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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/14/2020 5:20:05 PM   
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1 submarine = 1pts / 2 convoys 2pts / Carrier 2pts / Amphibious 3pts
Air trsp plane 3 pts / 2 carrier air 2pts / pilot 2pts
para div 3pts

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/14/2020 5:22:05 PM   
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Impulse: End of Turn Malarchy - EuroAxis

Neutrality Pact:
2 x Offensive Chits please.

Production Planning:

Germany

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (saved in Berlin)
1 x Oil from Romania (saved in Prague)
2 x Oil from USSR (both to production)
1 x Oil from Austria (to production)
1 x Oil from Germany (to Italy as part of trade agreement)

15 Oil last turn so should be 17 (less what is used to reorganise)
12 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Italy

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (to production)
1 x Oil from Germany (save in Milan)
9 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

3 Oil last turn so should be 4 (less what is used to reorganise)


Stay At Sea:

Italy

Convoy + Zara (from East Med 3-box)
Convoy + Trieste (from Italian Coast 4-box)

Germany

Convoys only

Return to Base:

Italy

All submarines and surface units (except the two named above) return to La Spezia


Oil Reorganisation:

Germany

Reorganise all for 2.3 Oil (2 Oil expended)

Italy

Reorganise all for 2.3 Oil (2 Oil expended)

Breakdown: None


Production:
Germany

1 x ARM HQ
1 x MIL
1 x FTR

Italy

1 x TERR
1 x NAV (2)
1 x PIL
1 x Naval Repair (Caio Duillio)
1 x SUB

Factory Destruction:

N/a

Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign the stuka, one of the Bf-109 and the NAV

Konigsberg: GARR
Stettin: Bismarck
Kiel: SUB
Bremen: NAV
Essen: Bf-109
Aachen: stuka

Italy

La Spezia: SUB

Trade Agreement:

Germany

Amend the existing Agreement: 0 Build Points, 5 x resources and 1 oil to Italy


Re-Roll if I have one
If I get the chance to move first I will.



MEMO ITEM:

Germany
Oil (7 x Berlin, 4 x Lodz, 4 x Warsaw) = 15
0 x Build Points (0)

Italy
Oil (2 x Milan) = 2
0 x Build Point (0)

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/14/2020 6:32:42 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/14/2020 8:13:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 5. May/Jun 1940. End of turn.
(please read Roberts post in addition to this one)

Partisans:
Malaya 91
NEI 21
Burma 59
Manchuria 14
India 9 Garrison failed, a 1-2 Italian partisan in India
France 67
FIC 21


Neutrality chits:
GE - 2 offensive
Moving one defensive marker to an offensive one

USSR - 1 defensive


US-entry:
1 chit towards Japan

No US-entry options chosen

Prel production:
Germany 15 BPs, 2 oil saved
Italy 9 BPs, 1 oil saved
Japan 18 BPs, 1 oil saved

China 6 BPs, 0 oil saved
CW 16 BPs, 6 oil saved
France 1 BP, 0 oil saved
US 10 BPs, 1 oil saved
USSR 15 BPs, 0 oil saved

Stay at Sea:
CW keeps their pickets to protect the convoys
CW keeps a presence in the East and West Med.

Return to base:
The Med fleet returns to Malta
The convoyfleet returns to Plymouth and Gibraltar
The french fleet returns to Marseille

Oil:
USSR uses no oil
Japan uses 1 oil
Germany uses 2 oil
Italy uses 2 oil
China uses no oil
CW uses 4 oil
France uses 2 oil
US uses no oil

Breakdowns:
None

Final production
Germany 12 BPs, 15 oil in total
Italy 9 BPs, 2 oil in total
Japan 18 BPs, 5 oil in total

China 6 BPs, 1 oil in total
CW 16 BPs, 9 oil in total
France 1 BP, 1 oil in total
US 10 BPs, 7 oil in total
USSR 14 BPs, 8 oil in total

Scrapping:
None

Builds:
Germany - ARM HQ, MIL, FTR2
Italy - TERR, NAV2, PIL, repair Caio Duillio, SUB
Japan - SUB, 2 CP, Carrier, Amph, Airtransport, 2 CVP1, PIL, PARA division

China - 2 INF
CW - 2 CP, 1 LND4, PIL, MIL, HQ INF, 1 CVP1, 1 CVP0
France - repairs CA Foch
US - PIL, Amph, SUB, Naval transport, Cav division
USSR - GARR, 3 INF, PIL - save 1 BP

Conquest:
Sardinia is completely conquered by CW
China choses to not surrender to Japan


Turn 6. Jul/Aug 1940.

