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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/12/2019 5:40:14 AM

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Good point on the nav search. I also use Aussie and Kiwi Hudsons for nav search since there never seem to be enough PBYs.

No profound thoughts on what your opponent may be doing. I've seen AARs where the IJ player goes for a January 1, 1943 auto-victory, and one way is to do strategic bombing in Australia to rack up points. Is he doing that or does it look like he's setting up for a bombing campaign? Have you had any discussion with him on auto-vic?

EDIT: This might be a good time to show us the screen with the victory points.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/15/2019 4:40:13 PM

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Good point on the nav search. I also use Aussie and Kiwi Hudsons for nav search since there never seem to be enough PBYs.

No profound thoughts on what your opponent may be doing. I've seen AARs where the IJ player goes for a January 1, 1943 auto-victory, and one way is to do strategic bombing in Australia to rack up points. Is he doing that or does it look like he's setting up for a bombing campaign? Have you had any discussion with him on auto-vic?

EDIT: This might be a good time to show us the screen with the victory points.

Cheers,
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We have not discussed auto victory. He's below 3:1 right now, so he would really need to take it to us over the next 7 months for that to be a possibility. No strategic bombing of any sort as yet.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/15/2019 4:46:06 PM

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April 25, 1942

The KB moves north, a surprise, and hits our airfield at Charters Towers:

Afternoon Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 91
B5N1 Kate x 16
B5N2 Kate x 152
D3A1 Val x 108

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 15 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 107 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
Wirraway: 46 damaged
Wirraway: 6 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 21 damaged
Hudson I: 4 destroyed on ground
P-400 Airacobra: 36 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 3 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 23 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 5 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 112 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 29 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 3 damaged
O-47A: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 14
Runway hits 82

Afternoon Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
D3A1 Val x 17

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 7 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 3 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground
Wirraway: 3 damaged
Wirraway: 1 destroyed on ground
P-400 Airacobra: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D3A1 Val bombing from 1000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N2 Kate x 17

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 5 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Wirraway: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 5 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 3 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Ouch. 57 aircraft of various types were destroyed. Airfield wasn't overstacked or anything. Reminder of how effective the KB can be.
We move most of the damaged planes out via rail to Townsville and Cloncurry.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/15/2019 9:15:06 PM

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April 26, 1942

This is pretty stupid on my part...trusting the AI routing on a fuel convoy moving from Colombo to Perth and we get bushwhacked by Betties from Port Blair:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Koggala at 29,57

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Jumna, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Modjekerto, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Malancha, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sloterdijk, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Enemy TFs operating up in the Bering Sea. We fly an ineffectual raid with PBYs from Dutch Harbor.
BB Nevada heads out from Seattle. I promise to stay out of range of LBA this time.

Follow up strike by the KB nets another 14 damaged planes at Charters Towers.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/15/2019 10:15:06 PM

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April 27, 1942

He's really playing us well in NE Oz. Presumably guessing we might rail planes to Townsville he bombards with two CAs...luckily we don't lose any planes to this.

I-3 attacks our CV TF near Wellington, NZ. He didn't sight the CVs, but that escort combo kinds of screams CV TF, I think. He must at least suspect.

ASW attack near Wellington at 112,193

Japanese Ships
SS I-3, hits 1

Allied Ships
CA San Francisco
CA Chicago
CL Nashville
CL Phoenix
DD Farragut
DD Porter
DD Le Triomphant
DD Monaghan
DD Dale
DD Hull

KB disappears to the east.

He begins raiding Chungking, but it's not effective.

We try to intercept Oscars and Sallies raiding Akyab with P-39s from Chittagong, but it doens't work and we lose 7 planes.

The IJA 56th Div continues its push into the Chinese mountains, capturing Paoshan. We begin concentrating forces at Tsuyung in response.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/15/2019 10:37:50 PM

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You are approaching a period where you can start discerning the extent of the Japanese expansion, especially now that the landing bonus for his troops are gone. Your carrier strength will pack a decent punch in a little bit, with the Wasp arriving soon enough. How do you plan to start pushing back (and where) and creating enough friction that can force your opponent into making a mistake?

