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Which games will be translated - 7/9/2003 3:46:05 AM   
JeF


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Status: offline 		Hello,

I noticed the vacant positions for translators.
I always assumed Matrix Games releases english only games. Now a couple of questions cross my mind :

Which games will be translated ?
In which language ? (we already had a glimpse of a french screenshot of Battlefiled!)
Which part of the games will be translated ? The tutorial, the gmae UI, the full manual, all of the above ?

Thanks,

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*BUMP* - 7/12/2003 3:24:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't the question deserve an answer ?

JeF.

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- 7/14/2003 8:54:19 AM   
Ross Moorhouse


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Status: offline 		When we decide on who we are going to hire and what langauges they can do then we will decide on what games we want translated.

It also depends on what sales of simlar games are like in a country. So market forces will also dictate what gets translated.

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- 7/14/2003 9:13:06 AM   
Ian Packham

 

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Status: offline 		Well obviously LC will do the French translation, Marc the German translation and Ross the Aussie translation. He wouldn't give a XXXX for anything else.:)

PS I'm not a complaining Pom just a tight-arsed Jock!:cool:

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- 7/14/2003 3:40:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Ross do you guys realize that most finns speak and read Swedish??? I'm not saying you should not translate into finnish (great people, I like them a lot) but Swedish would fix two hardcore wargaming countries...oh the Danes/Norweigans can read Swedish too!:)

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- 7/14/2003 6:38:17 PM   
U2


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"Language: Finnish & Swedish"

For all those that does not know

Swedish is a language that Finns also speak, we the Swedes do not understand Finnish.

Both Danish and Norweigan is related to Swedish so we can talk to each other and read books in all three languages.

The ONLY language non of us Scandinavians can even remotely understand is Finnish, except for the nice Finns of course :)

So it is beyond me why Battlefront.com has a Finnish speaking opponent forum:D Should be Swedish/Danish/Norweigan AND Finnish, for the ones who feel comfortable with that, but I do not expect an American company to know much about distant Scandinavia.....
This way four nations could communicate instead of one

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- 7/15/2003 2:45:26 AM   
JeF


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Status: offline 		Ross,

Thanks for the answer.

It's clear now. "First let's see what we can do with the people we have at hand, ..." ;)
And "no promise until we have a clear view." Sounds safe for a small company like MatrixGames.

Cheers,

JeF.

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- 7/15/2003 3:32:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Indeed JeF. Eventhough they might not get all languages listed or all games translated it is a nice gesture from such a small company and that Battlefront now have non English forums. I guess it helps expand the wargaming crowd too, English is not spoken by all of us.

Hope it goes well with getting good people for the jobs :)

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- 7/15/2003 3:44:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by U2
[B]Hey Ross do you guys realize that most finns speak and read Swedish??? I'm not saying you should not translate into finnish (great people, I like them a lot) but Swedish would fix two hardcore wargaming countries...oh the Danes/Norweigans can read Swedish too!:) [/B][/QUOTE]

NOOOOOooooooo!!!! Finns don't want to read Swedish manuals or play games that have Swedish language in them (excluding Swedish speaking minority ofcourse, hehe).

And I'm not kidding. :p

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- 7/15/2003 3:46:40 AM   
U2


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[B]

And I'm not kidding. :p [/B][/QUOTE]

I know:)

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- 7/15/2003 3:47:18 AM   
JJKettunen


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So it is beyond me why Battlefront.com has a Finnish speaking opponent forum:D [/B][/QUOTE]

How about the fact that CMBO sold more copies in Finland than in other Scandinawian countries and Britain combined?

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- 7/15/2003 3:52:18 AM   
U2


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Keke
[B]How about the fact that CMBO sold more copies in Finland than in other Scandinawian countries and Britain combined? [/B][/QUOTE]

I am not denying that...but why exclude scandinavians that can communicate with the nice Finns? Some of my best opponents are Finns. It feels like they could achive even more with a combined forum for us Scandinavians. If they ever try it here at Matrix I think it would be very nice...what do you think?

