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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/29/2021 6:34:37 PM

vilcum

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Love to hear you are working on them! I made myself only about 70 and as you say there are some of them nowhere to be found, specially if (as is my case) you try not using post war photos (the ones with cuasi-napoleonesque uniforms and lots of medals)

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/29/2021 7:15:54 PM

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Keep up the great work gents!

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/29/2021 7:24:58 PM

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vilcum, I try to stick to WWII but I will usually err on the side of quality and I do use post war pics (after all it is still the same person). The reason I do this is that I do not like blurry and sepia colored photos. There was no concern with German post-war images because the Germans lost the war and most of their generals did not have a postwar military career.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/29/2021 8:43:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cdsys

I used the template for a luftwaffe only banner (I think there are only about 10 of them in the game).

fantastic, would you do the luftwaffe generals in such a great quality and provide your work?

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/29/2021 11:48:06 PM

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I made the Luftwaffe banner but did not upload that set because I think the one I have is not complete. If you have the complete set could you post the numbers (preferably with Ld0XXX numbers). I can finish that set and upload it here.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/30/2021 5:42:48 AM

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You can export the Ld0XXX numbers with the names in editor btw I do not have any good pics. Sorry

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/30/2021 7:15:07 AM

vilcum

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96 Kesselring
154 von Richthofen
30 Dessloch
106 Korten
120 Loehr
129 Meister
174 Sperrle
181 Student
283 Fiebig
334 Huth
27 Deichmann
81 Holle
93 Keller
121 Loerzer
137 Nielsen
141 Peltz
171 Seidemann
183 Stumpff
199 von Greim
257 Foerster
301 Schmid
335 Harlinghausen
338 Hoffmann von Waldau
19 Buelowius
46 Froehlich
47 Fuchs
90 Junck
92 Kammhuber
144 Pflugbeil
153 Reuss
241 Weise

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/30/2021 4:59:16 PM

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vilcum, thanks for that list. I added Goering to that list.

Here is the link to the Luftwaffe leader images. The link should work the same way the other links do.

Luftwaffe Leader Images
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oflekhhgc9whoj4/WITE2%20-%20Luftwaffe%20%28BMP%29.zip?dl=0

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 4/30/2021 6:32:36 PM

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Once again great work cblattmann, thx :-)

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/2/2021 2:37:26 AM

Rexzapper

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A significant number of Luftwaffe generals have not been listed.
"Air only" and "Air & Ground" Luftwaffe generals missing:
410 Klaus Uebe
398 Bruno Braeuer
353 Hans Geisler
350 Joachim Coeler
298 Gerhard Hoffmann
293 Friedrich Christiansen
290 Wilhelm Wimmer
289 Bernhard Waber
288 Maximilian von Pohl
287 Hermann Plocher
286 Wolfgang Pickert
285 Richard Heidrich
284 Alexander Andrae
282 Karl Drum
263 Job Odebrecht
261 Karl Angerstein
259 Hellmuth Felmy
255 Konrad Zander
254 Wolfgang von Wild
192 Walther von Axthelm
163 Wilhelm Schmalz
161 Alfred Schlemm
128 Eugen Meindl

< Message edited by Rexzapper -- 5/2/2021 2:38:25 AM >

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/2/2021 7:19:46 AM

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Thank u for this!

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 2:40:42 AM

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thanks

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 3:38:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Perplexity

thanks

Perplexity, you don't play WoW Classic with the "Perplexity" name by chance do you?

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 6:32:32 AM

Tanaka

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Thanks for doing this. Ld0312 appears to be missing...

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 2:04:47 PM

cblattmann

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Tanaka, thanks for your feedback. Will be checking. I will include it in my next update and much more in my next thread.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 2:12:44 PM

Hagar

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Thanks for doing this. Ld0312 appears to be missing...

Actually in Vanilla LD0312 is an empty slot at this stage...

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 2:23:34 PM

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Hagar, I checked and for some reason I missed him. I will include him in my next update in a new thread.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/13/2021 2:52:15 PM

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The reason ld0312 is missing is because his entry in the leader csv is empty. Does anyone know who he is?