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/15/2019 10:59:20 PM

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You are approaching a period where you can start discerning the extent of the Japanese expansion, especially now that the landing bonus for his troops are gone. You're carrier strength will pack a decent punch in a little bit, with the Wasp arriving soon enough. How do you plan to start pushing back (and where) and creating enough friction that can force your opponent into making a mistake?

This is a good question. At present I feel like we're solidly positioned in most key areas:
-Pago Pago is 250 AV+ with Lvl 4 forts
-Christmas I. is over 200 AV with Lvl 5 forts
It would take a massive commitment of resources on his part to make a push in on this axis, particularly with the amphib bonus expiring.

We have strong forces entrenching on the Burmese border with Chittagong, Imphal and Ledo all well garrisoned and fortifying.

China isn't great, but that has a lot do with him committing five unrestricted divisions. If that results in Chungking falling in the spring of '43 I think we can live with it.

We might be moderately vulnerable in the North Pacific, but we have two well entrenched and supplied regiments at Kodiak...and he hasn't even taken Dutch Harbor yet.

We are vulnerable if he were to make a concerted push for Ceylon, Perth or NZ, but it's quite late in the game to go for something like that, I think. And in the case of the later two we'd have plenty of warning.

Eastern Australia seems to be emerging as the key battleground, and I think we're well positioned. We have 1,000 AV, including the Aus 7th Div, behind Lvl 4 forts and well supplied at Townsville. It would take a a long siege and a big commitment from the IJA to dislodge that, I believe.

I think we can contain the forces from Rockhampton...we have the 2nd and 6th Aus Divs moving into position at Bundaberg. The US Americal divisions is ferrying over from NZ and we have several US Army regiments inbound as well. I just don't think the math adds up for him here unless he significantly increases his commitment.

As far as what he's doing...he's built the heck out of Luganville. I'm pretty sure it's his main fleet base. Most of his naval assets seem to be in SoPac. We have accounted for most of his divisions (see below) so it's hard for me to see how he's going to assemble a serious offensive without some major rearrangement of his forces. My guess is he's not targeting any sort of auto vic situation and is trying to prepare himself for a long defensive war.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 12:01:50 AM

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I wouldn't worry too much about a push on Ceylon or the Aleutians, even he does take them, they can be bypassed and made into a Japanese PoW camp. That said, having Adak as a staging base for a push on Hokkaido in the end game is a nice thing. Honestly, the only one of those that makes sense as a potential push given your opponent's position is NZ.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 1:40:35 AM

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April 28, 1942

We begin night bombing Rockhampton with B-17s and Hudsons. It's not effective

He lands at Nome and Bethel in Alaska. Not a great deal we can do about this, but also not really that big a problem.

Pretty quiet turn to be honest.

April 29, 1942

Our night raids bear a bit of fruit, destroying a couple Zekes on the ground at Rockhampton

A quartet of CAs bombard Townsville again, but not many aircraft left there, no losses. Moderate damage to the airfield and port - approx. 30% for each

The Chinese Air Force flies against the enemy over Chungking, intel says we got 19 Sallies. Good.

Nome falls to a regiment of the 7th IJA ID. Undefended Bethel is captured as well.

Pakhoi is attacked by a couple of Vietnamese militia regiments, we have a battalion strength unit there so despite the low quality of the enemy I suspect numbers will prevail in time.

April 30, 1942

A trio of DDs try their luck at Rockhampton but are intercepted by IJN DDs. No significant damage to either side. We pull back towards Sydney and he heads east.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Rockhampton at 95,152, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo
DD Hagikaze
DD Minegumo
DD Suresushio

Allied Ships
DD Barker
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Edsall

Another hit at Townsville, 5 CLs this time. He almost nets some of our super valuable F-4 recon planes but we get lucky. This tempo of bombardments is pretty impressive. Not doing a lot to hurt us though aside from denying Townsville's airfield, which we expected.

