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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 4:29:05 PM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 4:35:35 PM   
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How about Hamburger Hill for the music?

How about To Hell and Back which caused a PTSD flashback for one of the actors? He is one of those who testified before the US Congress to do something about PTSD?

How about The Lost Battalion with Rick Shroeder? Now you see the Sergeant, now you see his helmet rolling by? If I recall correctly, the actor was an Englishman. An African portrays an Texan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287535/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w

How about The Horse Soldiers based a a true raid during the American Civil War?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 4:56:24 PM   
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Waterloo is FANTASTIC!!

Napoleon commits the Guard.

"Now Maitland! Now's your time!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oLflPilcMc





How could you not love a movie where at the height of the Cold War, the Soviet Army ended up lending 15,000 of own its men to play Napoleonic era soldiers? And then they were trained for weeks to give them authentic Napoleonic drills and manners while the other 2,000 had a more intensive training since they were required to load and fire muskets for the cameras.


"Give me night or give me Blucher." He did not get the night but his prayer was answered.

The Soviet union got a lot of money for that movie then. I don't know about the Soviet Army but the Polish Army did field exercises when the men harvested potatoes.

In the 1950's, Americans helped the Soviet agriculture sector. Iowa farmer Roswell Garst "It would be dangerous for the world to have a Russia that is both hungry and has the H-bomb." Krushchev even toured the US and visited with him.


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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 5:22:04 PM   
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Krushchev even toured the US and visited with him.




That reminds me of my favorite east-west photo op. In 1973, Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev visited the US. While here he met with his favorite TV star, Chuck Connors of 'The Rifleman', who presented him with a matched pair of Colt .45s. Later, as Brezhnev embraced him, Connors (six-foot-six) lifted him off the ground in return.



I'm not sure how Brezhnev caught the T.V. show, but I doubt Soviet audiences did.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 8:26:30 PM   
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Days of Glory, a 2006 French film about unsung WWII Arab soldiers. It was nominated for an Oscar for Best Foreign Film. After French Premier Jacques Chirac saw the film, he agreed to compensate all North Africans who fought in World War II.

The Legend of Suriyothai (2001), the 16th century Thailand - Burmese war, etc. A sweeping epic with war elephants, based on the life of Queen Suriyothai. Presented by Francis Ford Coppola. Try to see the 3 hour version.

Kanal (1957), Andrzej Wajda's acclaimed film about war in the sewers during the Warsaw Uprising. The middle film in his WWII trilogy.











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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 9:07:14 PM   
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Das Boot is German.

Tora Tora Tora is a joint American-Japanese film.

Flags of our Fathers and Letter to Iwo Jima are also joint American-Japanese films. Both are very good.

The Seven Samari, which not set in a war per se, is a good Japanese film as well. Remakes have been made from it.

I did like Hurricane, which is about a Polish fighter unit in the RAF, with one crazy Czech plus one dual Swiss-Polish pilot.

The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit are also both good.

I have yet to see Pearl Harbor. I should buy a copy so I can see how 2 out of the 9 admitted American fighter pilots in the RAF wiped out the German Luftwaffe, then shot down the entire Kibo Butai strike force, and then took off from and American aircraft carrier and bombed Japan so it sank. At least, that is what I heard about the movie.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 9:22:42 PM   
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The Seven Samari, which not set in a war per se, is a good Japanese film as well. Remakes have been made from it.


Akira Kurosawa did that one, he also did an interpretation of King Lear, Japanese style in his excellent movie Ran.





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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 9:33:03 PM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/23/2020 9:37:08 PM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 12:33:08 AM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 12:54:55 AM   
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As for worst, I can look at a war movie and realize how terribly unrealistic it is -- my wife does not permit me to comment on the errors in such movies if we watch one together -- but still enjoy it as being like a historical novel. There are a couple that I just won't watch even if I have the opportunity. Battle of the Bulge probably tops that list.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 2:18:56 AM   
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How about Patton for the mild language?

How about Hamburger Hill for the music?

How about To Hell and Back which caused a PTSD flashback for one of the actors? He is one of those who testified before the US Congress to do something about PTSD?

