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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 9:05:32 PM   
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Yes I live up in Auckland quite some distance from the quake zone, but yeah this one is going to affect the whole country one way or another.    New Zealand is only about the same size and Colorado and has a similar population of around 4 million.   Most people in NZ would know someone or have family living in the area.

Around 360,000 people live in the quake zone.   There are around 160,000 houses, and they estimate that around 100,000 of them have been damaged in some way.

The aftershocks have been rather ongoing, and the folks down south have had a number of sleepless nights.   Now that the initial shock of the quake has worn off, people are now facing the reality of the long term ongoing disruption, from those who have damaged houses, to those whose places of work...  especially the older pre-WW2 concrete buildings in the downtown area which collapsed, or need to be demolished because they are beyond repair.    For some people their workplace or office building simply no longer exists.

Today they announced that one of the supermarkets, in one of the badly hit areas will need to close for a year so that it can be re-built.   That supermarket employs over 80 people.    This will only be the beginning as other business are forced to close because of the quake.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 9:08:32 PM   
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Glad to hear you are OK Al! Thanks for the pictures. George was talking about "Taking the war to the Home Islands ..." I am not sure what this actually means ...

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 9:20:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have several friends who live in NZ but they are all around Hamilton way up on the North island so I'm guessing they're fine. My heart goes out to everyone in Christchurch and NZ.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 10:10:30 PM   
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My heart goes out to everyone in Christchurch and NZ.


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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/23/2011 1:43:17 AM   
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Hi;

My family and I are fine. Divepak lives a good distance further south and should be OK.

The first quake was pretty awful but this one, while being smaller on the richter scale, was closer and shallower. It also appeared to be lateral shaking rather than vertical, which the first one appeared to be. Buildings that had survived the first shake and 4000 aftershocks were probably slowly being undermined (although very regularly checked). This time they came down, and not just heritage buildings (altough they've been seriously thumped this time too). The central city has been seriously damaged with liquifaction.

I went INTO town to pick up my son. A picture of the liquifaction covering cars as I tried to drive past







Wow..that is an amazing amount of liquifaction! Is the area an old riverbed or fill? Can you imagine all the foundations?

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/23/2011 3:50:21 AM   
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Heard it just now!

Hey I hope all of you guys in the Christchurch area are ok!!!

Good luck over there, I wish I could do something to help.



Same here (regarding LoBaron's post) Has me worried! This is so devastating! I hope everyone will be ok. I saw the coverage on TV tonight. It broke my heart. I hope we can provide any assistance we can!

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/24/2011 6:38:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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ORIGINAL: aprezto

Hi;

My family and I are fine. Divepak lives a good distance further south and should be OK.

The first quake was pretty awful but this one, while being smaller on the richter scale, was closer and shallower. It also appeared to be lateral shaking rather than vertical, which the first one appeared to be. Buildings that had survived the first shake and 4000 aftershocks were probably slowly being undermined (although very regularly checked). This time they came down, and not just heritage buildings (altough they've been seriously thumped this time too). The central city has been seriously damaged with liquifaction.

I went INTO town to pick up my son. A picture of the liquifaction covering cars as I tried to drive past







Wow..that is an amazing amount of liquifaction! Is the area an old riverbed or fill? Can you imagine all the foundations?



Hi Cap;

Yes Canterbury is on a large alluvial plain. A lot of the city was built on drained swamp land too. In hindsight not such a clever step. Liquifaction has hit in spades. Out my gate there are very regular mounds of silt 2 metres high (pushed there by residents or road workers). Silt Silt everywhere.
My house is standing. I have power. I have Internet. I have running water - although of dubious quality and pressure. Just no waste water. Managed to restock the food this morning. All in all - we are in very good shape. So much better off than others.
My immediate boss is camping in his back lawn - his house has cracked in two. His boss' house has filled with half a meter of silt and slumped to one side - will also have to be bowled. I work for a general practitioner support company, one of our surgeries was in one of the towers that fell - of the 11 (at the latest estimate) there at the time one survived.
Certainly it is unreal

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/25/2011 2:43:03 AM   
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Good to see that you have come through.