The 11th Air Force operating out of Anchorage gets into action against Bethel to good effect:

Afternoon Air attack on 67th Naval Guard Unit, at 173,38 (Bethel)

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Sucks to be the 67th Nav Guard Unit.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 3:01:22 AM

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Alaskan bases seem unimportant, but some of them have big multipliers for the VP count. If he is going for Autovictory you should check what other bases with high multipliers are close to his current perimeter and do your best to deny them to him.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 3:13:07 AM

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Alaskan bases seem unimportant, but some of them have big multipliers for the VP count. If he is going for Autovictory you should check what other bases with high multipliers are close to his current perimeter and do your best to deny them to him.

Anchorage would net him about 500 plus whatever he gets for destroying LCUs there. Dutch Harbor, Kodiak and Cold Bay are all less than 100. The value from them would come more from destroying US LCUs. I'd estimate if he completely cleaned us out in the North Pacific he might gain 3,000 VPs. That'd still leave him around 4,000 short of auto vic so to me it's not a huge concern. Until he takes Kodiak (or cuts it off with air power) I don't think there's much of a threat in this theater for us.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 3:25:26 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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Alaskan bases seem unimportant, but some of them have big multipliers for the VP count. If he is going for Autovictory you should check what other bases with high multipliers are close to his current perimeter and do your best to deny them to him.

Anchorage would net him about 500 plus whatever he gets for destroying LCUs there. Dutch Harbor, Kodiak and Cold Bay are all less than 100. The value from them would come more from destroying US LCUs. I'd estimate if he completely cleaned us out in the North Pacific he might gain 3,000 VPs. That'd still leave him around 4,000 short of auto vic so to me it's not a huge concern. Until he takes Kodiak (or cuts it off with air power) I don't think there's much of a threat in this theater for us.

Valdez, Whittier and Seward are X10. Juneau is X100. Don't forget to project the points he gets from building the bases a little. Each AF level on Juneau is 200 points for him. Ditto for all those good bases in SOPAC that he already has.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 3:33:42 AM

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Alaskan bases seem unimportant, but some of them have big multipliers for the VP count. If he is going for Autovictory you should check what other bases with high multipliers are close to his current perimeter and do your best to deny them to him.

Anchorage would net him about 500 plus whatever he gets for destroying LCUs there. Dutch Harbor, Kodiak and Cold Bay are all less than 100. The value from them would come more from destroying US LCUs. I'd estimate if he completely cleaned us out in the North Pacific he might gain 3,000 VPs. That'd still leave him around 4,000 short of auto vic so to me it's not a huge concern. Until he takes Kodiak (or cuts it off with air power) I don't think there's much of a threat in this theater for us.

Valdez, Whittier and Seward are X10. Juneau is X100. Don't forget to project the points he gets from building the bases a little. Each AF level on Juneau is 200 points for him. Ditto for all those good bases in SOPAC that he already has.

Great point, thank you. I had not even looked that far east. You're right that losing those bases, along with likely Prince Rupert, would be a considerable concern. If he were to take all those and we weren't able to score some points elsewhere you're right that we'd be on the verge of Auto Vic concerns. I'd like to think we'd be able to make him pay for a more aggressive incursion but this is something we should at least be aware of.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 3:38:53 AM

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Here's our end of the month accounting. Ships sunk first. Not a pretty picture for us. Bulk of these losses are from disastrous attempt at Lord Howe Island and our misadventure in the Aleutians. In addition we lost 12 DDs to what's shown here.

I'd be surprised if all 3 of those IJN CAs are truly sunk, but there's probably a good chance at least two are. One small positive is that the IJN did admit we sunk the CS Nisshin (60 VPs) in our CV raid on the DEI in March.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 4:14:44 AM

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Bethel and Nome? What's he doing, trying to capture Santa Claus? Think of the morale hit.

I've never seen those bases in play. I usually move that USN base force from Nome down to Adak when I get a chance, hopefully before it dies of starvation.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 4:17:56 AM

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Aircraft losses are not quite so bleak. I'm better at aircraft?

