RangerJoe
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ORIGINAL: Ambassador Please, no. The term « forte » used in music is not French but Italian. And it’s never spelled « forté » in French (nor, AFAIK, in Italian, but I’m a native French speaker, not a native Italian speaker), it’s just the Italian pronunciation, with an accentuated final syllable. « Forte » in French means « strong », not strength (it may also mean « fat »). Strength is « force » with a « c », but still no « é ». « Forte » will be pronounced akin to « fort » in English, with a nearly silent -e, while « force » will be pronounced like « cross » would. « Sortie » would be pronounced like « sore » and « tee » (I’m never sure how to pronounce a final -y in English, so I can’t guess if « sorty » would be okay). « Sauté » is the piece of meat, and it would be pronounced like the Italian « forte » (at least for the ending). Not to be confused with « saute », which is a sudden change of pretty much anything (most often used in « une saute d’humeur » (mood swing)). And in French, it’s « filet » with a lone « f ». Have I caught everything ? Also: "Forte" in English usage, pronounced fore-tay, means a thing at which a person excels. EG: She is a talented opera singer, and her forte is the aria. The reason that in English we have two words for everything- in this example, forte and strength are interchangeable - is 1066. Before 1066 the Anglo-Saxons spoke a perfectly serviceable Germanic/Scandinavian type language. Although not the same as the language used by the various types of Vikings, they could understand one another sufficiently to communicate. Then the Normans (Vikings who had 'gone native' in France) arrived and imposed French on the populace. And the result is two words for everything, some of which have evolved into a specialised narrower, or wider meaning- like strength and forte. And its all the fault of the French Edit: Happy new year! Then some of the Viking spellings came back into English and that is why some words have a "y" instead of an "i." But not all Vikings were Germanic peoples.
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