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Morning Brad,
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No problem Wayne. I thought the Abu Dhabi icon was for the International Airport. I did not Beta Test this one or I would have caught the Bateen issue months ago. The initial OOB for Bateen AB should be 16 C-130E of 50th TAS Little Rock and 5 EC-130 of 43rd ECS from Davis Monthan. I was one of many deployed Little Rock C-130 Navigators. What are you guys using for an OOB source document for your scenario development? I would love to read it!
Well, my main source, especially early on, was the internet. One reference was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_United_States_Air_Force_Units_in_the_Gulf_War which interestingly shows the base in question as Headquarters: Al Banteen Air Base, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates hence my incorrect spelling. There is a lot of "high level" information about the conflict in general but not so much when drilling down to unit details. This was one of the more informative ones. Actual callsign information is practically non-existent unless I could find someone who was actually there. This resulted in me using real callsigns for the aircraft types but not necessarily ones actually used in theater.
Initially, I had tried to include the complete Coalition complement of units and bases but quickly found that the resulting scenarios would be huge at 5+ Mb each, way too big for a campaign. So, I made a design decisions to populate bases, carriers and other things with a representative sample of appropriate aircraft. So, there are EC-130's at Banteen (Bateen). It is not 100% correct and there have to be many veterans of the conflict who will think, "Hey, this or that is not right". But, if players accept the fact that the campaign was created using Desert Shield/Storm as a foundation to build on then I think (hope) they will enjoy it.
BTW, at the time all this happened I was at Red Flag, Nellis AFB, supporting the training operations for USAF, USN, USMC and foreign fighter and support crews. I recall many of the Air Force guys stridently complaining about being stuck in the desert and missing the war!
Again, thanks for the comments,
-Wayne
Greetings Wayne,
Well, as a Desert Shield/Storm Veteran myself, on a LRS Team (in the 101st Airborne, Air Assault, LRSD) do very much appreciate the work you have done on this DLC. I was on the ground, behind enemy lines, having crossed the FLOT with my team the night before the ground war started. Granted, a ground pounding Army Infantry guy, but being on a LRS Team, our mission profile(s) have us interacting with LOTS of U.S. and allied aircraft. For Desert Storm, our insertion was on UH-60 Blackhawks with AH-64 Apaches for escort, and once on the ground and in our surveillance position, we called in several A-10 Strikes as well as some work with an AC-130 Spectre gunship. To this day, as much excitement and adrenaline that were flowing through my 19 year old self back then, I for the life of me could not tell you one call sign from those days. After 28 years on Active service, there are so many possible call signs bouncing around in my head, it's ridiculous. So, at least for this Desert Storm Veteran, some small inaccuracies and flexible story freedom in your DLC does not bother me at all. At the end of the day, I am simply happy to read and play these scenarios, and enjoy the fact that they help me refresh some of my memories from those younger days in my life. That Sir, is more than I could ever expect to ask from a game or simulation.
Cheers!
-Landon
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