In terms of losses this month:

Allies Grand Total: 290

US:
36 P-39D
24 B-17E (this is a problem, between long range raids on Raoul and Lord Howe, the recent enemy attacks on Charters Towers and my use of the 4Es as recon by bombing units I've significantly depleted our pool of reserves, have to clean this up)
19 P-40E
12 PBY-5 (price of flying air search when the KB is about)
6 B-17D
9 P-40B
9 Soc-1 Seagulls (getting your ship shot out from under you has this effect)

Commonwealth:
23 Blenheim IV (misadventures of the RAF in Burma...not as big a deal as the 4Es, but need to stop losing these
16 Wirraway
14 Hudsons

Japan Grand Total: 316

Interesting note here, we're still at 296 Sallies (the IIa variant), but 25 have been reclassified as shot down by AA to ops losses. Wonder how that works with FOW.

Zero: 74 (48 A2A)
Jake: 49 (mostly ops again)
Betty: -61 (thanks intel guys...)
Val: 26
Oscar: 36
Babs: 65 (not sure how much to believe this...he's flying recon missions over much more hotly contested bases now, but still...)
Lily: 41
Nell: 26
Old Sally (Ic variant): 35
Mavis: 36 (see above note Re: Babs)
Oscar (1b + 1c): 53

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 4:23:42 AM

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And finally here's the VP count. It's certainly not great, but I don't think we're in the auto victory danger zone quite yet.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 4:32:33 AM

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Bethel and Nome? What's he doing, trying to capture Santa Claus? Think of the morale hit.

I've never seen those bases in play. I usually move that USN base force from Nome down to Adak when I get a chance, hopefully before it dies of starvation.

Cheers,
CB

IIRC, Canoerebel or another longtime player here was faced with a sudden Japanese incursion through the Aleutians into Alaska and Canada. Initially it looked like an Aleutians invasion plan with KB raiding but soon more troops came and kept on taking bases. The Allies had lots of damaged ships and some of them were forced to retreat north of the Aleutians by KB's presence. Nome turned out to be a lifesaver - the Japanese ignored it and several important ships licked their wounds there until KB departed and they could flee south. That's the only time I saw Nome in play.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 7:51:35 AM

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BBFanboy: Good memory. I think CR was playing Panzerjaeger (sp?) Hortlund at the time. In this game, could there be a good reason, or is it just misdirection?

I recall Hortlund's effort to either take valuable real estate in the Pacific Northwest or gain strategic bombing points on Seattle et al. fizzled out.

Cheers,
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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 3:48:51 PM

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Everything thus far points to our opponent being detail oriented. I suspect these are point generating moves. Also interesting he is dedicating so much to building Luganville. Even if he bought out lots of engineers from Manchukuo, my understanding is he can't be doing this at all points. Somewhere, be it the Kuriles, DEI, Malaya, Burma, or CenPac, isn't getting the love.

speaking of love, we have come up with several nicknames for our opponent (since RADM Yamaguchi just doesnt roll off the tongue): Tamagotchi, The Gooch, Gooch-dog(dawg).

RADM Tamagotchi received a small butcher's bill at Norfolk Island, courtesy of some DDs. Post to follow if I can find the CR.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 9:23:30 PM

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The biggest benefit of a surprise push into North America is a surprise attack on Seattle can destroy a lot of potential CVEs. Or is it Portland? I forget.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 11:09:45 PM

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Portland...46 CVEs arrive there. That doesn't seem like much of a threat just now.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/16/2019 11:22:01 PM

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May 1, 1942

Here is the advertised hit at Norfolk I. A Cheesesteak plan for sure, I thought this was a waste of perfectly good DDs. Shows what I know:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Norfolk Island at 113,170, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-13, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DMS W-14, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DMS W-15, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DMS W-16, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Iburi Maru, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
xAK Yamagata Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Tsukuba Maru, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
xAP Kashima Maru, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Fanning
DD Mahan, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 34 (18 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 100% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...

Kind of odd to see that many vehicles sunk and no squads lost for Japan. I would have to guess trucks for some construction units.

