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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 10:07:32 PM   
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New Britain and the Solomons: JJ brought in some more fighters at Rabaul.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 10:08:42 PM   
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Oops..no little friends.

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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 10:10:50 PM   
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Heavies from Rennel.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8


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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 21580.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22560 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 10:12:17 PM   
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Now the P-38's show up. It's a pattern.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 25,550 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 1

No Allied losses

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 10:38:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Now the P-38's show up. It's a pattern.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 25,550 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 1

No Allied losses



It appears that your sweeping altitude is higher than your bombing altitude. That may make the fighters last since they have to climb higher, especially if the pilots have hangovers. Try lowering the sweeping altitude when your are going to bomb the same base as the fighters are sweeping.

You might also want to have a low percentage of LRCAP fighters to increase his ops losses. Nor do they have to be the best fighters but P-39s are good down low. These don't have to be very high as they should opportunistically attempt to shoot down aircraft when they are coming in to land. That can ruin the landing somewhat.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 10:51:48 PM   
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Wait...are you kidding me. The "AI" factors in climb to altitude when plotting arrival at the target?

The P-38G's have a much faster cruise speed and are flying 250 nm shorter range. They COULD reach from Rennel Is. Maybe I should put them at Rennel on escort?

I do have the Corsairs and P-40K's flying LRCAP from Buka but it's not very efficient because of the range.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 11:52:37 PM   
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The length of time that it take to get to altitude and then to the target can be longer for the fighters than the bombers. It could also help if they were at the same base. There is an air coordination thread somewhere . . .

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 11:58:32 PM   
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quote:

4) This is the last one (phew) and the most comlicated but I just want to show what you can accomplish with strike coordination if used wisely:

The attacker has 3 Bases. A, B and C
The defender has 2 Bases, D and E

Base A and B are pure bomber bases, base C is a fighter base, closer to the frontline.

Lets say you want to make a coordinated strike on base D, which is heavily guarded, and E which is lightly guarded but needs the higher success rate (for whatever reason)
Number of squadrons is not of importance but please do not forget that the higher the number of squadrons/planes involved, the lower the chances that
every single strike gets coordinated.

First you could select with which bombers to attack which target base. You select all bombers on base A to attack base E and want some frome base B to join
the fun because the strike on E needs to hit home. The rest attacks base D

So:
Base A: select target E, select 10k for all base A bombers.
Base B: select 50% of the bombers to target base E and set them to 10k. Set the rest of the bombers to target base D
and set them to 12k.

Why? Because now comes the fighters. and you want them to escort exactly what you tell them to and leave no chances (or at least as few as possible).
As said before, base D is better guarded. Because of this set e.g. 70% of the fighters to 12k, split between sweep and escort mission however you desire
(and target base D but, again, you don´t have to because the coordination based on altitude could be enough)
Set the rest to 10k and also either escort or sweep.

What does the game engine do now? It again checks for alt coordination. It recognizes you want to coordinate a strike on base D with 50% of base B bombers
and 70% of base C fighters and tries to accomplish it.
It also recognizes you want to coordinate 100% base A bombers and 50% of base B bombers with 30% of base C fighters to attack base E and tries to accomplish
it.

If everything else goes well you get two beautifully coordinated strikes. There are many things that can go wrong but this way you maximize the chances.



A comment on sweeps in general

It was confirmed by the devs that sweep missions do not coordinate. The altitude coordination guide refers to bombing missions
and their assigned escorts.

This does NOT mean though that the time of arrival for sweep missions cannot be influenced!
Flight time is determined (besides time of launch) by cruise speed and rate of climb/mission altitude.

So you have tools to influence whether the sweep arrives when you want it to.


Do´s and dont´s:

- Select different altitudes for your strikes in one area. This is important. You are unneccesarily confusing the game engine if you don´t.

- Other missions that take place in the same area that do not need coordination for whatever resaon should also be set to unique altitudes

- Smaller strikers have much higher chances of coordination than a 250 plane I-want-to-dim-out-the-sun whacker. If you can accomplish something with low
numbers or expect high resistance its sometimes better to plan several smaller strikes on different altitude bands than a single big one which simply is
to large to get proper coordination and could lead to completely unescorted raids.

- Don´t forget that theres more factors involved: range to target, AC type, weather over origin and target bases, leadership value, pilot experience.
Adapt to those factors!

- Trying to attack a heavily guarded base from 4 directions, with 10 different plane types, without training, wrong leaders during a thunderstorm
and other missions set to the same altitude is the best way to improve the mood of your opponent.

- HQ´s have an important part in the Air war, not only for total planes participating but also on better raid coordination

- When trying to coordinate an attack, don´t miss the fact that plane types and their respective cruise speeds have a huge impact
on wether the raid is cohesive or not.

