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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I have an island base in one of my games where the naval support present at the base is not appearing on the Base Screen, and is not being utilized in loading/unloading (I checked the rates).

Port is size 3(0). It is not damaged (shouldn't matter).

2x USN Base Forces are present. The 100x Naval Support from each Base Force is at the base.

For that matter, I picked up unit fragments and returned them to the base, thinking that maybe there was a weird bug happening where the full unit needed to be there.

The base has full supplies (shouldn't matter).

Both base forces were previously present at other islands, and their Naval Support totals were included for those bases when they were there.

Initially, I only had 1 USN Base Force at the island. I added the 2nd to see if it would be counted, but it is not.

So it seems to be a problem with the base, and not with the units?

The units are in Combat mode. First thing I checked.

What gives?

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ORIGINAL: btd64

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I have an island base in one of my games where the naval support present at the base is not appearing on the Base Screen, and is not being utilized in loading/unloading (I checked the rates).

Port is size 3(0). It is not damaged (shouldn't matter).

2x USN Base Forces are present. The 100x Naval Support from each Base Force is at the base.

For that matter, I picked up unit fragments and returned them to the base, thinking that maybe there was a weird bug happening where the full unit needed to be there.

The base has full supplies (shouldn't matter).

Both base forces were previously present at other islands, and their Naval Support totals were included for those bases when they were there.

Initially, I only had 1 USN Base Force at the island. I added the 2nd to see if it would be counted, but it is not.

So it seems to be a problem with the base, and not with the units?

The units are in Combat mode. First thing I checked.

What gives?

I believe this is a know bug. From my experience the bases around the North Pacific are a problem. What mod are you playing?....GP

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Out of curiosity, what HQ is the base assigned to?

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ORIGINAL: Pentakomo

Nauru Island, Iba not affected by naval support. Nav support not shown and also dont allow to rearm ships.
Example:
Nauru Island, port 3, Naval HQ with 240 navsupport and range 9.
Cannot rearm 12cm/45 3YT gun (which required port 3 and 40 navsupp) and 53 cm torpedo type 92 (port 3 and 204 navsupp required).
Ocean Island also not affected (range 4 from Nauru, when Naval HQ have range 9). But Tarawa (range 9 from Nauru) correctly show navsupp 24.
Screenshots

P.S. No mods, scenario 2 Hakko Ichu, ver. 1.8.11.26b

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Does the Naval HQ have NS squads or just Support squads?

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ORIGINAL: Pentakomo

Nauru Island, Iba not affected by naval support. Nav support not shown and also dont allow to rearm ships.

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ORIGINAL: Pentakomo

This is changed in beta patch? Because before it always affect any port from 0. Wonder why we have naval support units like Shipping Engineers if they cannot gain port or beach navy support?
Here some screenshots from latest official patch (1.7.11.24)game
Coff Harbour port 0(0) have 160 navsupp from area Naval HQs
Nauru have 240 nav support from NE Fleet Command HQ (240 navsupp)
Ocean Island have 48 navsupp from area NE Fleet
Tarawa 24 nav supp from same HQ

P.S. Also manual dont said port must have initial size >0, but only port size + nav support for rearm ships or load/unload rate. Im think it bug when initial port size value used for calculation.

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

Even though I hate to contradict Alfred, the latest official version as per "my page" is the 1126a version and it does have the Naval Support bug present. The 1124 version did not, but does not seem to be available anymore.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Whether it is a bug or WAD, I am glad it is there....especially to protect from bombardment spam. It doesn't stop it, but it does slow the pace down a bit.

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ORIGINAL: Kull

Alfred - it probably is a bug (although personally I think it makes size (0) ports less useful and is thus beneficial), but it absolutely was not introduced by the beta patch. v1.01.26a is the last official release, and it has exactly the same issue.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Alfred,

You should occasionally post images from your games in the war room and let everybody see and speculate on what you have done. Of course I speculate this is from one of your games.

June 1945!

Australia Command (R). Interesting, means you most likely never lost the base.

Divebombers and fighters...not many, plentiful supply (almost max), handful of smaller ships, including disbanded pt boats, fairly strong ground forces but a lot of unemployed engineers (an Allied luxury).

No recon or patrols, one assumes they are at Xmas Island.

Enggano is an interesting base...but it is left undeveloped...one supposes this is a backwater, that the SRA holdings of Japan have been isolated and contained and bypassed. Japan's shipping at Batavia are probably small craft.

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

According to the download page, patch 7 ( version 1124 ) is no longer available.
Patch 8 ( version 1126a ) is the official patch download now. I know that in the
past patch 8 was a beta patch, but it seems it no longer is a beta, but the official
patch.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Alfred,

You should occasionally post images from your games in the war room and let everybody see and speculate on what you have done. Of course I speculate this is from one of your games.

June 1945!

Australia Command (R). Interesting, means you most likely never lost the base.

Divebombers and fighters...not many, plentiful supply (almost max), handful of smaller ships, including disbanded pt boats, fairly strong ground forces but a lot of unemployed engineers (an Allied luxury).

No recon or patrols, one assumes they are at Xmas Island.

Enggano is an interesting base...but it is left undeveloped...one supposes this is a backwater, that the SRA holdings of Japan have been isolated and contained and bypassed. Japan's shipping at Batavia are probably small craft.

Yes, it is a game of mine against the computer on Very Hard in an Ironman scenario. Istopped playing it 12 months ago as other things have occupied my time. I will go back to it. When I do, the first thing I have to do is to sort out the Soviet air force dispositions to match units with HQs. Second thing is to do the same for the Soviet army. I've left it a bit late to do this exercise as there is only 2 months before Soviet activation.

Yes, air recon is out of Christmas Island. Better infrastructure and closer proximity to Java. Both those islands have secured the Abadan to Perth fuel shipment route which otherwise would be vulnerable to Japanese interception. It also further protects the Capetown to Perth SLOC. Cocos primary role is to protect the resupply SLOC to Christmas and provide a defense in depth for Christmas.

Eggano is not necessary as the island off Sabang suffices and provides greater flexibility.

The engineers have only just finished their infrastructure work. They remain unemployed because they are intrinsic to the other important devices contained in the Base Forces. They also provide insurance that the base can quickly recover from any enemy bombardments. And as you pointed out, I'm not exactly short on engineers elsewhere.

As to posting screenshots in the WarRoom, well they would only be from AI games so automatically dismissed by a lot of the PBEM snobs. Plus I don't play to hobble the computer and boost my ego so all those AI players who go out of their way to smash the AI would be equally dismissive on the grounds of "nothing to see here, thus nothing to learn".

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

According to the download page, patch 7 ( version 1124 ) is no longer available.
Patch 8 ( version 1126a ) is the official patch download now. I know that in the
past patch 8 was a beta patch, but it seems it no longer is a beta, but the official
patch.

The Beta is unofficial, so it is not offered on the download site. It is offered in the Tech section of this forum.

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

According to the download page, patch 7 ( version 1124 ) is no longer available.
Patch 8 ( version 1126a ) is the official patch download now. I know that in the
past patch 8 was a beta patch, but it seems it no longer is a beta, but the official
patch.

The Beta is unofficial, so it is not offered on the download site. It is offered in the Tech section of this forum.

You are missing the pint, when patch 8, version 1126a, was first released it was a beta patch, not an official patch. It has been changed and now is the official patch.