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I don't mean finished in that sense. I mean new cases down to nil or next to it. States or portions thereof will gradually ease restrictions around then - or as soon as NYC is doing okay.

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Hey, we're pulling for you here (you'd see if you had time to scroll through 8k posts).

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Nearly 90% of People Hospitalized for COVID-19 Have Underlying Conditions, Says CDC
3 hrs ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/nearly-90percent-of-people-hospitalized-for-covid-19-have-underlying-conditions-says-cdc/ar-BB12pf0p?li=BBnb7Kz


These numbers are similar to JohnDillworth' post yesterday.



"For weeks, the world has been inundated with information about the COVID-19 pandemic. While cases continue to rise and researchers learn more about the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), most data has lacked a certain specificity needed to ensure that people take this illness seriously.

But on Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was able to give a closer look at exactly who is most affected by COVID-19—and its findings underscore the importance of the preventive measures we've all been taking.

The highest rates of hospitalization occurred in those ages 65 and older.

In a new study published for the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, researchers found that the majority of those hospitalized due to COVID-19 have preexisting conditions—about 90% of patients, or nearly all, had one or more underlying conditions.

The most common, per the CDC, include
hypertension (49.7%),
obesity (48.3%),
chronic lung disease (34.6%),
diabetes mellitus (28.3%),
and cardiovascular disease (27.8%)."

Do you know how this and the previous post compare to Influenza mortality rates?

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

This is the basic choice for the US.

Is America a Roaring Giant or Crying Baby?

I sure hope we pick door #1

Judging by some of the proposals in this article I sure hope we pick neither. Somewhere in between please.

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

This is the basic choice for the US.

Is America a Roaring Giant or Crying Baby?

A cry-baby no doubt.

The US as we knew them (pre-2008) are finished. You want to stop historical processes and that is not going to work eh. Yes, sure, an asteriod could hit Shanghai tomorrow. Or a mega tsunami swallow the whole US continental landmass for that matter. Or the aliens... or whatever...

The basic historical process is that capitalism has already migrated to the east. Do I need to say it? Power and strenght are where capitalism flourishes (China as we speak, are you following me, captain knucklehead?). Many people don't get this massive geopolitical shift going on under our very eyes. We are living interesting times no doubt.

There were various US. Pre civil war, you had a nation of free farmers. Post civil war, a robber barons' industrialised state. After FDR and WW2, the golden age, a nation with flourishing working and middle classes ;)

Well, reaganomics brought in fact the future proletarisation of these two classes (the middle class is in fact going to extinction as we speak). On the other hand US plutocrats made obscene fortunes, as per the plan eh.

So you're talking about an US that do not exist anymore in the first place. It's finito, kaputt, over. You seem to not grasp the most basic capitalist concepts. Capitalism demands one thing above everything else: cheap labour. No Chinese wall can stop this drive rofl Manufactures are not coming back, you naive souls... unless you accept Chinese (or Vietnamese, Mexican etc) wages. The most ironic fact is that ONLY socialism would have stopped this historical process. You're gunna luv capitalism's tendencies (which you do not even understand).

I have not the slightest doubt that your oligarchic masters will keep thriving selling their slices of paper until the world says "hey man, we don't want your slices of paper anymore" (munching their caviar with their Chinese, European counterparts), but the conditions that made possible post FDR's golden age have already disappeared: a healthy, sane working and middle classes. That WAS the real backbone of US prosperity and grandeur.

Oh, the last sign (of a serie of many signs). China knocks US from top spot in global patent race...

But perhaps the most clear sign of the state of decay is Mr Maduro's affair. It is well known that the Caribbean Sea always was a vital strategic zone. Well, looks like the US cannot even impose their will on this critical area (their hilarious puppet Guaidollar that is). Houston, we have a problem! And funny ignorant captain knucklehead here wants to force the Chinese to pay trillions HAHAHAHAHA poor troll who's not understood anything... keep braying, bigmouth, you're hilarious!

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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captain knucklehead

Is that not insulting?

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

There is a more deadly virus,,,

Annual Global Road Crash Statistics

Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.

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If I told you that 32,000 died in auto-related incidents last year, we could all agree that was a senseless tragedy, something we should be doing far more to address. If I told you that, if we didn’t do anything, deaths would rise to 35,000 this year, you’d probably join me in dismay at this needless loss of life. However, if I told you that there was a chance that next year 10 million people would die from auto crashes, you (along with everyone else) would lose your mind. And you’d probably never drive or even go near a car.

Statistically, there is essentially zero chance that auto deaths will climb into the millions next year, and everyone understands that. Auto deaths are non-scalable. They can be quantified, understood, and even predicted from year-to-year with a respectable level of macro-precision.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Smoking weed and coronavirus: Even occasional use raises risk of COVID-19 complications

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If you're smoking weed to ease your stress during the coronavirus pandemic, experts say it's time to think twice.