- If you want fighters from another base to escort your strike, make sure that the base they are based on is closer to the target hex than the bombers.

- When planning long/extended range strikes assume that this increases the chance of uncoordinated attacks and plan accordingly.

- Plan your strikes as if they could go wrong, and not as if they must succeed in order to avoid a catastrophy. So, basically I am suggesting that
you plan low risk, as long as the outcome is in doubt.
This naturally does not apply to situations where you have to be creative because you are hopelessly outgunned or outnumbered or when you own
the skies anyway.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/1/2020 11:59:09 PM   
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links and info for new players

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 12:04:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

*****************January 25, 1943(e)*************

PI: 1/6th payback for putting 6 torpedoes in a US carrier from subs in one night.

quote:

Sub attack near Guiuan at 84,85

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Torpedo hits 1
CA Chikuma
CS Chitose
CS Nisshin
DD Akikaze
DD Makinami
DD Fuyo
DD Wakatake
DD Numakaze
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS Tunny


Are you taking action to pursue the likely wounded carrier?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 12:07:54 AM   
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Depending upon the quality of the planes and pilots, you could also try a lower level sweep with maneuverable planes like the spitfire.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 1:35:12 AM   
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There are several limiting factors here.

1) The closest level 2 or higher (suitable for sweep origination) bases to Rabaul are Terapo and Rekata Bay (both 11 hexes). It has to be either P-38's or Beaufighters.

2) Buka is 4 hexes away from Rabaul but is only level one and can't support drop tanks due to supply issues

3) The closest base suitable (though not ideal) for the heavy bombers is Rennel Is..14 hexes away.

What I tried to do was send in the B-25 squadrons and hope the LRCAP over Rabaul wore down the enemy CAP...then the heavies would arrive after the enemy CAP was worn down. This has largely worked but there is very heavy AAA at Rabaul so in 3 days we have not shut down the runway. Even so, the attacks on Buka have stopped and we started landing at Buin today without any losses.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 1:39:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zorch


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

*****************January 25, 1943(e)*************

PI: 1/6th payback for putting 6 torpedoes in a US carrier from subs in one night.

quote:

Sub attack near Guiuan at 84,85

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Torpedo hits 1
CA Chikuma
CS Chitose
CS Nisshin
DD Akikaze
DD Makinami
DD Fuyo
DD Wakatake
DD Numakaze
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS Tunny


Are you taking action to pursue the likely wounded carrier?


It will have to be subs or PT boat attacks at night. We will try to guess their exit route.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 1:56:04 AM   
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Interestingly, C-47's at Cagayan, Mindanao are successfully flying supplies to Bataan without plane losses. If they realize this they can end it with LRCAP.

The KB ran across 2 US subs NE of their daytime position yesterday. The subs were in the area fortuitously to start running supplies to Luzon.




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 1:57:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

There are several limiting factors here.

1) The closest level 2 or higher (suitable for sweep origination) bases to Rabaul are Terapo and Rekata Bay (both 11 hexes). It has to be either P-38's or Beaufighters.

2) Buka is 4 hexes away from Rabaul but is only level one and can't support drop tanks due to supply issues

3) The closest base suitable (though not ideal) for the heavy bombers is Rennel Is..14 hexes away.

What I tried to do was send in the B-25 squadrons and hope the LRCAP over Rabaul wore down the enemy CAP...then the heavies would arrive after the enemy CAP was worn down. This has largely worked but there is very heavy AAA at Rabaul so in 3 days we have not shut down the runway. Even so, the attacks on Buka have stopped and we started landing at Buin today without any losses.


I understand but I thought that you would like the information and the link.

Maybe if you were to bomb one of the volcanoes with a 10 ton earthquake bomb, that could cause the volcano to explode and then render air travel impossible.

There actually is an altitude between the max ceiling of the 25mm and the larger AA guns where the AAA is not as effective. The Allied 40mm fills this hole but I don't know how well it is modeled.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 2:05:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

There are several limiting factors here.

1) The closest level 2 or higher (suitable for sweep origination) bases to Rabaul are Terapo and Rekata Bay (both 11 hexes). It has to be either P-38's or Beaufighters.

2) Buka is 4 hexes away from Rabaul but is only level one and can't support drop tanks due to supply issues

3) The closest base suitable (though not ideal) for the heavy bombers is Rennel Is..14 hexes away.

What I tried to do was send in the B-25 squadrons and hope the LRCAP over Rabaul wore down the enemy CAP...then the heavies would arrive after the enemy CAP was worn down. This has largely worked but there is very heavy AAA at Rabaul so in 3 days we have not shut down the runway. Even so, the attacks on Buka have stopped and we started landing at Buin today without any losses.


