RangerJoe
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Good morning everyone,
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Good evening, gentlemen, ladies.
I made a lawyer weep, this afternoon.
Again.
That shouldn't be happening. In my humble opinion, that is. Are the layers not prepared for some resistance to what they say? 
Maybe we, the older generations, should prepare them better for life?
Or maybe I just got it wrong. 
Younger ones can’t seem to imagine to be wrong, or being refused what they ask. Too many don’t look up the laws applicable to the case, and imagine they only need to say that their « client has realized the gravity of their situation and started to change » to magically have a reduced fine. Or are upset by the slightest resistance to their arguments.
To their credits, they often are not prepared nor coached enough by their mentors. Lawyers here have to start their work in a three-year apprenticeship to an older barrister, but these masters often only see their apprentices as cheap labor, and do not devote much time to accompany them at the court. So, bad habits are taken...
Yes. Although I was thinking that this needs to be worked on long before they begin working as apprentices. But what do I know. 
That is why I think that while they are still in law school that they should attend court sessions like yours or at least see the videos, then the class can have a discussion about the lawyer. That is, if they can keep from laughing!
Who knows, maybe a police officer can give them a personal invitation to attend a court hearing.
Yeah, don’t get me started on the quality, or lack of, of the law graduates. In my time (and I’m not all that old), we used to attend court hearings on our free time, to see and hear how things were done, or took time in the school’s library to peruse books and law reviews, including on subjects we were not required to learn at that moment. Nowadays, they only do it if there’s an official university program which will reward them some credits for doing so.
By the way, I personally know, very well, a former law student who was personally invited to attend a court hearing for speeding, and who ended as judge twenty years later... Like the saying goes, the best game wardens are former poachers.
The guy depicted in Catch Me If You Can helped the FBI while still in prison, then went on to assist in bank security. An excellent book, he describes how he did it. While in Swedish prison he took classes in graphic arts where he knew more than the instructor. A couple of things that I remember is how to slow a legitimate check through the system if it is not scanned and cashed immediately.
Also to catch a criminal, you have to know how to think like one.
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