Smoking marijuana, even occasionally, can increase your risk for more severe complications from Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

"What happens to your airways when you smoke cannabis is that it causes some degree of inflammation, very similar to bronchitis, very similar to the type of inflammation that cigarette smoking can cause," said pulmonologist Dr. Albert Rizzo, chief medical officer for the American Lung Association. "Now you have some airway inflammation and you get an infection on top of it. So, yes, your chance of getting more complications is there."
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"Because it attacks the lungs, the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 could be an especially serious threat to those who smoke tobacco or marijuana or who vape," the NIH said in its announcement.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/smoking-weed-and-coronavirus-even-occasional-use-raises-risk-of-covid-19-complications/ar-BB12qSZf

Maybe this is why some young people have problems with CoViD-19.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

California might peak in the next few days.

Re-linking as the site is even more useful today - they added "scale to highlight" as an option.

https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

People must comply with the law, but what's wrong with anyone petitioning a court for a ruling on a contention about rights under the law? A judge should be able to determine if the complaint is legit or not. If the judge screws it up, there is the appeals process. This is one of the ways our constitutional republic works. I can't see anything wrong with homeowners anywhere filing a lawsuit to assert a sincerely held right, subjecting it to judicial scrutiny and rule.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Six homeowners, who reside the rest of the time in South Carolina, Virginia and Maryland, have backed the complaint, claiming the ban violates the "privileges and immunities" clause of the U.S. Constitution, which states that "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several states."

What did I tell you? I saw this coming and I'm not even an American citizen.

Sadly, people everywhere (not only in the USA) fail to understand how with freedom comes responsibility. If you worsen this emergency because of your "freedoms", that's on you. "Freedom" is not a "Get out from jail for free" card.

I agree. Citizenship also has obligations. Even noncitizens have obligations to whatever country that they are living in, for whatever reason that they are there.

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

There isn't time to implement a major new program (creating, printing, distributing cards, for instance) in the U.S. before this season's pandemic ends, per current projections.

Most states are projected to be finished around or shortly after May 1. There's not enough time to do much between now and then. There will be moves to gradually ease restrictions in coming weeks. Slowly at first, then more quickly. Nobody will get too frisky before the situation in NYC metro is under control. That's the country's nerve center - we're not going to be at ease as long as it's locked in mortal battle.

Gradually, restrictions will ease. Authorities will look for any signs of flare-ups. The key will be to have enough medical capacity to jump on any eruptions.

During the summer, a lot of thought will be given to more long term solutions, especially if it seems likely another outbreak will occur in the fall.

There may be long term financial/economic/medical community repercussions beyond measure...or maybe not. I don't know. Barring a cascade effect - this triggering some kind of war - I don't foresee major lifestyle changes in my region.

Keep a eye on left field.

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ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

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I don't mean finished in that sense. I mean new cases down to nil or next to it. States or portions thereof will gradually ease restrictions around then - or as soon as NYC is doing okay.

As long as we stay vigilant. I mean the whole country. I fear whats going to happen is we are going to try and open the country up again too soon and this is going to flare up again. I not only fear that, I fear that is likely. The only way out I see is to have a antibody test and test EVERYBODY, or at least everybody that wants to mingle in polite society. We can stop, start, fuss, think we know better but that is the only certain way out.....or at least until we have a vaccine. So you take a test, you get some sort of proof, you are clear to go to a place where, and this is where it gets funny......someone checks you for your certificate. Counterfeits are the least of our problems. This country has an independence streak that is going to be impossible to overcome. The Government taking your blood, issues certificates and keeping records? Can't see that really working. OK, plan B, keep things locked down until we get a vaccine. Vaguely possible but no guarantee you can make a vaccine for this. Heck, the pneumonia vaccine is fairly recent and they were looking for that a 100 years ago. Even if possible best case is 12-18 months and then you have to manufacture billions of doses .........so plan B is not terrific. So now we are up to plan C........Heard immunity. That will absolutely work, hell, it's going to happen anyway. But at what cost? Sorry, having a perfectly ****ty shift but I'm really struggling to see whats next and be happy about it. And then there is the economy

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How about predictions for new cases in NC?

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Nearly 90% of People Hospitalized for COVID-19 Have Underlying Conditions, Says CDC
3 hrs ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/nearly-90percent-of-people-hospitalized-for-covid-19-have-underlying-conditions-says-cdc/ar-BB12pf0p?li=BBnb7Kz


These numbers are similar to JohnDillworth' post yesterday.



"For weeks, the world has been inundated with information about the COVID-19 pandemic. While cases continue to rise and researchers learn more about the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), most data has lacked a certain specificity needed to ensure that people take this illness seriously.

But on Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was able to give a closer look at exactly who is most affected by COVID-19—and its findings underscore the importance of the preventive measures we've all been taking.

The highest rates of hospitalization occurred in those ages 65 and older.

In a new study published for the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, researchers found that the majority of those hospitalized due to COVID-19 have preexisting conditions—about 90% of patients, or nearly all, had one or more underlying conditions.

The most common, per the CDC, include
hypertension (49.7%),
obesity (48.3%),
chronic lung disease (34.6%),
diabetes mellitus (28.3%),
and cardiovascular disease (27.8%)."

Do you know how this and the previous post compare to Influenza mortality rates?

Given that ~60,000 people don't die from the flu in less than 6 months: higher.