I understand but I thought that you would like the information and the link.

Maybe if you were to bomb one of the volcanoes with a 10 ton earthquake bomb, that could cause the volcano to explode and then render air travel impossible.

There actually is an altitude between the max ceiling of the 25mm and the larger AA guns where the AAA is not as effective. The Allied 40mm fills this hole but I don't know how well it is modeled.


Yes, the link was very much appreciated. Especially the clarification about sweep non-coordination.

Assuming the Japs have their heavy stuff at their major South Pacific base what would the best attack altitude be (trading safety for accuracy)?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/2/2020 2:10:56 AM   
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Buin: 30th Aus Brig, 110 Combat Eng Bn (US) and 193rd Tank Bn landing at Buin. Ineffectual shore fire and no bombardment from the defenders of our troops ashore. This may mean no infantry unit there. No mines either.

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Road from Tsuyung to Chungking is "technically" open but sketchy so we are trying to clear Neikinag.




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75 transports at Chungking trying to get supplies to Changsha and Chikiang. We lose about 4 planes every day to operations.

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So I saw this 3 year old girl who just flew back from Islamabad and developed a high fever and cough either on the plane or the day after. She looked terrible but without evidence of focal bacterial infection...in other words..like influenza. But her influenza test was negative. Her brother had a fever. We have a questionnaire about international travel that the patient is supposed to fill out but she doesn't tell anyone UNTIL I am in the room.

I give her Tamiflu in case it is influenza and tylenol and send them home to stay in their apartment. We call the health dept.

Health Dept Nurse: She has not traveled from China so we will not test.

Us: But Covid is all over Iran and now Islamabad is reporting cases.

Health Dept Nurse: The criteria are strict. <utterly useless>

Well, the cousin comes in Friday. 6 year old. 104 fever vomiting for 16 hrs. Looks TERRIBLE! I was going to send him to the hospital but he didn't want to go so I gave him some Zofran and tylenol and in 25 minutes he was smiling and drinking juice. A MIRACLE! Anyway, both mom's are getting sick now. I'm sure everything will be fine. I desperately wanted a positive test for bragging rights and to get two weeks off for my staff and me.

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I may start posting quite posting a lot pretty soon or I may stop posting. Bat soup! Nice going!

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I went to Smart and Final Sunday and bought water, some veggies, 2 bottles of bleach and 20 lbs of rice. The guy in line behind me looked like he had been working on the basement shelter for a week and had 200 cans of food. He had dilated pupils like he was doing amphetamines.

The big bags of rice were cleared out. The woman in front of me had a 60 lb bag of rice. There was no way she was going to be able to carry that.

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Stalker Girl felt bad for drinking my Vodka Apocalypse stash so she bought a bottle of Seagrams, the finest, filtered through a coffee filter, guaranteed to test <2% methanol.

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There you have it!




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There you have it!




Nothing more specific? I mean, could it be any online turn-based strategy game?

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I may start posting quite posting a lot pretty soon or I may stop posting. Bat soup! Nice going!

Where is JJ from? If you both go into quarantine we could get a turn every day!

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ORIGINAL: Zorch


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

There you have it!




Nothing more specific? I mean, could it be any online turn-based strategy game?


well, it might drive some of the Candy Crush crowd over to WITP-AE

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So I saw this 3 year old girl who just flew back from Islamabad and developed a high fever and cough either on the plane or the day after. She looked terrible but without evidence of focal bacterial infection...in other words..like influenza. But her influenza test was negative. Her brother had a fever. We have a questionnaire about international travel that the patient is supposed to fill out but she doesn't tell anyone UNTIL I am in the room.

I give her Tamiflu in case it is influenza and tylenol and send them home to stay in their apartment. We call the health dept.

Health Dept Nurse: She has not traveled from China so we will not test.

Us: But Covid is all over Iran and now Islamabad is reporting cases.

Health Dept Nurse: The criteria are strict. <utterly useless>

Well, the cousin comes in Friday. 6 year old. 104 fever vomiting for 16 hrs. Looks TERRIBLE! I was going to send him to the hospital but he didn't want to go so I gave him some Zofran and tylenol and in 25 minutes he was smiling and drinking juice. A MIRACLE! Anyway, both mom's are getting sick now. I'm sure everything will be fine. I desperately wanted a positive test for bragging rights and to get two weeks off for my staff and me.


Have you considered that the US test kits for the virus have not been stellar in their accuracy?
Have you considered going over to that health nurse's office and shaking her hand as you introduce yourself?


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

There you have it!





Hey Doctor's orders!



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