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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 10:45:40 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 10:50:15 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 10:52:41 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 6:16:40 PM   
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Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Land

Naval Air: None

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Japan

An GARR is railed from Haichow to Wuhan
An INF is railed from Haichaw to Tungkwan

Land Movement:
Germany

There is a little re-arrangement on the French and fronts (north and south)

Italy

There is some re-organisation of the Home Front

Japan

The Japanese take Ichang and the roll is a 3. 0-chit is added. A bug or have I missed something? Is it because there has previously been a throw for Ichang?

Troops continue west and a cavalry division threatens the Silk Road

Land Combat:
Japan

There is one combat announced - that against the Nationalists in the mountains. The odds are 34:6 (4:1) +1. What table do the Chinese wish to use?




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 7:28:21 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 7:36:25 PM   
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Land Combat
Japan

The fractionals succeeds (482 thrown). A 1 is thrown and the Japanese lose a unit and are all disorganised. Defender retreats.




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/22/2020 7:45:55 PM   
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Rebase:
Japan

The two Japanese FTR rebase forward

Germany

A German fighter rebases forward in Belgium and a fighter and bomber rebase further back

Reorganisation: None

Turn Ends on Less than a 6: a 1 is thrown




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 5:42:20 AM   
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One partisan in Korea. Does not affect end of turn stuff.




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 5:58:40 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 7:04:33 AM   
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Impulse: End of Turn Malarchy

Neutrality Pact:
2 x Defensive Chits please


Production Planning:

Germany

Oil situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (saved in Vienna)
1 x Oil from Romania (to production)
2 x Oil from USSR (both saved in Lodz)
1 x Oil from Austria (saved in Warsaw)
1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Milan as part of Trade Agreement)

14 Oil last turn so should be 18 (less what is used to reorganise)
14 Build Points (incl. 1 saved)

Italy

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (saved in Milan)
1 x Oil from Germany (to production)
6 Build Points (incl. 1 saved)

2 Oil last turn so should be 3 (less what is used to reorganise)

Japan

Oil Situation:

2 x Oil from the USA (both to production)
1 x Oil from the NEI (saved in Tokyo)
1 x Oil from the NEI (saved in Canton)

9 Oil last turn so should be 11 (less what is used to reorganise)
14 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Stay At Sea:
Japan

Convoys only

Italy

Convoys only

Germany

Convoys only

Return to Base:
Japan

TRS in China Sea to Fukuoka
AMPH in China Sea to Sasebo

Germany

N/a

Italy

N/a

Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

Reorganise all except the Nell, TRS and AMPH for 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended)

Germany

Reorganise all for 2.1 Oil (2 Oil expended) - Use Vienna Oil

Italy

Reorganise the Sparviero and MOT for 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended)


Breakdown:
Italy

MECH west of Genoa


Production:
Germany

1 x MIL
1 x GARR
1 x FTR (3)
1 x FTR (2)
2 x PIL
1 x SUB (1st Cycle)

Italy

1 x PIL
1 x FTR
1 x GARR

Japan

1 x TERR
1 x AMPH (1st Cycle)
1 x INF
1 x Zuikaku (2nd Cycle)
1 x ART


Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign the stuka, the He-100 and one of the Bf-109s
Kiel: SUB
Karlsruhe: Bf-109
Cologne: He-100
Stettin: Bismarck

Italy

N/a

Japan

Assign the long range Zero
Fukuoka: ARM, INF
Sasebo: Zero
Pyongyang: TERR


Trade Agreement:
Germany

3 Resources (1 Oil) to Italy

Re-Roll if I have one
If I get the chance to move first I will.


MEMO ITEM:

Germany
Oil (8 x Berlin, 4 x Warsaw, 2 x Vienna, 2 x Lodz) = 16
Build Points (0)

Italy
Oil (3 x Milan) = 2
Build Point (0)

Japan
Oil (9 x Tokyo, 2 x Canton) = 11
Build Points (0)


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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 9:31:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Production Planning:

Germany

15 Oil last turn so should be 19 (less what is used to reorganise)
14 Build Points (incl. 1 saved)

Hmm... I have 14 oil from last turn and 18 now.