I've been watching a lot of coverage on Sky, as many reporters had been affected in some way its been good. Sadly the lot that arrived from OZ have been a bit tmore dramatic.
After comparing their coverage of the Cyclone with the comments from my sister who lives in Cardwell (about 30km from the eye) I prefer to watch the pictures and turn down the sound.
Sad because its such a terrible occaision. i also live in a town that was burnt out many years back so my wife's family have memories of similar devastation & loss of life.

Someone wrote of OZ being a land of "Droughts & Flooding Rains", what did they write about the shaky islands??

I booked a trip to CChurch on 1 Sept last year, for travel starting 3 March. (Maybe its all my fault, we went to Ayers Rock last year and got flooded out of Kings Canyon & the Todd flowed twice during our stay!)

So after checking with the Motels & car company I'll fly in at midnight, stay a night and head to Dunnydin and the Southland for a fortnight.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/25/2011 2:51:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: aprezto


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: aprezto

Hi;

My family and I are fine. Divepak lives a good distance further south and should be OK.

The first quake was pretty awful but this one, while being smaller on the richter scale, was closer and shallower. It also appeared to be lateral shaking rather than vertical, which the first one appeared to be. Buildings that had survived the first shake and 4000 aftershocks were probably slowly being undermined (although very regularly checked). This time they came down, and not just heritage buildings (altough they've been seriously thumped this time too). The central city has been seriously damaged with liquifaction.

I went INTO town to pick up my son. A picture of the liquifaction covering cars as I tried to drive past







Wow..that is an amazing amount of liquifaction! Is the area an old riverbed or fill? Can you imagine all the foundations?



Hi Cap;

Yes Canterbury is on a large alluvial plain. A lot of the city was built on drained swamp land too. In hindsight not such a clever step. Liquifaction has hit in spades. Out my gate there are very regular mounds of silt 2 metres high (pushed there by residents or road workers). Silt Silt everywhere.
My house is standing. I have power. I have Internet. I have running water - although of dubious quality and pressure. Just no waste water. Managed to restock the food this morning. All in all - we are in very good shape. So much better off than others.
My immediate boss is camping in his back lawn - his house has cracked in two. His boss' house has filled with half a meter of silt and slumped to one side - will also have to be bowled. I work for a general practitioner support company, one of our surgeries was in one of the towers that fell - of the 11 (at the latest estimate) there at the time one survived.
Certainly it is unreal



I am glad to hear you are ok. Terrible news about the loss of life.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/25/2011 3:52:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll be heading to a fundraiser put on by the local Kiwi Chamber of Commerce, of which I am a member, and NZ Embassy this evening. I've got quite a few NZ friends and clients and this is a shocker. Although I lost an Aussie friend in the Queensland floods, I think everyone I know survived this one. Of course, that's no comfort for those with family and friends buried under rubble.

All the best to you Kiwis on this forum. I'm sure you'll pull through this and be better than ever.

Cheers,
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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/25/2011 9:01:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		The first one was 'wow, we got away with it'. Honestly we were patting ourselves on the back at how our building codes had saved everyone. Lots of that stuff. Everyone knew that it was because of the time the first one hit - 4 in the morning. and secretly we all saw the damage that the first one cause to places that would have been filled with people during a business day lunchtime.

this was during a business day lunchtime.

The first quake was 7.1 on the richter scale, 45 km from Christchurch, at a depth of 15 km, with a ground acceleration of .8 G ( basically the sideways speed the quake goes). The latest one was 6.3 richter but 10 km from Christchurch at 5 km depth, but with a ground acceleration of 1.2 G.... this is the difference.

There was 30 million tonnes of silt came up with liquifaction last earthquake, this time it is 120- 160 million.

I am a little humbled. I just don't know how to portray the depth of it. The place is trashed. It takes 4 hours to cross a space that would usually take 15 minutes.

All this aside - New Zealand is one of the most earthquake prepared nations in the world. Things could have been so much worse.




