Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: neuromancer

There was a fair amount of talk about it on the forum way back in the day. I stopped even trying to play the game after less than a year and didn't keep up with what was going on, so maybe they eventually fixed it in the original game, but I doubt it.

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Fortification Level 5: Cannot be built during the game.

Fortification Level 4: Must have a fort unit in the hex and
the hex must either be City/Urban/Heavy Urban terrain
or contain a port (of any size). Once built, no unit is not
needed to keep the level 4 fortification.

Fortification Levels 2 or 3: Must either be 1) adjacent to
an enemy hex, or 2) a City/Urban/Heavy Urban terrain
hex, or 3) contain a port (of any size), or 4) contain a
fortified zone unit in the hex. Once the level 3 is reached,
the condition does not have to continue to be met to
keep the level 3 fortification.

Fortification Level 1: Must be within 20 hexes

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ORIGINAL: neuromancer

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Has the encirclement mechanics in WitE2 been completely rebuilt to not be so silly?

2. 1942 Trench Warfare. In WitE even if you did well as the Acis in 1941, come 1942 it was nearly impossible to advance because the Soviets were so deeply entrenched 1942 became more like 1915 in the West. Historically 1942 in the East was a fluid back and forth of the Soviets being pushed back and then in return regaining lost ground. This is admittedly something that several East Front games I've played have a large problem with modeling (which causes some to skip trying to model it and just focus on Barbarossa, or only do scenarios specifically designed to recreate the circumstances(.

Has the Defensive AI and defensive mechanics been redesigned to prevent this 'trench warfare' in the East, or is there still no point in trying to go from 1941 to 1942?


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ORIGINAL: 821Bobo
So you basically can't build line of level 3 forts running from Leningrad down to Azov because you would need to build fort in every hex. Sure, units in contact with enough time given can dig to level 3 but once you achieve breakthrough enemy won't have time to dig in.

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings
As for #1, the basic mechanism is still in play. You must isolate a unit to keep it from being able to rout move away. In order to isolate it you must encircle it and keep it encircled until your next turn. Each turn is 1 week, so the only way to trap units is to surround them and keep them surrounded until your next turn. If you attack them on the turn they are first surrounded, it assumes that the lines are still fluid and they could get away. This allows us to simulate the closed and sealed pockets versus those that were not secure and allowed units to get away.

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ORIGINAL: loki100

2 - worth remembering that in #2 being pushed back and having low morale/exp/TOE leads to heavy losses - so there are a lot more ways for the Axis to generate mobile warfare in 1942 - and for the Soviets 1944 +

I've not seen anything like your description in the test games. Yes breaking a well fortified line can be a bit of an effort (it should be) but its fairly easy to generate the situation for mobile warfare due to the game mechanics

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ORIGINAL: Medicusa

About quick questions:
How exactly does interdiction work? If I create an inderdiction value of 4 on a field, does this mean the enemy has to pay 4 MP to move out of that hex?

How much interdiction can I stack on a field?

Does it matter if I interdict 7 days or just 1?

And why do my bombers sometimes get no escorts even though in the planning screen it said there are escorts assigned (in the result screen they show this with (XX)).

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ORIGINAL: neuromancer
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Good, good, sounds like this was fixed in the new game.


The first point about encirclement was more a pet peeve than anything, I just felt it could have been handled a lot better. Sounds like it still could use improvement, but I think I did learn to live with it. I suspect it was more a 'design for effect' thing than design for realism (i.e. making the player tie up forces to reduce those pocketed forces than being able to quickly make them surrender and move on, which - as I said - didn't actually happen that much).

The second point about East Front Trench Warfare, that was more of a deal breaker. But it really sounds that they fixed it, and with simply limiting the ability to entrench in the course of the game so that the Soviet conscripts with inadequate supplies aren't somehow assembling the Maginot line in the middle of the steppes!

Glad to hear it, thanks for the replies.

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ORIGINAL: neuromancer
2. 1942 Trench Warfare. In WitE even if you did well as the Acis in 1941, come 1942 it was nearly impossible to advance because the Soviets were so deeply entrenched 1942 became more like 1915 in the West.

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ORIGINAL: neuromancer

2. 1942 Trench Warfare. In WitE even if you did well as the Acis in 1941, come 1942 it was nearly impossible to advance because the Soviets were so deeply entrenched 1942 became more like 1915 in the West. Historically 1942 in the East was a fluid back and forth of the Soviets being pushed back and then in return regaining lost ground. This is admittedly something that several East Front games I've played have a large problem with modeling (which causes some to skip trying to model it and just focus on Barbarossa, or only do scenarios specifically designed to recreate the circumstances

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Soviet Fortified Units cost 2 and are limited to a total of 40. German units cost 4 administrative points.