Should we examine why the discrepancy?




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 9:53:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

The Japanese take Ichang and the roll is a 3. 0-chit is added. A bug or have I missed something? Is it because there has previously been a throw for Ichang?

No, it is not because there has been a previous roll for Ichang. It is because when one play wit the extra cities option the cities has different US entry values. Ichang has a entry value of 2.

US Entry with the extra cities:
Japan occupies Chinese city - 2*
Notes:
* +1 for each factory in the hex


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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 10:38:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Production Planning:

Germany

15 Oil last turn so should be 19 (less what is used to reorganise)
14 Build Points (incl. 1 saved)

Hmm... I have 14 oil from last turn and 18 now.

Should we examine why the discrepancy?



warspite1

I will look at this when I finish work. I don't understand how the same game save can produce such different results. If this is prelim production it might well work itself out. I have raised before the issue that the numbers don't always appear to make sense but then work themselves out at the end of the phase.


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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 12:15:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign the stuka, the He-100 and one of the Bf-109s
Kiel: SUB
Karlsruhe: Bf-109
Cologne: He-100
Stettin: Bismarck

Placed the Stuka in Dusseldorf. I hope that will be good enough.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 12:34:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign the stuka, the He-100 and one of the Bf-109s
Kiel: SUB
Karlsruhe: Bf-109
Cologne: He-100
Stettin: Bismarck

Placed the Stuka in Dusseldorf. I hope that will be good enough.

Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story
Needed a new leader to restore its former glory
Where, Oh where was he? Where could that man be?
We looked around and then we found
The man for you and me
And now it's..

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay
We're marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Winter for Poland and France
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Come on, Germans, go into your dance

I was born in Dusseldorf, and that is why they call me Rolf
Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi party

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Goosestep's the new step today
Bombs falling from the skies again
Deutschland is on the rise again

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Uboats are sailing once more

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Means that soon we'll be going
We've got to be going
You know we'll be going to WAR!

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 12:40:16 PM   
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Allied end of turn:

Preliminary planning:
CW - 19 BPs.
France - 13 BPs.
USA - 11 BPs.
USSR - 15 BPs.
China - 8 BPs.

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

CW:
Convoy escorts in 1 and 4 boxes
All CPs
North Sea: 4 x BB

France:
All CPs
Convoy escorts in 1 to 4 boxes

USA:
CPs

USSR:
CPs

Return to Base:

CW:
TRS -> UK
TRS -> Cape Town
TRS -> Bombay
Liner -> Bombay
BBs (East Med) -> Alexandria
BBs (North Sea) -> Plymouth

France:
TRS -> Oran
CP -> Noumea
CA -> Fort-de-France
CA -> Marseilles
CA -> Marseilles
CA -> Dakar
Fleet in North Sea to Brest

USA:
SUB -> Midway

Use Oil:

USSR:
All units except 1 BB are reorganized for 0 oil (0.4).

CW:
All units, except 7 x CL (or CA) + 2 x SUB + CVL, are reorganized for 3 oil (3.45).

France:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.45).

USA:
All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.2).

China:
All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.0).

Breakdown: -

Prod plan Final:
zzzz

Scrap: France scraps 2 x FTR2 + AT

Production:
China (8):
MTN
MIL
FTR2

CW (19):
MOT
2 x Pilot
2 x FTR2
CVP1
2 x CP
TRS (2nd)
Repair CA

France (13):
Scrap AA
MIL
INF
2 x FTR2
AA

USA (11):
HQA
CVP1
2 x CA (1st)

USSR (15):
2 x INF
ARM
Pilot
Save 1 BP

Conquest - Liberation:
Italy conquers British Somaliland.
CW conquers Italian Somaliland.

