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Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP attack ... - 1/23/2021 6:54:29 AM   
shri

 

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Ok, so i am the Entente and facing "THIS END UP". the Schlieffen was brilliant but expected. I had already written off Belgium mentally.

The naval invasion was unexpected. Suddenly the RN is 2 BBs (+4 cruisers and a destroyer) down for the loss of 1 sub, 1 old BB and 1 BC on his side. Of course his fleet has suffered damages too (2 of his BBs are 5+ damaged). Still now my dilemma is 2 fold -
Keep the fleet in the channel on the defense or start blockading in Scapa flow with the risk that the Channel may get mined.?
I don't mind losing the cruisers, the DD hurts and the BB hurts badly in terms of NM.
Any tips? Thanks in advance.
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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/23/2021 9:50:16 AM   
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Don't take too much notice of me, but I would go to Scapa Flow to blockade and I would defend the Channel with my own mines and subs. I would try and rebuild the Destroyer as soon as I could.

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/23/2021 11:55:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: shri

Ok, so i am the Entente and facing "THIS END UP". the Schlieffen was brilliant but expected. I had already written off Belgium mentally.

The naval invasion was unexpected. Suddenly the RN is 2 BBs (+4 cruisers and a destroyer) down for the loss of 1 sub, 1 old BB and 1 BC on his side. Of course his fleet has suffered damages too (2 of his BBs are 5+ damaged). Still now my dilemma is 2 fold -
Keep the fleet in the channel on the defense or start blockading in Scapa flow with the risk that the Channel may get mined.?
I don't mind losing the cruisers, the DD hurts and the BB hurts badly in terms of NM.
Any tips? Thanks in advance.


Go to this forum thread, at the bottom of page 2, and read on.
'Why are subs so much worse in this game vs WIE and WAW?'

It details my encounter with ThisEndUp's Imperial German Navy....the most brilliant foray of the IGN I ever encountered in a pbem++ match of SC-WW1.

I can't give you advice for an on going match, and ThisEndUp is a regular opponent of mine. Also, he may read it and use it against you! :))
If you read the thread, the record speaks for itself since it was after the game was over. I was hesitant even then to reveal this stratagem of his...but he took credit for it later..well deserved credit I might add.

I will say this though (as advice I guess after all). Be very very careful out in the high seas of the Atlantic for the rest of the War. You have a cunning and very smart opponent that knows how to use the IGN to great effect!

< Message edited by OldCrowBalthazor -- 1/23/2021 12:27:21 PM >

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/23/2021 5:38:09 PM   
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If you have determined that the German navy is out in the north sea, then it's time for your Russian baltic fleet to raid the Swedish convoy lines

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/24/2021 8:10:14 AM   
shri

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OldCrowBalthazor

quote:

ORIGINAL: shri

Ok, so i am the Entente and facing "THIS END UP". the Schlieffen was brilliant but expected. I had already written off Belgium mentally.

The naval invasion was unexpected. Suddenly the RN is 2 BBs (+4 cruisers and a destroyer) down for the loss of 1 sub, 1 old BB and 1 BC on his side. Of course his fleet has suffered damages too (2 of his BBs are 5+ damaged). Still now my dilemma is 2 fold -
Keep the fleet in the channel on the defense or start blockading in Scapa flow with the risk that the Channel may get mined.?
I don't mind losing the cruisers, the DD hurts and the BB hurts badly in terms of NM.
Any tips? Thanks in advance.


Go to this forum thread, at the bottom of page 2, and read on.
'Why are subs so much worse in this game vs WIE and WAW?'

It details my encounter with ThisEndUp's Imperial German Navy....the most brilliant foray of the IGN I ever encountered in a pbem++ match of SC-WW1.

I can't give you advice for an on going match, and ThisEndUp is a regular opponent of mine. Also, he may read it and use it against you! :))
If you read the thread, the record speaks for itself since it was after the game was over. I was hesitant even then to reveal this stratagem of his...but he took credit for it later..well deserved credit I might add.

I will say this though (as advice I guess after all). Be very very careful out in the high seas of the Atlantic for the rest of the War. You have a cunning and very smart opponent that knows how to use the IGN to great effect!



Thanks, that was helpful. I am still learning the game, i thought it's better to play PBEM and lose than play the boring AI, 7th game so far and have learnt something in each game. This one was the most enlightening.
Also have learnt a lot from you guys, Yourself, Chernobyl, Dozo, Tanaka etc. writings on the forums.

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/24/2021 11:39:48 PM   
OldCrowBalthazor


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quote:

ORIGINAL: shri

Thanks, that was helpful. I am still learning the game, i thought it's better to play PBEM and lose than play the boring AI, 7th game so far and have learnt something in each game. This one was the most enlightening.
Also have learnt a lot from you guys, Yourself, Chernobyl, Dozo, Tanaka etc. writings on the forums.


Your welcome! I learn a lot from these guys too...and others here on the forums and on the battlefield.

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/30/2021 8:38:22 AM   
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Well well well. I leave the forum for a week or so and what do I find? Enemies, new and old, conspiring against me.

If I were you, I'd invest heavily in ASW. An effective screen does wonders against a sub-supported sally by the Hochseeflotte.

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 1/30/2021 9:54:55 AM   
OldCrowBalthazor


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThisEndUp

Well well well. I leave the forum for a week or so and what do I find? Enemies, new and old, conspiring against me.

If I were you, I'd invest heavily in ASW. An effective screen does wonders against a sub-supported sally by the Hochseeflotte.


Tah! No conspiring from me....I merely pointed the direction for Shri to go to read the 'historical' documents about this action in an alternative universe.

I have to say, when I read the title of this post...before reading on, that I knew Exactly what you must of done to Shri lol. And anyway, the title of the thread looked like a 'Wanted Poster' of the old American West, which I took as both a bit shocking and amusing at the same time.

So Darius, wear your notoriety with a badge of honor!

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RE: Anyone who has faced "THIS END UP" CP att... - 2/5/2021 9:56:36 AM   
shri

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThisEndUp

Well well well. I leave the forum for a week or so and what do I find? Enemies, new and old, conspiring against me.

If I were you, I'd invest heavily in ASW. An effective screen does wonders against a sub-supported sally by the Hochseeflotte.



I am the culprit who started this conspiracy!. To say that i was impressed by the start is an understatement. I have been busy the past two weeks with some urgent personal stuff and thus delayed my turns, but i started this topic to understand that game.

Some background - i read the manual and played only 2 single player games and i got bored of the game, then i found that many play MPP here, i kept challenging at random and have completed 7 games and have another 4 running now.
Everything i learnt is via this forum and via these opponents moves.

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