Reinforcements:
Germany - Assign the stuka, one of the Bf-109 and the NAV
Konigsberg: GARR
Stettin: Bismarck
Kiel: SUB
Bremen: NAV
Essen: Bf-109
Aachen: stuka
Magdeburg: MIL

Italy -
La Spezia: SUB
Mogadishu: TERR

Japan places INF and MTN in Tokyo

China places INF in Chihkiang and CAV division Chengtu

CW assigns pilots to FTR3 and two NAV
CW places MIL in Glasgow, CP in Plymouth, CP in Capetown and airunits in Bristol

France places ARM and Art in Lyons together with FTR. NAV is placed in Marseilles. BB in Brest.

US places a MTN div in San Diego and a INF and CP in Philly

USSR places 3 INF, GARR and HQ INF close to the German border
CChina places Warlord and CAV in Lanchow


Trade agreements:
US lends 3 oil to CW


Initiative:
Axis 1
Allies 10

Axis choses to reroll (Allies roll with +1)
Axis 2
Allies 4

Allies will move first
Weather


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/17/2020 2:42:10 AM   
rkr1958


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Status: offline 		Turn 6. Jul/Aug 1940. Axis #1. USSR & China MPs (1/3).

Actions: USSR - combine, China - land.

Rail: 4th Siberians. Krasnakumensk [52,145] to Omsk.

China.

comchi.
(1) 1st inf army. China 75,134 to Tianshani.
(2) Mao HQ-I. Tianshani to China 74,133.
(3) cav corps. Lanchow to China 72,132.
(4) Lanchow warlord. Lanchow to China 73,132.

Natchi.
(1) 1st cav. China 79,133 to 77,133.
(2) 2nd cav div. Chengtu to China 78,133.
(3) 1st inf army. China 80,134 to 79,134.
(4) Kunming MIL. China 90,136 to Nanning.
(5) 2nd cav. China 89,136 to 91,139.
(6) 8th inf army. Chihkiang to China 84,139.
(7) Chungking Warlord. China 85,137 to Chihkiang.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/17/2020 2:44:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 6. Jul/Aug 1940. Axis #1. USSR & China MPs (2/3).

Mongolia.
Rail. 4th Siberians. Krasnokumensk 52,145 to Omsk.

USSR (5th land moved). 3rd Siberians. USSR 52,146 to Krasnokumensk 52,145.

Air Rebase. I-153. Krasnokumensk 52,145 to Chita.





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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/17/2020 2:45:13 AM   
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Europe. No moves.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/17/2020 2:03:41 PM   
jesperpehrson


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Status: offline 		Turn 6. Jul/Aug 1940. Allied #1

See Ronnies post for USSR and Chinas moves.


CW: Naval
France: Combined
US: Combined

Port attacks:
None

Naval air:
None

Naval movement:
A dutch transport moves into the Bay of Biscay to sealift a CW FTR
The Queens pick up the Sydney militia
The Cape Town militia starts its transport northwards
A dutch SUB enters the Italian Coasts 4-box
The London Militia is picked up by a transport in the Bay of Biscay
A fleet moves into the Eastern Meds 4-box.
CW protects their convoys.

A French CA-fleet containing a TRS moves into the Cape St Vincent

A US CA transports a MTN division to the Hawaiian Islands.

Naval combat:
CW wants to intitiate naval combat in Eastern Med and Italian Coast.
First up is the Italian Coast.


Does Italy want to fly any aircraft? There are several FTR that can reach the 0 or 1 box and a NAV that can reach up to the 2-box.

Second is the Eastern Med.