Reinforcements:

CW:
FTR2 -> Cape Town
HQI + LND3 -> London
CA -> Plymouth
CVP1 -> HMS Illustrious (Liverpool)
INF -> Bombay

France:
MIL + FTR2 -> Paris
ARM + FTR2 -> Vichy
FTR3 -> Rouen
BB -> Marseilles


USA:
CP -> Norfolk

China:
CAV Div -> Ankang
MIL + Warlord -> Lanchow
CAV Div -> Sining
22 x INF -> Tianshui

USSR:
INF + AT -> Vitebsk
GARR -> Vladivostok
INF -> Kiev

USSR removes all 7 aircraft on the map

Voluntary Resource Lending:
CW -> France: 2 resources
France -> CW: 2 BPs

Note 1: The Belgian MIL wasn't removed during conquest. This needs to be fixed somehow. It is weak so maybe it will work itself out?
Note 2: CW is still owed one oil in UK.
Note 3: Possible loss of one German saved oil - needs checking. Edit: Solved

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 12:46:28 PM   
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Initiative

Axis rolls 2 while the Allies roll 5 and wins the initiative. As the initiative marker were on Allied +1 there is no option for Axis to re-roll. Allies go first.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 12:48:45 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 4:39:47 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 8:31:57 PM   
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Impulse: 1 (Allies)

No declarations of war.

Land: China
Combined: USA, USSR
Naval: France, CW

No port strikes. No naval air.

Naval Movement:

USA:
TRS + GARR (San Diego) -> Polynesia
SUB (Midway) -> The Marianas
SUB (San Diego) -> Central Pacific

France:
TRS + 2 x CA (Oran/Marseilles) -> East Ned 2-box - embark TERR from Beirut
2 x BB (Brest) -> CSV 0-box
4 x BB (Brest) -> North Sea 3-box
2 x SUB (Beirut) -> Italian Coast 2-box
BB + 4 x CA (Oran/Marseilles/Casablanca) -> West Med 4-box
A few convoy escorts leave port

CW:
TRS + FTR2 (Cape town) -> CSV 0-box
TRS + INF (Bombay) -> Red Sea 0-box
Liner + MIL (Bombay) -> Bay of Bengal 0-box
SUB (Gibraltar) -> Italian Coast 3-box
1 CP -> Coral Sea
1 CP -> Timor Sea
1 CP -> Red Sea
1 CP -> Bay of Bengal
1 CP -> Arabian Sea
1 CP -> Gulf of Guinea
1 CP -> Cape Verde Basin
4 x BB + 2 CA -> East Med 3-box
1 CVL + 2 CA -> East Med 2-box
3 x CV + 3 x BC + 2 x CA -> West Med 4-box
3 x BB + 2 x CA -> North Sea 3-box
Plenty of convoy escorts leave port

No strategic bombing.

CW fly 3 ground strike missions. One against Brussels, and one towards each of the hexes south of Brussels.






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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/23/2020 8:36:18 PM   
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Germany has plenty of interceptors available that can reach different of the targeted hexes.

CW has 4 FTR2 (3 x 5 strength + one 3 strength) that can reach the hexes.




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 7:09:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 5-strength Bf-109 in 53,32 flies to 53,31
The He-100 flies to Brussels
The CR-42 flies to 53,32

I will give orders on the targets etc once I know what is intercepting.

Thank-you

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 8:14:56 AM   
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CW counter-intercepts with one 5 strength FTR2 to each air combat.

We begin with the air combat above Brussels.




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 8:24:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the German fighter shoots down or aborts an enemy and has the choice then the fighter is shot down NOT the bomber in this first combat.

This does NOT apply to the other two - where the bomber is the prime target.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 8:33:44 AM   
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In the first fight the British bomber cleared and the German fighter aborted.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 8:52:10 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 8:54:45 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 8:59:45 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 9:05:14 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 3/24/2020 9:13:13 AM   
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