Attachment (1)

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/14/2021 1:07:57 PM

Hagar

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Friedrich K�chling ... Already in Vanilla under LD0104.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/14/2021 1:34:59 PM

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Thank you Hagar. He looked familiar. I have done so many of the last weeks, I for got I already did him. SO then we can can conclude we are not missing anyone.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 5/18/2021 12:14:16 AM

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Outstanding, the historical flags mod worked like a charm! Thank you!

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 6/7/2021 10:46:20 PM

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Here is the link for the updated German Leader pack (ver. 1.01) which is a part of the WITE 2 leader pack.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5024845

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 6/9/2021 8:58:09 AM

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Why don t you and Hagar not merge each other mods into one big mod ?

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 6/9/2021 4:41:55 PM

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Flor1976, I am not sure what that would look like. We have two different visions but the same goal. We both want to see good images representing leaders and equipment. Hagar leans more on the existing game design. And his stuff looks amazing. Great mod.

I started doing this because I wanted to see better quality images as well and I wanted to have the historical flag. The current vanilla flag version does give me the vibes of WWII. Second, I would like to use black and white images because that is how most WWII imagery and videos are presented. Unlike Hagar who want to stick to the time of conflict photography, I don�t mind using post-war leader images. My thought on that is that it is the same person and I put a higher emphasis on the quality of an image I am also not a fan of the faded flag as it often overlaps leaders or equipment. I used my flags to bring in a splash of color. When you look at the vanilla leader image counters you see that the color inside them is still WITE1 colors. For me black and white images lign it up with the scenario and event images. I personally think sepia colored images look a bit dated.

These are my thoughts. Not sure what a combined mod would look like. But where we could maybe team up is on quality control to ensure we use accurate and the best images. When you have so many image it is easy to make mistakes.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 6/9/2021 10:35:51 PM

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I agree... I do use a sepia hue, but a severely toned down one.

The both of us envision the same goal, despite some differences in our approach. In terms of quality control I have no qualms speaking out, and have done so before. Likewise everyone is welcome to criticize my work, as it will only make it better. Whatever a player will choose to use, either one of our mods or a hybrid version of both of them, it will enhance the experience the game brings out of the box, IMHO. And I am pleased to be able to offer a small part in that. In the end, what works best is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I've made my mod to enhance my own gaming experience, and it felt a shame not to share it with others, to be enjoyed as much as it can be. I am sure cblattmann is doing it for the very same reasons. As such the common player is blessed to be able to cherry-pick what works best on a case-by-case basis. I can only be humbled by the work cblattmann has put in, and can only ensure from first-hand experience that the both of us have done our research, and are offering an option based on hundreds of hours of work, and by that alone, needs to be appreciated.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 6/10/2021 1:10:05 AM

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I totally agree. I started just like Hagar out to update my own game. In fact Hagar's work and the quality of his images gave my the nudge necessary to give it a try. And the process has been fun and challenging (some imagery is very hard to come by). I also learned lot.

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 6/10/2021 4:37:08 AM

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Thank you for the kind words. Indeed, some of that imagery is very, very hard to come by...

I truly dislike to use generic imagery to cover up the fact to have struck out. It is one of the reasons I include telltale signs in my images to prove it is displaying the real deal. Like the 'Beutepanzer' proudly showing their German markings, or the Soviet M3 tank having crude Russian texts written on it. Even for the less obvious ones I have gone the extra mile... Like for the aircraft recon images, where I prefer to display a 'camera' theme whenever I can. One might not be able to tell that the image is a 1:1 match with the actual aircraft it is lined up for, as it focuses on the 'recon' part, making it difficult or even next to impossible to match the airframe with the model it's used for. But I can assure you they are either a 1:1 match or at the very least not that far off (with Denniss going overboard on all the German aircraft sub-types

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RE: German Leader Pack (2 versions) - 8/23/2021 6:23:20 PM

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Wow, very good.

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