How about The Lost Battalion with Rick Shroeder? Now you see the Sergeant, now you see his helmet rolling by? If I recall correctly, the actor was an Englishman. An African portrays an Texan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287535/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w

How about The Horse Soldiers based a a true raid during the American Civil War?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w


I would suggest "best Years of Our Lives" to your list. Shows the troubles that 3 vets had returning to regular life after fighting in a war.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 2:59:19 AM   
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Oh yeah, we were soldiers and the one guy in the battle, Rescora I think died on 9/11 as head of security and went back into the buildings to help. I hope I got the name right


Rick Rescorla Lest we forget.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 10:40:25 AM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 2:01:52 PM   
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It had its moments :

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 4:59:41 PM   
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How about Patton for the mild language?

How about Hamburger Hill for the music?

How about To Hell and Back which caused a PTSD flashback for one of the actors? He is one of those who testified before the US Congress to do something about PTSD?

How about The Lost Battalion with Rick Shroeder? Now you see the Sergeant, now you see his helmet rolling by? If I recall correctly, the actor was an Englishman. An African portrays an Texan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287535/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w

How about The Horse Soldiers based a a true raid during the American Civil War?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w


I would suggest "best Years of Our Lives" to your list. Shows the troubles that 3 vets had returning to regular life after fighting in a war.


An excellent movie. One of the actors received two Oscars for his role.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 5:00:50 PM   
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Oh yeah, we were soldiers and the one guy in the battle, Rescora I think died on 9/11 as head of security and went back into the buildings to help. I hope I got the name right


Rick Rescorla Lest we forget.


I met someone who was in that battle. We did not talk about it. I thanked him for his service.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 6:42:44 PM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 7:57:11 PM   
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How about Patton for the mild language?

How about Hamburger Hill for the music?

How about To Hell and Back which caused a PTSD flashback for one of the actors? He is one of those who testified before the US Congress to do something about PTSD?

How about The Lost Battalion with Rick Shroeder? Now you see the Sergeant, now you see his helmet rolling by? If I recall correctly, the actor was an Englishman. An African portrays an Texan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287535/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w

How about The Horse Soldiers based a a true raid during the American Civil War?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w


I would suggest "best Years of Our Lives" to your list. Shows the troubles that 3 vets had returning to regular life after fighting in a war.


An excellent movie. One of the actors received two Oscars for his role.


I second this movie! The actor you speak of was a handicapped vet in his first time acting role!!!

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 8:06:50 PM   
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How about Patton for the mild language?

How about Hamburger Hill for the music?

How about To Hell and Back which caused a PTSD flashback for one of the actors? He is one of those who testified before the US Congress to do something about PTSD?

How about The Lost Battalion with Rick Shroeder? Now you see the Sergeant, now you see his helmet rolling by? If I recall correctly, the actor was an Englishman. An African portrays an Texan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287535/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w

How about The Horse Soldiers based a a true raid during the American Civil War?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YfEPxLh2w


I would suggest "best Years of Our Lives" to your list. Shows the troubles that 3 vets had returning to regular life after fighting in a war.


An excellent movie. One of the actors received two Oscars for his role.


I second this movie! The actor you speak of was a handicapped vet in his first time acting role!!!


He acted in some military ones, I think for the US Army if I remember correctly.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 8:10:57 PM   
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Worst? I guess the Rambo series eh

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 8:28:06 PM   
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Der Untergang (Downfall)
Stalingrad (1993)

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/24/2020 9:23:55 PM   
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Worst Pearl Harbour

Other greats....Stalingrad (1993), Downfall, Longest Day, Bridge to Far, We were soldiers,Apocalypse Now, Paths of Glory, Das Boot, Come See, Zulu, Waterloo, Aces High, Alexander the Great (I liked it..one with Colin Farrel) seen a few black white films that I enjoyed one was set during Korean War also a colour one set in Pacific following British troops, at the end two survivors have to run zig zag across a field to safety as the Japanese tried to shoot them down.

Other bad films..just to many to mention sadly.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 4:33:51 AM   
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"A Piece of Cake" The BBC miniseries about the RAF at the beginning of the war. Mini series is right up there with"Band of Brothers" in my opinion. The book is even better.

My best:
Band of Brothers 1A
A Piece of Cake 1B
Das Boot 2nd
Everything else is tied for 3rd, except for Pearl Harbour which is the most disapointing movie I have ever seen. I tried SO HARD to like it, but it is just crap.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 11:35:08 AM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 4:43:48 PM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 5:03:29 PM   
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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 5:11:02 PM   
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I have read about the battle for over sixty years, and this movie captures the situation well for a popular movie.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 5:44:49 PM   
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But remember, mold and fungus grows on you as well which is not necessarily a good thing.

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RE: Best or Worst War Movies of All Time - 8/25/2020 9:43:52 PM   
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