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Gltich with friendship pact - 6/16/2020 10:11:44 PM

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When targeting a major regime, it said target faction not allow friendship pact. then i went to regime tab to check what faction is in power, it says realpolitiker and i am surprised it does not allow, so i went back to the strategem and now it shows difficult and expect rolls........ and worked. very strange.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/16/2020 10:21:54 PM

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And to add to that, every time i managed to get friendship pact, it gets canceled by the AI the next turn. Is that due to AI hidden intention even though it says friends?

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/17/2020 11:04:16 AM

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What version# has your game?

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/17/2020 6:01:06 PM

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beta 4, but save file was from 1.03

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/17/2020 6:06:44 PM

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a related strategem glitch, propsing peace with major, difficulty says 110, but after roll it says the difficulty is 220....

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/17/2020 6:48:58 PM

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Of note Vic in MP I have been unable to send Non-agression pacts and the like to human players because of the faction in charge, this seems a bit strange.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/17/2020 7:43:11 PM

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okay, another strategem wiredness, draft workers, sucess, lower pop happiness, but no increases in workers.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/17/2020 8:31:12 PM

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quote:

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okay, another strategem wiredness, draft workers, sucess, lower pop happiness, but no increases in workers.

As a general rule, card effects are set when the savegame is created. To see any changes, you need to start a new game!

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/18/2020 12:27:04 PM

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beta 4, but save file was from 1.03

I think a restart is required for this fine-tune to go into effect.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/18/2020 12:30:09 PM

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a related strategem glitch, propsing peace with major, difficulty says 110, but after roll it says the difficulty is 220....

Could you send an autosave to vic@vrdesigns.net where i can play this stratagem and see this diff swap in action?

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/18/2020 12:39:46 PM

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@Saros,
Will be fixed next open beta. Another nice catch

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/18/2020 4:56:24 PM

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quote:

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a related strategem glitch, propsing peace with major, difficulty says 110, but after roll it says the difficulty is 220....

Could you send an autosave to vic@vrdesigns.net where i can play this stratagem and see this diff swap in action?

best wishes,
Vic

sadly i have since played quite a few turns (thx for the additive game like a time blackhole btw...), and lost track when did this happen. Will let you know if it happens again.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/20/2020 5:03:10 PM

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started a version 6 beta new game, this time cannot get realpolitker to sign non/aggression pact which says faction not allowing this type. is that correct? or is there a reference list on what type of deal each faction type would accept?

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/20/2020 6:27:06 PM

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quote:

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started a version 6 beta new game, this time cannot get realpolitker to sign non/aggression pact which says faction not allowing this type. is that correct? or is there a reference list on what type of deal each faction type would accept?

We are on beta 8 right now. Hard to say if there was any bug that was fixed in between.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/30/2020 12:04:04 PM

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I'm guessing that this has been fixed in the upcoming version, since a search for my problem brought me here. But I'll explain it, just in case:

I'm playing the released version (1.03.00) in my first game. One of my neighbors is a Republican major regime, firmly under Realpolitiker control. We've had a relationship of 100 with these guys for a long time. We have level 3 deals in communication, research, and trade.

But we have level 0 in military. And I can't even try to change that, because when I attempt to use the non-aggression pact stratagem, the game says, "Regime does not have a faction in power that supports such a pact."

That seems odd. If a Realpolitiker faction won't accept non-aggression pacts, who will?

This has been going on for a long time, and it has never changed for me. (That regime has never offered a non-aggression pact to me, either, which seems odd.)

But again, this is very similar to the initial post here, so I imagine it's already been fixed. I just thought I'd better mention it.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/30/2020 2:02:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WCG

I'm guessing that this has been fixed in the upcoming version, since a search for my problem brought me here. But I'll explain it, just in case:

I'm playing the released version (1.03.00) in my first game. One of my neighbors is a Republican major regime, firmly under Realpolitiker control. We've had a relationship of 100 with these guys for a long time. We have level 3 deals in communication, research, and trade.

But we have level 0 in military. And I can't even try to change that, because when I attempt to use the non-aggression pact stratagem, the game says, "Regime does not have a faction in power that supports such a pact."

That seems odd. If a Realpolitiker faction won't accept non-aggression pacts, who will? This has been going on for a long time, and it has never changed for me. (That regime has never offered a non-aggression pact to me, either, which seems odd.)

But again, this is very similar to the initial post here, so I imagine it's already been fixed. I just thought I'd better mention it.

It has been fixed. But it requires a new game to go into effect. Just to make sure. With which version did you start your game (mouse over #version in dashboard report if you forgot)

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/30/2020 2:06:27 PM

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Not fixed (if 1.04 == 1.03b12 at least), but I guess you realized that now after seeing my post about it. Quite a coincidence this suddenly pops up for everyone.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 6/30/2020 10:02:40 PM

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It has been fixed. But it requires a new game to go into effect. Just to make sure. With which version did you start your game (mouse over #version in dashboard report if you forgot)

Game Build v 1.03
Scenario Build Version v 1.02
Last Game Build used: 103
Scenario Version Number: #21

PS. Great game! I'm loving it. Thanks!

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 7/1/2020 9:05:09 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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It has been fixed. But it requires a new game to go into effect. Just to make sure. With which version did you start your game (mouse over #version in dashboard report if you forgot)

Game Build v 1.03
Scenario Build Version v 1.02
Last Game Build used: 103
Scenario Version Number: #21

PS. Great game! I'm loving it. Thanks!

Bill

Thanks.

Major diplomacy should work much better with a new game start with v1.04.

Which you should upgrade to in any case :)

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 7/1/2020 10:08:49 AM

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Oh you have to *start* a new game with it. Ok, that's good news, starting a new game today and then I don't have to go to war with everyone or rush to 50 before they get 25.

I was under the impression I wouldn't have to because you asked me to retry with a save in the other thread, which I did, I don't know if you saw it (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4845667).

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 7/1/2020 10:36:45 AM

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Oh you have to *start* a new game with it. Ok, that's good news, starting a new game today and then I don't have to go to war with everyone or rush to 50 before they get 25.

I was under the impression I wouldn't have to because you asked me to retry with a save in the other thread, which I did, I don't know if you saw it (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4845667).

There are different fixes that have been made. The one with the Realpolitiker requires a restart.
Your issue with the AI suddenly turning against you on victory score 50 should be fixed without a restart. (but you'd have to back a few rounds of course).
Your issue with the disappearing Stratagem requires a restart as well. You will however be able to produce it again. Its just the Victory Pact Strat requires the Friendship Pact Strat to be present with your current game.

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RE: Gltich with friendship pact - 7/1/2020 11:10:20 AM

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Yep ok, thank you! :)

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