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OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 9:48:49 AM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 9:54:59 AM   
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I hope.

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 9:59:39 AM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 10:02:48 AM   
jdsrae


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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

I believe 1st turn bonus move for KB can cover that distance


I probably should have posted this in the "this game is borked" thread, seeing as the game is set 10 years too late and the "supposed" historical route of the KB would have fallen off the edge of the flat earth!


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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 10:04:02 AM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 10:06:32 AM   
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First refuel in Vichy's Madagascar or Vichy's Kerguelen Islands

Second refuel in neutral Argentina

No one saw this coming

Hence the Dec 7 surprise

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 10:19:09 AM   
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Apparently 3 years ago a lot of people took this joke and the humorous group it was part of rather seriously, which is kind of disturbing in itself.



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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 10:58:55 AM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 12:44:10 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 1:46:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jdsrae

This was a new one that gave me a laugh, but then I realised there are probably people who believe it...



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I'm not so sure. I've checked the range of the Japanese ships and a Japanese Zero and - even with refuelling - this looks a tall order. I wonder why this hasn't been picked up by historians before?

But while I agree that there is something fishy about the original version we've been told for 80 years, I don't think this was an inside job by the Americans.

I suspect the British and the malevolent hand of Churchill is at play here. I further suspect that the British allowed their bases at Singapore, Ceylon, East Africa, South Africa, and Canada to refuel and replenish the Japanese task force to allow for an attack.

The rationale is simple. This helps get the US in the war - a stated aim of Churchill from day 1.

I think we've blown this one apart. The historians who've sold us a pup for 80-years all have egg on their faces now.


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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 1:51:15 PM   
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Edit to add: And did Babylon Bee fact check Snopes' fact check?

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 2:10:21 PM   
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it was not the Japanese




Blutto was right! It was Germans dressed in Japanese uniforms, flying German planes painted with the rising sun. They were part of a German-American airshow that mysteriously disappeared from California, under the command of Charles Lindbergh and Eddie Rickenbacker.

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 2:21:17 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 4:30:47 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/24/2019 4:48:14 PM   
Yaab


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In 1931, only the great Italian fascist Italo Balbo could have flown this distance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decennial_Air_Cruise

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/25/2019 2:17:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

I believe 1st turn bonus move for KB can cover that distance



Best post all day.


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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/25/2019 2:20:35 AM   
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Even China looks like it could fit into Greenland.


We should offer to buy it!

ETA 1: Greenland, not China.

ETA 2: Oh. Never mind...

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/25/2019 3:48:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

I believe 1st turn bonus move for KB can cover that distance



Best post all day.


KB could strike Berlin in some mods...

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/30/2019 9:17:27 PM   
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In 1931, only the great Italian fascist Italo Balbo could have flown this distance.


Greenland is huge, the reason Trump wants to buy it.

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/30/2019 9:34:13 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/30/2019 9:49:26 PM   
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Truman wanted it first.

So Thule AFB isn't a rent-to-own arrangement? Pity.

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/30/2019 11:00:00 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/31/2019 2:40:07 AM   
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It is not, the US did not buy Greenland but made some special deals. I knew someone who helped build Thule AFB.

He should have built more hangar space for visiting aircraft! Our C-130 came in at dusk from temps around -70ºF at altitude. The aircraft skin was very cold and Thule had some fog moving in from the sea. No hangar space was available so the aircraft sat on the tarmack.

When we went to get the aircraft ready for departure at around 5:00 AM, the aircraft was covered with ice, about a half inch thick on the wings. The fog had disappeared but the ice was not going to leave soon so we had to get up on the wings and very carefully use the head of floor brooms to tap the ice until it cracked and broke off. All the while our foothold was very tenuous and several times we almost had someone slip off. Do you know how big the surface of a C-130 wing is!

An hour or so into the process a US aircraft left the nice warm hangar and our C-130 was towed in. We still had to bang away for a couple of hours but the warmth helped weaken the ice and eventually it sloughed off in large sections. So we eventually were able to depart several hours late on our four hour trip to Alert, but the delay meant we could no longer come back to Thule after and had to fly a very long day to Trenton - another 13 hours. We exceeded some crew duty limits there!

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/31/2019 11:27:59 AM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/31/2019 5:33:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dili

Just found this old lady was at Pearl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Baltimore_(C-3)

Interesting! Does anyone know what a "receiving ship" does?

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/31/2019 5:38:07 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 8/31/2019 9:03:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dili

Just found this old lady was at Pearl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Baltimore_(C-3)

Interesting! Does anyone know what a "receiving ship" does?
warspite1

Takes it up the ..... er sorry my mind was wandering.....


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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 9/2/2019 4:40:13 PM   
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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 9/2/2019 4:43:31 PM   
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It was devistating as they also hit hanger 19 were the alien space ship was that we were deconstruction so we had to use bulleta instead of lasers.

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RE: OT: Latest PH conspiracy theory - 9/3/2019 10:53:42 AM   
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