Not much discussion about last weekend, then. But it figures, Bottas 2.0 is a rather boring person. I guess they should continue to focus on Iceman 6.0 instead. Too bad the new Alfa Romeo doesn't seem to be what the early testing results sort of promised it to be.
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Not much discussion about last weekend, then. But it figures, Bottas 2.0 is a rather boring person. I guess they should continue to focus on Iceman 6.0 instead. Too bad the new Alfa Romeo doesn't seem to be what the early testing results sort of promised it to be.
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I think it's difficult to tell how good or bad the Alfa is given the driver line-up. I could just about understand employing Kimi if put alongside a real hot-shoe, but there is nothing in Giovanazzi's previous performances to suggest that is the case - and nothing this year so far either.
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Its been a really long time now. Several years, in fact. Does the season ever arrive? Or is it like a end of the world thingie? The end is near, but not just yet. Maybe tomorrow. Although that tomorrow doesn't seem to arrive.
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I did not have a chance to watch the race today. Seems Bottas 2.0 was downgraded to Bottas 1.5?
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My feeling is that Valtieri is driving really well at the moment. But the huge gap in qualifying really hurt Lewis - even though he had some mitigants. Lewis just drove as though he was going to make up for it. To be TWO SECONDS faster than anyone else on the first lap after the safety car says a lot about his state of mind. So I would not blame Bottas as much as hail Lewis' performance today.
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I did not have a chance to watch the race today. Seems Bottas 2.0 was downgraded to Bottas 1.5?
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My feeling is that Valtieri is driving really well at the moment. But the huge gap in qualifying really hurt Lewis - even though he had some mitigants. Lewis just drove as though he was going to make up for it. To be TWO SECONDS faster than anyone else on the first lap after the safety car says a lot about his state of mind. So I would not blame Bottas as much as hail Lewis' performance today.
Lewis quite something isn't he. Hopefully he continues for a good few years, so whoever will be the Next Big Thing will have to race him.
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I did not have a chance to watch the race today. Seems Bottas 2.0 was downgraded to Bottas 1.5?
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My feeling is that Valtieri is driving really well at the moment. But the huge gap in qualifying really hurt Lewis - even though he had some mitigants. Lewis just drove as though he was going to make up for it. To be TWO SECONDS faster than anyone else on the first lap after the safety car says a lot about his state of mind. So I would not blame Bottas as much as hail Lewis' performance today.
Lewis quite something isn't he. Hopefully he continues for a good few years, so whoever will be the Next Big Thing will have to race him.
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The next big thing is already here.... make no mistake, Max Verstappen is (all things being equal) going to be a multiple world champion and - given his age - all records are there for the taking. He is a truly special driver.
Charles Leclerc meanwhile is showing a good turn of speed. He's making a lot of mistakes at the moment but that can be forgiven given that he is so young and inexperienced. Furthermore, because he drives for the Prancing Horse, his errors are magnified.
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I did not have a chance to watch the race today. Seems Bottas 2.0 was downgraded to Bottas 1.5?
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My feeling is that Valtieri is driving really well at the moment. But the huge gap in qualifying really hurt Lewis - even though he had some mitigants. Lewis just drove as though he was going to make up for it. To be TWO SECONDS faster than anyone else on the first lap after the safety car says a lot about his state of mind. So I would not blame Bottas as much as hail Lewis' performance today.
Lewis quite something isn't he. Hopefully he continues for a good few years, so whoever will be the Next Big Thing will have to race him.
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The next big thing is already here.... make no mistake, Max Verstappen is (all things being equal) going to be a multiple world champion and - given his age - all records are there for the taking. He is a truly special driver.
Charles Leclerc meanwhile is showing a good turn of speed. He's making a lot of mistakes at the moment but that can be forgiven given that he is so young and inexperienced. Furthermore, because he drives for the Prancing Horse, his errors are magnified.
I'd go with Verstappen as well. In addition to his skills he's got the, what's should I call it, well sheer arrogance that seems to be required to stay at the very top there.
Astrologers believe that your future is determined on the day that you are born. Warriors know that your future is determined on the day that your enemy dies.
A remarkable man - he redefined the words courage and single mindedness - and a great driver. Sadly this hasn't come as a surprise. His continued absence from the Mercedes garage confirmed something was clearly not right following his major operation last year. But this is still a shock - Niki was in F1 when I became interested in the sport and for a long time - on and off - afterwards. Sad day.