Does Italy want to fly any aircraft to the Eastern Med? There is a FTR that can reach the 0 or 1 box and a NAV that can reach up to the 2-box.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/17/2020 3:32:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the carrier aircraft in the Western Med are able to get involved in the Italian Coast then the Macchi in Salerno flies. However I don't think they can, in which case nothing for the Italians in either hex and they stick around until the searches come to an end or the CP are destroyed - in which case the cruisers won't hang around if they have the chance to turn tail. Thank-you.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 6:32:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 6. Jul/Aug 1940. Allied #1, part 2

Naval combat continued:

CW initiates in the Italians Coast. SUB is commited. No airreactions from either side.
Allies roll 9
Axis rolls 1
Italy gets 7 surprise and in the spirit of moving this along I will try and kill the SUB.


CW risk is 2 D + A.
Rolls are 8 and 9 sinking the Dutch SUB.


No more combat.

CW initiates in the Eastern Med.
No airreactions from either side
Allies rolls 9
Axis rolls 2

How does Italy want to proceed?


2 CW CP in the 0-box
1 CW CA in the 3-box
The rest of the CW fleet in the 4-box

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 6:56:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I assume from those throws that I have at least 4 surprise points? If so then I would very much like to avoid combat please!!

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 7:23:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I assume from those throws that I have at least 4 surprise points? If so then I would very much like to avoid combat please!!


Copy that!

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 7:46:04 AM   
jesperpehrson


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Naval combat continued:
Italy avoids combat in the Eastern Med using 4 surprisepoints.

Strategic bombardment:
None

Groundstrike:
CW sends two bombers to Tripoli.
Italy cannot intercept.


Railmoves:
Only USSR as per Ronnies post

Landmoves:
France moves into Lille and Vichy.


US debarks divison onto Midway


Landattacks:
France launches a second assault on Tripoli


The attack is 6:5 (+1,4). Italy can fly a NAV to make it 6:6.
Does Italy want to fly?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 8:24:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes please, Italy does whatever she can to help the defence including shore bombardment if the cruiser in the East Med is able to. Thank-you.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 8:43:48 AM   
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Land combat continued:
Italy flies their NAV in Sicily to aid the defenders in Tripoli. The ship off the shore is unfortunatly not able to assist.


Assault or blitz?


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 8:50:36 AM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 8:56:31 AM   
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Land combat continued:


What unit to kill?


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 8:59:46 AM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 9:01:10 AM   
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Landcombat continued:
Libyan TERR and French INF are killed in the assault on Tripoli

Air rebase:
CW rebases their Sunderland NAV to Malta.

Sending the turn.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/18/2020 11:40:55 AM   
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Axis imp 2
Land move for Japan.
Nothing till the movement phase.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/19/2020 6:32:28 AM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Italy

A small task force puts to sea. I say no to interception as its obvious they are to remain in the Western Mediterranean. A GARR is picked up from southern France and the fleet settles into the 2-box.

The Italians decline combat in both Western and Eastern Mediterranean area. Do the French/CW wish to initiate in the Western basin?
They have a number of naval rated aircraft that can reach.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/19/2020 9:41:05 AM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/19/2020 11:47:47 AM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike:
Italy

A BA.65 flies to Lyons

Germany

Two stukas (5-strength) fly to Paris and one (6-strength) to the hex southeast and a 5-strength German fighter flies to protect the Italians. Does the D510 in Lyons fly to protect its hex or remain on the ground?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/19/2020 2:18:19 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/26/2020 5:16:52 AM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Ground Strike (Air to Air Combat Subphase)

As per previous order I assume the bomber is the target and so roll both dice together

Round 1

Allied - 12 (AC) The bomber is cleared through
Axis - 14 (AA) The fighter is aborted Where does the fighter land?




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/26/2020 8:53:16 AM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/27/2020 5:47:34 AM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Ground Strike:



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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/27/2020 6:08:53 AM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Germany

The Germans move on Paris

Italy

Balbo heads for Benghazi

Debark:
Italy

A GARR lands in Tripoli



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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/27/2020 6:35:41 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 4/27/2020 7:27:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The 6th inf and the 25th inf move into the city.
No US entry chit was added.
Air rebase: B5N1 Kate stacks with HQ Terauchi
Air reorganisation: Trsport reorganizes 25th inf in Yenan
HQ Umezu reorganizes the 11th inf, the marine corps and the Tokyo militia.




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