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Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/13/2021 11:54:31 AM

KingHalford

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Anybody else getting incredibly slow performance when browsing the Strategems?

I'm playing on a large map and quite late into the game, but even clicking on the Strategem tab hangs the game up for almost 10 seconds in some cases.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/13/2021 2:35:26 PM

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Yes, probably it's the reason for the game auto-scrapping cards past a certain total number.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/14/2021 12:00:41 PM

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Even auto-scrapping cards isn't fixing this for me. It's the one issue remaining with the game for me now. If Vic can sort this, I'm happy :)

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/14/2021 12:13:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KingHalford

Even auto-scrapping cards isn't fixing this for me. It's the one issue remaining with the game for me now. If Vic can sort this, I'm happy :)

You know, you could manually scrap cards as well.

Not like you are using most of the cards you got in the first place :)

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/14/2021 1:50:08 PM

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Here's why I don't:

1. It's really tedious removing 30 cards a turn.
2. The sound effect for scrapping is really loud and annoying.
3. If you're doing well at the game, the game just generates new cards again the next turn.

Something has to be done. I've got a monstrously powerful CPU and yet this game makes it crawl to a standstill with this new scrapping system.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/14/2021 2:14:54 PM

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You know, you could defund the councils whose cards you do not need.
Or at least the card parts of the councils you still got use for.

Based on teh Stratagem Report, there seems to be a lineary increasing cost based on how many instances of any one Stratagem you already got.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/14/2021 4:22:20 PM

KingHalford

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That's a good idea, I'm probably wasting a lot of BP on those parts! But I still think the game lag issue could be fixed ;)

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/14/2021 4:35:50 PM

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Are you using a graphic mod for stratagems?

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/17/2021 7:18:26 AM

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Hi King,

Send me a savefile where it takes 10 seconds for the Stratagem Tab to open please.

I'll use that to see if I can speed things up.

Please send it over to vic@vrdesigns.net with a link to this thread.

Appreciated!

Best wishes,
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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/18/2021 7:52:37 PM

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No, no mods. While I'm a big fan of Pymous's art in Dominions and I think he's made an incredibly good job of the mod, I'm used to the art the game ships with now and I think it fits with the rest of the graphics in the game.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/18/2021 7:52:54 PM

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Thanks Vic I'll do that shortly

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/20/2021 3:39:21 PM

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Thanks! I think i improved the speed a bit in open beta .03 (just uploaded)

Its a LOT of Zones you have though!

Made me think about finding a way to allow merging Zones.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/20/2021 5:43:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vic

Thanks! I think i improved the speed a bit in open beta .03 (just uploaded)

Its a LOT of Zones you have though!

Made me think about finding a way to allow merging Zones.

best wishes,
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You could allow us to turn Cities into Free Folk towns, dropping their zones.
Keeps the population around, removes them from the Zone tab.

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/20/2021 6:14:29 PM

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In the Beta thread you missed to rename the iteration to 1.09.03, it still says .02.

Highest zone count I had was 54 IIRC. Is that much? :D

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/20/2021 6:46:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Maerchen

In the Beta thread you missed to rename the iteration to 1.09.03, it still says .02.

Highest zone count I had was 54 IIRC. Is that much? :D

Anything you can not count on 2 humans hands is much :D

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/20/2021 11:08:27 PM

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You could allow us to turn Cities into Free Folk towns, dropping their zones.
Keeps the population around, removes them from the Zone tab.

This is *kind of* what the "Expel Population" stratagem (Interior Policies, but executed by the Staff Director with Operational Command) seems to be able to do ?

I'm going to have the opportunity to test it soon on an AI Village that doesn't seem to be worth keeping, even if I lose some Populace and Assets that way...

Now I already know that it kills population (populace, actually ?), but I also wonder about then losing the resulting Free Folks to migration to other regime's Zones ? Any idea how fast that can happen ?

Well, I guess that's also what the Forced Relocation and Attract Free Folk stratagems are for !

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RE: Strategem Tab causes game to crawl - 5/21/2021 12:06:34 PM

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I made a suggestion thread to continue this discussion:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5023387

And nope, expelling population will not remove the city from the map to my knowledge.

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