_=nv_sr_3

7. Operation Daybreak (1975)
another amazing true story.. music by david hentschel who worked with pink floyd and genesis.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075019/?ref_=nv_sr_1

8. the young lions (1958)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052415/?ref_=nv_sr_1

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/17/2019 10:59:07 AM

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Come and See, 1985

Come and See is on YouTube at the moment. With English subtitles:

https://youtu.be/NJYOg4ORc1w

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/17/2019 6:54:28 PM

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My Dad was an Engineer in the 8th Army during the war.
Palestine / Egypt / Libya / up to Italy, that sort of adventure.

He told me that the this movie:Play Dirty for him was the most accurate movie that he ever saw about the desert war.
It gave him flashbacks the few times he watched it.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/17/2019 8:26:43 PM

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Some movies I have missed on this thread. Appreciate the tips. My contribution.

1. Marvin's and Mifune's tour de force Hell in the Pacific

And this one I suspect many of you missed too:

2. Robert Aldrich's (Jack Palance and Lee Marvin in it) Attack (1956)

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How could I forget

3. Sidney Lumet's The Hill (1965), with Sean Connery

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 1:46:49 AM

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Of course who could forget this classic in movie badness, known as the worse war movie ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0kg2GWVHo

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 2:20:16 AM

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Some others worth a mention:

To late the Hero
Play Dirty
Ice Cold in Alex
In which we Serve

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 9:43:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

Some movies I have missed on this thread. Appreciate the tips. My contribution.

1. Marvin's and Mifune's tour de force Hell in the Pacific

And this one I suspect many of you missed too:

2. Robert Aldrich's (Jack Palance and Lee Marvin in it) Attack (1956)

EDITED:

How could I forget

3. Sidney Lumet's The Hill (1965), with Sean Connery

Love that movie too, Marvin was funny in that movie.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 7:47:24 PM

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El Alamein: the Line of Fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfSv87ZuJf4

[turn on the English subtitles]

The Desert War as seen by Italian soldiers. They built the movie using the memories of dozen of soldiers who actually fought in Africa.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 8:27:14 PM

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Is play dirty film available.?
Thanks for the links, will watch come and see, second time
A good film I watched was
Katyn Massacre with subtitles, real good made in the last ten years

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 8:31:25 PM

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By the way, just dvred a movie from Showtime called The Death of Stalin made 2017, rated R.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/18/2019 10:44:41 PM

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Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors [1945]
Japanese propoganda and the first full length anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdzrgJA_iWA

Highlights:
1:08:45 - hear the mix of repeated sound clips and PoW voice work
1:09:30 - animated arms when not enough key frames are drawn
1:09:38 - taxi taxi! - just using shouted sound clips without knowing their meaning
1:10:35 - PoW vocie work again

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/19/2019 3:05:58 PM

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Great and interesting Topic!

I won't mention many as they are already here on the boards but these are worth the viewing if you can ever get a hold of any of them:

I am more into WW2 films that deal with individuals� emotions and personality as they struggle and survive this horrible conflict. Not really on certain battles themselves even though they are or in part of the films I prefer. The Scandinavians� and Eastern Europeans tend to be masters of this genre of films.

Ivan�s Childhood: 1962
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056111/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Revolt of Job: 1983
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085767/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Stalingrad (the German version): 1993
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Run Boy Run: 2013
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1608516/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Europa Europa and the Little Drummer Boy (already mentioned on these Forums)

Ashes in the Snow: 2018
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3759298/?ref_=nv_sr_1

The 12th Man: 2017
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3300980/

The Unknown Soldier: 1985
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090215/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

Un Sac de Billes (AKA Bag of Marbles) (both the French and France/Canada remake: 1975, 2017
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0153414/?ref_=nv_sr_2
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5091612/?ref_=tt_rec_tti

My Way (a recommendation directly from these Boards when it first came out): 2011
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606384/

There are so many more but their names escape me for the time being as they more then likely still have their foreign name and I can�t recall most of them.

Not specifically 2 WW2 films but soon after (Korean War) these 2 films deserve some notoriety as they are fantastic:

Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War: 2004
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386064/

71: Into the Fire: 2010
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587729/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

If I think of any more that I really liked and finally remember the name I will be sure to add it here.

One really big disappointment for me this year (I started a tread on this a little while back) was the film �The Captain 2017�. It started off great but ran into some silliness and stupidity in the last 1 hour or so. Great concept but so poorly executed.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6763252/?ref_=nv_sr_1

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/20/2019 12:01:31 AM

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Greetings radic202,
I offer Empire of the Sun for the viewpoint of a young boy under Japanese occupation in prison camp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_WiDVA1kLY

King Rat (Stalag 17 but in Pacific Japanese prison camp)
http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/948615/King-Rat-Movie-Clip-The-British-Are-Impressed.html

The Long and the Short and the Tall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0bDV69g34

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/20/2019 12:49:31 AM

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Thanks for those recommendations rommell222, even though I have seen Empire of the Sun with Christian Bale when it first came out, I actually forgot about it. That was a fantastic film for sure.

The other 2 I will have to look into as I can't recall ever seeing them.