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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/25/2011 9:13:09 AM   
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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/25/2011 10:13:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		The damage looks very severe. But the aftermath can be harder to live through. Best wishes to our NZ cousins for a quick recovery. I trust your next few weeks will be helped with world wide support and aid. I'm off to make some donations too.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/26/2011 3:42:02 AM   
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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/27/2011 9:36:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		My family and I are fine we live in Christchurch .... No power or water or sewer it all stuffed house has cracks right thru it and some door wont shut but liveable ... sleeping downstairs atm with kids

Yikes another big after shock




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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/28/2011 6:52:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gday Crocky

Seems like there are areas VERY badly damaged and others with only minimal damage. Hopefully it will settle down soon and you can get back to rebuilding, if its not too windy!. And only if you can entice all those tradies who fled to Cairns & Brisbane back onto the job.

I'm heading there on Wednesday and have been told (hopefully truthfully) that I'll be OK.  Heading south after a couple of days to see the sights.

PS, My wifes family name id Blair, got any Convicts in the family tree?


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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/28/2011 8:25:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		We ended up raising 7 million won on Friday night (that sounds like a lot, but it's actually about $6,500). A small amount, but it will hopefully make people's lives a bit easier down there.

Cheers,
CC

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/28/2011 8:42:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now 150 people confirmed dead with a whole lot more still missing. I live on the west side of the city and everything is pretty much okay here apart from a few less chimneys than there were.
Aprezto is right in saying we were extremely lucky the first time and we all hoped the city had 'gotten away with it.' Apparently not though.

Thanks to everyone who is helping out. Its really amazing and humbling how generous people have been.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/28/2011 9:42:13 AM   
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Now 150 people confirmed dead with a whole lot more still missing. I live on the west side of the city and everything is pretty much okay here apart from a few less chimneys than there were.
Aprezto is right in saying we were extremely lucky the first time and we all hoped the city had 'gotten away with it.' Apparently not though.

Thanks to everyone who is helping out. Its really amazing and humbling how generous people have been.


Glad you are safe.

Do you guys know of any charity funds that may have been set up in case any of us might wish to help out ?

There is this of course: http://www.redcross.org.nz/cms_display.php

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/28/2011 10:48:57 AM   
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/promotions/news/article.cfm?c_id=500848&objectid=10671104

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/9/2011 9:11:24 PM   
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http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2011/03/post-earthquake-images-of-christchurch.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+blogspot/SbSV+(Google+LatLong)&utm_content=Google+Reader

One of the satellite companies is making high resolution images of Christchurch post-quake available via Google Earth. Download the KML file mentioned in the blog post (this file http://mw1.google.com/crisisresponse/2011/christchurch_earthquake/earthquake/geoeye/Christchurch_GeoEye-1_2011-02-26/Christchurch_GeoEye-1_2011-02-26.kml) and load it into Google Earth (Control-o).

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/9/2011 9:17:17 PM   
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I found a list of places taking donations

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/promotions/news/article.cfm?c_id=500848&objectid=10671104




Just make sure they are legit, and not a phony. Happens all the time, unfortunately.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/10/2011 7:01:50 AM   
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I found a list of places taking donations

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/promotions/news/article.cfm?c_id=500848&objectid=10671104




Just make sure they are legit, and not a phony. Happens all the time, unfortunately.


Good advice always. I decided to just donate via the Salvation Army.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/10/2011 1:30:10 PM   
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My family and I are fine we live in Christchurch .... No power or water or sewer it all stuffed house has cracks right thru it and some door wont shut but liveable ... sleeping downstairs atm with kids

Yikes another big after shock





Crocky ! I am glad to hear that you are safe and well. For those of you who are new(ish) to this forum Crocky was one of the best players in the old days of Uncommon Valour, the grand daddy to WiTP-AE. Tis good to see some of the real old timers are still around.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/17/2021 1:36:20 PM   
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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/17/2021 1:38:46 PM   
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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/17/2021 2:09:45 PM   
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Already reported him, GP.


Me too . . .

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/17/2021 2:15:59 PM   
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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/17/2021 4:09:46 PM   
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Already reported him, GP.


Me too . . .

I was going to do it, but I suppose it’s of no use.


A ten-year necromancy, isn’t that some kind of record ?

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 3/17/2021 4:24:23 PM   
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