Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: t001001001

Thank you, 2T.

A division camping on a rail has no effect. Partizans will break rail right next to the division commander's office, right in his face, and he won't notice it will he.

This breaks the game. I spend turns of planning and doing all I can to ensure logistics will not be interrupted, then a rail line is cut arbitrarily. This is very annoying.

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ORIGINAL: t001001001

A rail was cut right in the face of a division requisitioned and posted there specifically to prevent that from happening. In that hex. I won't try to refund the game. But I did throw up my hands in disgust and rage quit. Will wait patiently for this to get fixed

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ORIGINAL: Uxbridge

I'm trying to figure out partisans as well. Doesn't the protection from partisans mean that the hex adjacent to a combat unit protects from the creation of an actual partisan unit, but not rail cutting?

And my question is: when one sees a partisan affected hex, does negligence to move there increase the likelyhood of an unit being created?

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ORIGINAL: t001001001

Thank you, 2T.

A division camping on a rail has no effect. Partizans will break rail right next to the division commander's office, right in his face, and he won't notice it will he.

This breaks the game. I spend turns of planning and doing all I can to ensure logistics will not be interrupted, then a rail line is cut arbitrarily. This is very annoying.

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ORIGINAL: t001001001

A rail was cut right in the face of a division requisitioned and posted there specifically to prevent that from happening. In that hex. I won't try to refund the game. But I did throw up my hands in disgust and rage quit. Will wait patiently for this to get fixed

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ORIGINAL: Werewolf13

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ORIGINAL: t001001001

A rail was cut right in the face of a division requisitioned and posted there specifically to prevent that from happening. In that hex. I won't try to refund the game. But I did throw up my hands in disgust and rage quit. Will wait patiently for this to get fixed

You want the game designers to fix something that isn't broke?

Ahhhh - geeez.

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ORIGINAL: MOS96B2P

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ORIGINAL: Werewolf13

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ORIGINAL: t001001001

A rail was cut right in the face of a division requisitioned and posted there specifically to prevent that from happening. In that hex. I won't try to refund the game. But I did throw up my hands in disgust and rage quit. Will wait patiently for this to get fixed

You want the game designers to fix something that isn't broke?

Ahhhh - geeez.

But if you read any of the thread up above you would see that it is not working as designed when partisans blow up track in the ZOC of a land unit. Alvaro Sousa is the game developer and explained how it works about four posts up. I think it has been made to work as intended now which is: no partisan activity within the ZOC of a land unit.

Now the Germans have a reason to take units off the front line and guard their logistics. I bought the game upon release and can say this dilemma of pulling troops out of the line to guard against partisan attacks works very well in the game.

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ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

Should be working right in v31

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ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

Any land unit will protect it's own hex and the 6 hexes around it from Partisan attacks.

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ORIGINAL: Werewolf13

Why gamey - It is extremely difficult for any army of regulars to completely shut down partisans. It just cannot be done.

1) Partisans are irregulars, they blend in with the locals - they are the locals.
2) They operate in small groups.
3) They can be where the enemy isn't relatively easy.
4) They can and do negatively impact enemy morale - especially so in rear areas with garrison quality troops.
5) Considering the hex size and time scale of Warplan it seems a bit over reaching for any military force to be able to completely nullify the impact of a local partisan presence and definitely not to include the surrounding 6.

To use the example that the OP was having issues with - targets like rail lines can be taken out fairly easily by partisans and with relatively low risk - see my response to the OP. Of course in this example the rail line could be repaired in days if not hours. Could the same be true of roads blown up, electric plants destroyed, high ranking officer asassinated, troops killed while visiting the local ladies of the evening. The list goes on and on. Partisans need to be represented and represented in a way that negatively impacts enemy operations.

Partisans don't always win wars but they can add a level of difficulty that can and does impact the enemy's abilty to fight as effectively as they could.

I provide as relatively contemporary examples: In WW2 - the French, the russians, the viet minh in Vietnam against the French. Post WWII - the afghans and the vietcong. Palestinians in Israel. Isis - I'm sure their are others.

And the grand daddy of 'em all - Americans in our Revolutionary War.

As much as gamers hate RNG - for me the perfect solution would be to use an RNG modified by what ever variables seem appropriate so that partisan activity be represented by both a morale reduction and a logistical hit for any enemy forces in the hex. If the hex is a supply source then the supplies of units depending on that source should also be impacted.

2nd - partisans aren't universal so concentrations of them could be represented by them with counters pointing out their presence. The presence of enemy forces could be one of the variables that reduces the impact of the partisan presence.