We hammer the 67th Naval Guards at Bethel again with 2Es from Anchorage.

Pakhoi falls as we predicted.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/17/2019 2:06:34 AM

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Nice hit at Norfolk.

I'm sure you guys have thought of this, but the coastal cities (and Portland) all merit a decent garrison. You wouldn't want to permanently lose the Boeing plant in Seattle, Lockheed, Douglas and North American plants in LA or Consolidated in San Diego. There are a couple of AARs in the archives which show what can happen (Lowpe vs Jocmeister has an unsuccessful San Diego play and there's another one where Portland was successfully taken).

Do you gents have any interesting SigInt hits pointing to this possibility?

Cheers,
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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/17/2019 2:29:39 AM

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quote:

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Nice hit at Norfolk.

I'm sure you guys have thought of this, but the coastal cities (and Portland) all merit a decent garrison. You wouldn't want to permanently lose the Boeing plant in Seattle, Lockheed, Douglas and North American plants in LA or Consolidated in San Diego. There are a couple of AARs in the archives which show what can happen (Lowpe vs Jocmeister has an unsuccessful San Diego play and there's another one where Portland was successfully taken).

Do you gents have any interesting SigInt hits pointing to this possibility?

Cheers,
CB

Absolutely nothing to suggest that. With all due respect to our opponent, I just think a move like that is way beyond his comfort zone. Even if he had hinted at that level of aggression, I don't think he needs to in order to achieve an auto vic. If I were him I'd be looking at places like New Zealand or Perth and/or trying to figure out how I was going to entrap all the forces we have at Townsville. That said, our strong impression is he's about done from an offensive perspective and is preparing to play some serious defense. I think his long term plan is to see if he can hold until '45.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/17/2019 2:35:15 AM

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May 2, 1942

We've noticed recon showing ships in port at Rockhampton, so this:

Night Air attack on Rockhampton , at 95,152

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PB Mikage Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Opponent has tried all manner of softening up Wenchow with air raids and BBs rearming at Shanghai...nope:

Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43986 troops, 393 guns, 185 vehicles, Assault Value = 1622

Defending force 44665 troops, 193 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1615

Japanese adjusted assault: 609

Allied adjusted defense: 5224

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 8 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
7133 casualties reported
Squads: 234 destroyed, 269 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 126 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 51 (6 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
943 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Division
17th Division
15th Division
8th Armored Car Co
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
88th Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
25th Group Army
10th Group Army
3rd War Area
32nd Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/17/2019 3:22:25 AM

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Quiet turn. Lost a tanker to a sub off Perth.

First two regiments of the Americal Div. are one hex away from Melbourne.

He's pulled his ground forces back from just outside Townsville to Cairns. Recon actually suggests he's pulled out Cairns. We got a SigInt report that the 2nd ID was being pulled out of Rockhampton. Starting to wonder if this whole deal is an elaborate diversion.

Aus 6th ID arrives at Bundaberg, we've now got the Rockhampton attack boxed in between 1,000 AV at Townsville and 1,000 at Bundaberg. Approximately equally split between AIF and militia in each case.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/18/2019 1:29:40 AM

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Interesting. Either he's going to do a tricky end run and attempt take Sydney, Melbourne or Wellington after you've moved your forces to NE Oz or he's going to pull back to a safer line of resistance (i.e. New Guinea). Sounds like the latter based on your assessment.

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/18/2019 3:08:17 AM

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May 4, 1942

We sent the Argonaut to Luganville last week to cause trouble. Mission success:

TF 1 encounters mine field at Luganville (120,150)

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Mine hits 1

Seeing as that's TF 1, that's got to be the KB, right?

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RE: Always with them negative waves... Aaffins/Cheesest... - 12/18/2019 4:05:28 AM

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May 4, 1942

We sent the Argonaut to Luganville last week to cause trouble. Mission success:

TF 1 encounters mine field at Luganville (120,150)

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Mine hits 1

Seeing as that's TF 1, that's got to be the KB, right?

I'd say so.

well worth the journey for that tidbit.

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