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- 7/15/2003 3:57:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by U2
[B]I am not denying that...but why exclude scandinavians that can communicate with the nice Finns? Some of my best opponents are Finns. It feels like they could achive even more with a combined forum for us Scandinavians. If they ever try it here at Matrix I think it would be very nice...what do you think? [/B][/QUOTE]

The problem is that Finns prefer English when communicating with other Scandinavians...

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- 7/15/2003 3:59:43 AM   
U2


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Keke
[B]The problem is that Finns prefer English when communicating with other Scandinavians... [/B][/QUOTE]

And so do I when my Finnish opponents ask if we should write in Swedish. However there are people with not good enough english abilities in all four contries and I was thinking of them :)

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- 7/15/2003 2:48:27 PM   
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[B]And so do I when my Finnish opponents ask if we should write in Swedish. However there are people with not good enough english abilities in all four contries and I was thinking of them :) [/B][/QUOTE]

Why do you prefer English to your native language? I have noticed that this is quite normal for Swedes communicating with Finns. On the other hand, Norwegians seem to speak norwegian when they visit Finland.

Personally I like to have my games in English. The translations I have seen so far, have been terrible attempts.

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- 7/15/2003 2:58:23 PM   
U2


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nyrkki
[B]Why do you prefer English to your native language? I have noticed that this is quite normal for Swedes communicating with Finns. On the other hand, Norwegians seem to speak norwegian when they visit Finland.

Personally I like to have my games in English. The translations I have seen so far, have been terrible attempts. [/B][/QUOTE]

Ah I can see why you are wondering:)

It's just because I am in love with the English language and have been so since I first came into contact with it. I love to write/speak/read (I buy all of my books in English from the USA) and communicate in English. It's a passion of mine as is wargaming and I try to improve myself everyday since I want to keep my high level of oral and written abilities.

Edit: look I even dropped by this post to correct two spelling errors! I always do that :D

So as you can guess I personally would NEVER buy a translated game but we have to realize that in many countries some fans of wargaming do not have a high standard of English and Wargames are complex enough :)

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- 7/15/2003 6:15:03 PM   
Nyrkki

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by U2
[B]Ah I can see why you are wondering:)

It's just because I am in love with the English language and have been so since I first came into contact with it. I love to write/speak/read (I buy all of my books in English from the USA) and communicate in English. It's a passion of mine as is wargaming and I try to improve myself everyday since I want to keep my high level of oral and written abilities.

Edit: look I even dropped by this post to correct two spelling errors! I always do that :D

So as you can guess I personally would NEVER buy a translated game but we have to realize that in many countries some fans of wargaming do not have a high standard of English and Wargames are complex enough :) [/B][/QUOTE]

Ok, nothing wrong with that, it's just sad that Finns don't get many opportunities to practice their skills in swedish. All kids in Finland read swedish as a compulsory language at school, but with no practice, except an occasional ferry trip to Stockholm, most tend to forget wath they learned.

I shouldn't blame you Swedes though, because Finland´s swedish speaking minority doesn't help much. It's easier to switch to finnish (in which almost all swedish-finns are fluent in) than to speak swedish with a person who has finnish as mother tongue.

I agree with you that translated games bring a lot new fans into wargaming. The translation has to be of good quality, though. A word for word translation just isn't good enough.

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- 7/15/2003 6:40:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by U2
[B]Hey Ross do you guys realize that most finns speak and read Swedish??? [/B][/QUOTE]
They do??:confused:

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- 7/15/2003 6:43:50 PM   
U2


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zakhal
[B]They do??:confused: [/B][/QUOTE]

It's a well kept secret, you have just not been told yet;)

I should not have written as if EVERYONE does. My mistake.

There is nothing like a new Finnish PM being interviewed by Swedish TV and the classic question comes "Do you speak Swedish?" And they say in an almost perfect Swedish accent with that Finnish touch to it "Not very good":)

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