I do strongly recommend Bag of Marbles (any version) but "Run Boy Run" to me is a real tear jerkier and a laughter at the same time plus it has absolutely great scenery shots of the Warsaw and Danzing (Gdansk) areas where the boy seem to "have his territory of hide". Just wonderful films.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/21/2019 10:41:26 AM

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Out of all the ww2 movies i've seen, the following battle scene ranks as one of my favorites (tactically interesting situation and resolution) from 'the young lions'.
i couldn't find a clip but it starts around 11:11 through 17:17 or thereabouts. (in HD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4az9_qzIAo

also...
here's a couple clips from 'operation daybreak' (music and plot)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6gLz4jWKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaX-GgH3JwE

and finally, here's a counter to the clip from 'king rat' from 'stalag 17' (egg frying) :)

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/948338/Stalag-17-Movie-Clip-Trading-With-The-Enemy.html

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/21/2019 12:18:54 PM

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For something different, the Finnish "Unknown Soldier" from 2017 was just published on Amazon.

Based on a book written by a veteran, it covers a lot of ground, so I'd wait for the 5-part TV series version to become available. It was all filmed on a manner that they produced the two from the material done.

A deleted scene: https://youtu.be/uMSqtVxRECs

Edit: Or not deleted as such, but something that is included on the TV-series, but not on the movie version.

Thank you for pointing this movie out. Ordered today.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/21/2019 5:41:32 PM

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here's a couple clips from 'operation daybreak' (music and plot)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6gLz4jWKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaX-GgH3JwE

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And two more. The best pieces of music from the film.... One superb 70's synth and the latter, just ball bouncingly beautiful but sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhpSaQ05Nts

Hankerchiefs at the ready.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2kqHQr2GI

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/22/2019 10:47:34 AM

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I have never understood why are older war movies far better than newer ones. Good example for me Russian movie Stalingrad (2013) in comparison with German movie Stalingrad (1993). There is a huge difference.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/23/2019 6:50:11 AM

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Battleground(1949) b&w- Siege of Bastogne with Van Johnson & James Whitmore. Won Oscar for best writing & nominated for best director.
Excellent & my all time favorite war movie.

A walk in the Sun(1946)b&w-US platoon in Italy must capture farm held by Germans. Excellent movie.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/23/2019 7:44:53 AM

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First 22 min of "Saving private Ryan".

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/23/2019 11:20:23 AM

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For something different, the Finnish "Unknown Soldier" from 2017 was just published on Amazon.

Based on a book written by a veteran, it covers a lot of ground, so I'd wait for the 5-part TV series version to become available. It was all filmed on a manner that they produced the two from the material done.

A deleted scene: https://youtu.be/uMSqtVxRECs

Edit: Or not deleted as such, but something that is included on the TV-series, but not on the movie version.

Thank you for pointing this movie out. Ordered today.

The Region 1 Bluray seems to be the original 180 minutes version. I have the Region 2 Bluray, which allows also for the 135 min "international" version, that, to me, feels better focused as it mostly follows Sgt Rokka, the platoon's Sgt Steiner of the Cross of Iron alike father figure and Winter War veteran. Nothing wrong with the original either, it is how the director wanted it. It's just there's so many characters to follow, even the full three hours seems not enough. Hence my comment that I prefer the 5-part mini series to movies, as it allows more time for all characters to come alive.

For instance, the ambush snippet above is on neither movie version. It is from the beginning, it is their only third engagement with the enemy, after during the first time they pretty much got bogged down without achieving anything for their casualties, and even in the second engagement, attacking an entrenched hill, they find most Soviets had just fallen back and retreated. Then, on the snippet, they finally catch a retreating Soviet unit unaware, and get to pay back having until then been on the receiving end.

Let me know what you think once you've seen it.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 3/23/2019 9:01:53 PM

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Some great characters in Unknown Soldier book

Also those who enjoyed German Stalingrad film the book is superb aswell. Called Sta!ingrad, Loneliest Death.

Cross of Iron novel is superb aswell.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 4/9/2019 5:20:17 AM

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I also would like to mention two other unmentioned films based on true stories about the escape from captivity:

As Far As My Feet Will Carry Me (Germany,2001)
Escape From Sobibor (Russia,2018)

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RE: best WWII movies? - 4/9/2019 11:11:51 AM

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Also those who enjoyed German Stalingrad film the book is superb aswell. Called Sta!ingrad, Loneliest Death.

Thanks for the tip, reading it now on Kindle. I am in the middle of Overy's Russia's War, which could be read while watching the TV series, episode per chapter. Paints an immersive picture of Soviet Union as a society, after the Civil war towards the Barbarossa and the great patriotic war. Not just military, but politics and civil (or the lack of it) society as well.

I was just beginning to read the Stalingrad chapter there, but decided to take this sidestep at platoon scale, first.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 4/9/2019 7:47:17 PM

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I have never understood why are older war movies far better than newer ones.

Meh. There were some real dogs back in the day too. Not all of them with John Wayne, for example, have aged well.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 4/9/2019 7:53:30 PM

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Nobody's mentioned:

1. Tora! Tora! Tora!
or
2. The Longest Day
or
3. A Bridge Too Far

All very well done.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 4/10/2019 4:07:58 AM

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A lot of great films have been mentioned. Can I add the polish film Warsaw '44 (2014), about the Warsaw Uprising?
It has subtitles.

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RE: best WWII movies? - 4/10/2019 5:11:56 AM

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Maybe you know the movies about big tank battles like Kursk 1943? Or maybe there are some biographical films about German, Soviet, Allied tank aces? I guess the film about legendary Michael Wittmann is not created because he joined the SS

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