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Collapsed Vichy - 4/5/2021 4:15:13 PM

HoseJockey

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Howdy all, Playing Global War...

I just collapsed Vichy France with the Germans. I want both the Germans and Italians to advance on Spain (to hopefully take Gibraltar). My problem is I can't figure out why my Italian forces won't advance into what was Vichy France. I tried to declare war on France, nothing.

I don't want Italy to declare war on the commonwealth just yet if I don't have to. I guess what I'm asking is how does Italy align with the Germans so I can move thru occupied France.

New to the game (LOVE IT!), please help

Hose

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RE: Collapsed Vichy - 4/5/2021 4:57:55 PM

davidachamberlain

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All you need to do is to enter the Vichy territory and collapse is automatic.

No DOW required.

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RE: Collapsed Vichy - 4/5/2021 6:01:43 PM

paulderynck

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As OP stated, it was already collapsed by Germany. If Italy is neutral, it cannot enter territory it does not control. Your choices are:

1. Bite the bullet and declare war on the Commonwealth. This makes Italy active and thus it can take full action choices rather than only Combined actions in which it can only move one naval unit.

2. IF playing with the invasion from SCS option, the impulse that Germany attacks Spain then also DoW Spain with Italy and invade somewhere with some divisions. Advantage is both get Surprise against Spain but disadvantage is it generates double the U.S. entry. Also Italy would still not be active and would be restricted to Combineds. They are not active until at war with a major power. Italy can't wait until the impulse after Germany attacks because Spain will already then be aligned with the CW.

Edit: I don't know why Italy could not declare war on France and become active. Collapsing Vichy should have created Free France. Are you sure you declared war on Free France with Italy? Maybe wait for the next impulse and see if you can. Since collapse happens during an impulse and declarations of war must be at the beginning of an impulse, perhaps it's a timing issue.

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RE: Collapsed Vichy - 4/5/2021 9:57:33 PM

HoseJockey

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Thanks guys,

I figured I had to go ahead and make a DOW against the Commonwealth... Ugh! not ready...

Re. Edit: I did declare war on France from the Italy's "Majors" screen. In my game, Algeria was Vichy France. I also was unable to Invade there with Italian troops. Maybe it is a timing issue. I'll experiment with that.

Thanks again paudderynck and davidachamberlain

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