RIP - Niki Lauda
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However, I guess that Mercedes couldn't just radio Lewis and tell him, "If you drive your usual pace with Verstappen right behind you, then Max will end up more than his 5 penalty seconds ahead of Bottas and we lose the other podium." I was surprised that no one connected those dots.
Leb' wohl, Nikki!
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Disgraceful decision by the stewards in Montreal. Let the racers race.
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Ferrari's case (apparently not an appeal??) will be heard today. Not sure how that is possible but there you go. I am afraid I have absolutely no confidence in the FIA. If Lewis is allowed to keep his Canadian GP win I will be very surprised....
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Ferrari's case (apparently not an appeal??) will be heard today. Not sure how that is possible but there you go. I am afraid I have absolutely no confidence in the FIA. If Lewis is allowed to keep his Canadian GP win I will be very surprised....
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...phew I shouldn't have doubted the FIA - apparently Ferrari came to the meeting without any new evidence..... they really are doing themselves no favours...
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Lawyers should not decide race results. Even if the call was spot on, the Stewards should have shown respect for the process and not announced the decision until well after the race. Lewis put himself too close to Vettel when he re-entered the track, forcing the call. If the cars had collided and both been out of the points, I'm quite sure that Toto would have asked Lewis what he was doing. It doesn't look like it will matter ultimately, but should Lewis win the Championship by less than 7 points over Vettel...
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Lawyers should not decide race results. Even if the call was spot on, the Stewards should have shown respect for the process and not announced the decision until well after the race. Lewis put himself too close to Vettel when he re-entered the track, forcing the call. If the cars had collided and both been out of the points, I'm quite sure that Toto would have asked Lewis what he was doing. It doesn't look like it will matter ultimately, but should Lewis win the Championship by less than 7 points over Vettel...
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100% agree that race results need to be decided at the time - not in the court room.
But we will have to agree to disagree on the apportioning of blame for the near accident. Lewis was not responsible for covering up for Seb's mistake. Seb was responsible for rejoining the track safely. And he didn't.
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Hey. I am new to this forum. I love to watch F1. It was a great weekend in France, and I congratulate the Mercedes team on their victory. Unfortunately, Vettel again under pressure could not show a good race but Leclerc did a really good job and I hope he will be next champion in couple years
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Hey. I am new to this forum. I love to watch F1. It was a great weekend in France, and I congratulate the Mercedes team on their victory. Unfortunately, Vettel again under pressure could not show a good race but Leclerc did a really good job and I hope he will be next champion in couple years
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Seb will surely walk away at the end of the season? On pure speed Leclerc has him beaten. Only the inexperience of youth has seen Leclerc come of worse overall this season. If he can iron out those errors Charles will be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years.
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Hey. I am new to this forum. I love to watch F1. It was a great weekend in France, and I congratulate the Mercedes team on their victory. Unfortunately, Vettel again under pressure could not show a good race but Leclerc did a really good job and I hope he will be next champion in couple years
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Seb will surely walk away at the end of the season? On pure speed Leclerc has him beaten. Only the inexperience of youth has seen Leclerc come of worse overall this season. If he can iron out those errors Charles will be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years.
Thanks for the warm greeting. It is nice to hear that someone support my idea I hope we will see some battle between Hamilton and Verstappen or Leclerc for example because it is boring to see battle only between Mercedes teammates.
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Well that was exciting!! After the bore fest that was the French Grand Prix, the Austrian race could not have been more different. Great drive from Max, Leclerc drove well also but that first win (that he should have got in Bahrain) remains elusive. Lewis and Valteri drove well in challenging circumstances for the Mercs. With Europe suffering from a severe heatwave, Mercedes need to sort their cooling problems pronto or they may have more of this type of race ahead.....
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Gasly sacked and demoted to Toro Rosso! Well Red Bull didn't give him much time did they? Although I suppose being lapped by your team mate in two races this season wasn't a positive....
I must say I don't envy the task Alex Albon has on his hands as team mate to Max....
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Just watched a decent half hour program from BBC Wales about the late Tom Pryce - the only Welshman to have won an F1 race (albeit a non-championship one) - and his tragic demise in the ill-fated South African Grand Prix in 1977. Available on BBC iplayer under the name Mavericks The Lost Heroes.
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