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Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/6/2019 11:56:50 PM

pbiggar

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I hope someone can help me answer this. The manual makes a reference to ship fires and firestorms, but nothing that relates to base fires.

I noticed in a combat report that 2631 fires were started by ship bombardment on Davao. What exactly is burning how does this impact the unfortunate base owner? I am playing Allies vs AI in an Ironman game.

Night Naval bombardment of Davao at 79,91

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 450 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 24 destroyed on ground
A7M2 Sam: 188 damaged
A7M2 Sam: 9 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 30 damaged
E13A1b Jake: 2 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 20 damaged
L2D2 Tabby: 2 destroyed on ground
F1M2 Pete: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
BB New York
BB Arkansas
BB Arizona
BB Nevada
CA Canberra II
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans
CA Chicago
CA Portland
CL Pasadena
CL Phoenix
DD Cassin
DD Flusser
DD Warrington
DD Waller
DD The Sullivans
DD Owen
DD Morrison
DD McGowan
DD Hall
DD Fletcher
DD John W. Weeks
DD Haynsworth
DD Collett
DD Mannert Abele

Japanese ground losses:
1221 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 32 destroyed, 173 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 36 (5 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Manpower hits 28
Resources hits 6
Light Industry hits 9
Fires 2631
Airbase hits 69
Airbase supply hits 17
Runway hits 247
Port hits 35
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 4

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 12:02:46 AM

GetAssista

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Fires happen because of manpower hits and gradually die out in the subsequent turns. If fires are large enough (starting from several dozen thousand or such methinks) they can damage other industries on the base in this and subsequent turns. Manpower bombing becomes pretty effective later in the war with massed 4E raids on large cities in Japan

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 1:22:45 AM

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A bombardment, especially by BBs, can mimic the effects of a strategic raid on a city. 2631 is a number not worth worrying about. The question of concern is why you had 700+ planes on one airfield. That's just crazy. Also, I'm going to assume you didn't have the harbor mined. That's just crazier.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 1:25:44 AM

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I have to say, that is the most awe inspiring performance I've ever seen from four ancient BBs with an escort. Hubba, hubba!

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 1:40:24 AM

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Gorn, the AI piled up the aircraft. Unless it's just FOW....GP

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 2:36:03 AM

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Apologies. I was thinking the respondent was the owner of Davao. My mistake.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 5:09:56 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

A bombardment, especially by BBs, can mimic the effects of a strategic raid on a city. 2631 is a number not worth worrying about. The question of concern is why you had 700+ planes on one airfield. That's just crazy. Also, I'm going to assume you didn't have the harbor mined. That's just crazier.

Not 700 aircraft but 700 damaging hits on an unspecified number of aircraft - i.e. multiple holes in most of them.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 8:21:34 AM

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Is anybody else singing this?

The Roof Is on Fire
by Rock Master Scott & the Dynamic Three

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 4:19:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jdsrae

Is anybody else singing this?

The Roof Is on Fire
by Rock Master Scott & the Dynamic Three

No jdsrae, you're just a weird Australian living on the bottom of the world, that's all.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 4:27:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

A bombardment, especially by BBs, can mimic the effects of a strategic raid on a city. 2631 is a number not worth worrying about. The question of concern is why you had 700+ planes on one airfield. That's just crazy. Also, I'm going to assume you didn't have the harbor mined. That's just crazier.

Not 700 aircraft but 700 damaging hits on an unspecified number of aircraft - i.e. multiple holes in most of them.

Ki-700 Hole.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 4:52:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Moltrey

quote:

ORIGINAL: jdsrae

Is anybody else singing this?

The Roof Is on Fire
by Rock Master Scott & the Dynamic Three

No jdsrae, you're just a weird Australian living on the bottom of the world, that's all.

For our Aussie cousins.

<<song notes>> How can we dance while our earth is turning ; How can we sleep while our beds are burning <<song notes>>

I am almost certain Australian culture content on radio gets you enough replays of Midnight Oil.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 5:03:17 PM

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My first turn input is mostly midnight oil.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/7/2019 5:25:39 PM

pbiggar

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Thanks for the responses. I will view the fires as representing damage to the base that could potentially damage manpower or industry if they were more significant.

Mr. Gorn: Yes, I am playing against the Japanese AI in Ironman so that explains the 700+ planes lined up in neat rows for the old BB's to use for target practice. Ironman is more challenging than vanilla, but as they say, "You can't fix stupid".

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/8/2019 12:18:22 AM

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My first turn input is mostly midnight oil.

Way better than night soil.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/9/2019 9:35:40 AM

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You guys remember when a ship carrying cargo, such as supplies or oils? If that ship get hit pretty hard, it will starts fire pretty easy and can sink it.

Same for the bases, there are so many things at the base can catch on fire.

IMO, if I had that many planes at the coastal port, with a large airfield, would have mined it, like 750+.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/9/2019 7:58:02 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun

You guys remember when a ship carrying cargo, such as supplies or oils? If that ship get hit pretty hard, it will starts fire pretty easy and can sink it.

Same for the bases, there are so many things at the base can catch on fire.

IMO, if I had that many planes at the coastal port, with a large airfield, would have mined it, like 750+.

I think he mentioned that the AI is the opponent and it does not do a good job of comprehensive defence.

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RE: Can someone tell me what is on fire? - 8/9/2019 11:27:42 PM

Rising-Sun

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun

You guys remember when a ship carrying cargo, such as supplies or oils? If that ship get hit pretty hard, it will starts fire pretty easy and can sink it.

Same for the bases, there are so many things at the base can catch on fire.

IMO, if I had that many planes at the coastal port, with a large airfield, would have mined it, like 750+.

I think he mentioned that the AI is the opponent and it does not do a good job of comprehensive defence.

Ah I just noticed it, cant believe how bad the AI can be.

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