Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

I would greatly appreciate it if the Threadsters and forumites could take a moment a list some of the characteristics of people who have been their best opponents. What do you cherish in a opposite number? Thank you in advance.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Somebody who drinks at least how much I do.


And who gets pleasure from "stuff exploding", without thinking too much who is the owner.



A lot of strategic thoughts, possibly to share to some extent, but a general pleasure in the game whatever happens. I laughed a lot when recently I got 20k japanese killed in one attack I was doing in China. I got the same pleasure when the next turn 30k Chinese died in the same place during a second attack. My adversary the same. That's why I like playing with him.



Also, having roughly the same game knowledge helps a lot.



Last, but not least at all, the fantasy put in the game is something I really enjoy. I like people who are not predictable at all and when they fight, they fight hard. It makes every turn thrilling.


Of course, many players have a different approach. I am talking about what I do like in an enemy.



I can say also what I don't like:
1 - people willing to f@ck you continuously so that the game looks like the compliance I have to do for donors in my daily work...
2 - people recriminating for everything which they don't like (such as "ahhhh you bombed my newly conquered Miri with your Dutch bombers, YOU ARE AHISTORICAL AND GAMEY WE NEED HR!!!!!!" and stuff like that.
3 - cheaters / people not following HRs

More than everything, people who do their own magnificient plan in their minds and then they get angry and quit when you don't do something they expected. For example, I got a guy who fortified Noumea and company from day-1. He created a mega ultra super Maginot line there.
His idea was to bounce my offensive in the place and counterattack.

I instead conquered China and went for N-W Australia surprising him. His perfect plan failed miserably. Accused me of being gamey (after he didn't comply to HRs, btw!!!) and he left.
These players are to avoid completely. Once somebody starts with the cry of "you are a-historical!", raise your guard and open a thread in the "opponents wanted" area. That's my advice.
Of course, some completely foolish a-historical things can be somehow bad in many's eyes. I'm not speaking of that, I am speaking of little things driving the adversary mad with no reason.

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It's like a second job

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For games in general - creativity and playing for the process more than the result. Guys that would sacrifice fun for the ultimate winning are boring.

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ORIGINAL: sh0nyu

Well I think both opponents must be fair in their style. On the other hand it is nice to have a stubborn opponent not willing to give up if his strategy does not develop properly.

I take part in a game as Allied Commander. We had a heavy carrier battle near Milne Bay on Dec 27th 1941. This battle developed accidently because the Japanese Player took Ambon and Namlea really early. Since he already took Rabaul and Kavieng he decided to pass Torres Strait with a two carrier group. I managed to ambush his force with CAs and CLs and was able to damage Shokaku (heavy damage, heavy fires). Then my cruiser force was mauled heavy by his aircraft and heavy escorts. Since the US carriers were near by I tried to intrecept his heavy escort (thought the carriers were hurrying to Rabaul). First I got a heavy attack from his carrier aircraft. Result: two bomb hits (250kg)on Saratoga (one no explosion), one hit on Lex (60kg) - no more damage than 6 points sys on Saratoga and 4 sys on Lex... pure luck!

The American carrier force retaliated and managed to hit Zuikaku (heavy fires, heavy damage), Ryujo (heavy fires, heavy damage, Ammo Storage) and Zuiho (on fire). We made some more turns and my opponent discovers that he had serious difficulties with the Japanese economy (first time player for Japan).

Long story short: I suggested that we go on until the holidays and he may consider if he wants to start over. I had a really good start and I know he will not make the same mistake twice (unfortunatelly). But The game is a long time engagement - and I would like to see both opponents having fun with this game. He took just half an hour to answer: No, we are going on.

That's what I mean. My opponent is stubborn enough to suffer the consequences of his mistakes (same with me) and I think it is good to give him the possibility to exit out and start over during an early stage of the game. Okay... sorry for this wall of text, just my 2 ct ;)

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ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

I'm still in the workforce so for now I look for an opponent that is fine with turns being a little spotty. But someday I'm gunna retire from the workforce and become a professional gamer - lol.

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It's like a second job

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But someday I'm gunna retire from the workforce and become a professional gamer - lol.

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Some one who NEVER quits, even when I am sieging Tokyo.

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ORIGINAL: dasboot1960

I would think it an honorable enough Japanese capitulation if Tokyo were under siege. Not at all like quitting at the first sign of impending doom. I think I'd be more than happy with any IJ oppo who played that far

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The thread starter never said anything about PBEM.

I'm obviously referring to the AI here folks.

The AI can be counted on to never quit.

Best opponent ever.

I'm sieging Tokyo now in March of 1946.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Yeah, but the discussion had got into when a player in PBEM can call it quits and your previous comment seemed to say you would want an opponent to stick with it until Tokyo was taken. I was just saying I can see why that would be interesting to play out. I understand your AI hasn't quit yet and it's still a tough grind. I do want to see your progress and battle post-mortem for that interesting situation.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The thread starter never said anything about PBEM.

I'm obviously referring to the AI here folks.

The AI can be counted on to never quit.

Best opponent ever.

I'm sieging Tokyo now in March of 1946.

Yeah, but the discussion had got into when a player in PBEM can call it quits and your previous comment seemed to say you would want an opponent to stick with it until Tokyo was taken. I was just saying I can see why that would be interesting to play out. I understand your AI hasn't quit yet and it's still a tough grind. I do want to see your progress and battle post-mortem for that interesting situation.

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ORIGINAL: dasboot1960

I have too much would