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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 9:38:17 AM

Lnestig

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Could you add the mid life upgraded SAAB Gotland-class submarine?

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/12/saab-delivers-2nd-upgraded-gotland-class-submarine-to-sweden/
https://www.udt-global.com/operational-drivers-and-imperatives/mid-life-upgrade-of-the-swedish-gotland-class-submarines-adaptations-securing-capability-today-as-well-as-transition-onto-the-a26-submarines-paper

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 9:41:18 AM

Lnestig

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Could you add the new Combat Boat 90HSM?

https://www.saab.com/newsroom/stories/2019/october/meet-the-new-combat-boat-from-saab
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/combat-boat-90-hsm/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 9:54:17 AM

Lnestig

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Could you add Spaningsb�t typ 82 (Surveillance Boat type 82)?

It is a modification of six Bevakningsb�t typ 80 (#2923 database entry) made in 2017-
It has the ability to deploy sonarbouys.
The boat kan be armed with depth charges and are capable of laying mines.

https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/information-och-fakta/materiel-och-teknik/sjo/spaningsbat-82/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 10:04:18 AM

Lnestig

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Could you add Swedish JAS 39C/D/E/F with a mixed AA loadout of RB98/RB99/Meteor?
And the ability to carry the new RB 15 Mk4
Since there are other hypothetical units inte DB, could you add the Taurus cruise missile as a Swedish JAS 39C/D/E/F loadout?

https://twitter.com/corporalfrisk/status/999882749736468480 (pictures of Swedish JAS carrying both AMRAAM and Meteor at the same time)

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 10:10:01 AM

Lnestig

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Could you add a Swedish Patriot SAM unit?

Designation RB 103
Radar, Command Centre, 3 launchers

https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/sweden-patriot-configuration-3-modernized-fire-units
https://krigsmakten.wordpress.com/2018/09/16/patriot-elde103/
https://defbrief.com/2021/05/07/sweden-receives-first-components-of-patriot-air-defense-system/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 11:37:12 AM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add Rafale F-3 for Croatia per 2024.</summary>
<detail>the deal will involve ten single-seater and two two-seater F3-sR Rafale twin-engine aircraft, second hand from the French Air Force as a replacement for the MiG-21.
The first six Rafale F3Rs will be delivered to Croatia in 2024, with the last six due the following year.

The new F3R Standard, which reached full operational capability on March 17, 2021, comprises several upgrades, that include the RBE2 AESA radar system, the METEOR long-range air-to-air missile, the TALIOS designation pod, and an update of the SPECTRA electronic warfare suite.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.airforce-technology.com/news/croatia-to-buy-12-french-rafale-fighter-jets-for-1-2bn/
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/croatia-extends-rafale-export-wins-to-five-countries/143960.article
https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/group/press/press-kits/croatia-selects-the-rafale/
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/10/2021 1:08:59 PM

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Could you add the ExLS VLS?

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/rms/documents/naval-launchers-and-munitions/VLS_3_Cell_ExLS_Launcher_Product_Card_8.5x11_042419.pdf

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/11/2021 11:50:39 AM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add AGM-84H/K SLAM ER to Saudi Arabian F-15S and F-15SA aircraft.</summary>
<detail>Boeing has secured a US Navy contract to provide 650 AGM-84 Stand-off Land Attack Missile Expanded Response (SLAM ER) missiles to Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi acquisition was listed in a $1.97 billion Foreign Military Sales contract announcement that provides for the missiles as well as upgrade work for the weapon.
The SLAM ER arms Saudi Arabia�s fleet of F-15S and F-15SA fighters, which are variants of the US Air Force�s F-15E Strike Eagle.
Cirium fleets data shows that Saudi Arabia operates 66 examples of the F-15S and 78 examples of the F-15SA.

Boeing delivered the last SLAM-ER in in 2008. In October 2019 it started construction of a new factory to produce both the SLAM ER and Harpoon, with construction to be completed in 2021.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/saudi-contract-reboots-boeing-slam-er-production/138370.article
https://www.arabianaerospace.aero/saudi-f-15-fleet-to-be-armed-with-slam-er.html
https://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/news/defense-aviation-news/2021/june-2021/7376-boeing-awarded-us-navy-contract-to-supply-36-slam-er-data-link-pods-and-containers-to-saudi-arabia.html
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/26981/US_Navy_Awards_Boeing__1_9B_to_Supply_Saudi_with_SLAM_ER_Missiles
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/13/2021 1:50:47 PM

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<type>Amend</type>
<summary>#2927 Chinese AOE doesn't carry any fuel to replenish with</summary>
<detail>
The Type 903A Fuchi only carries 42.9 tons of diesel fuel. The previous sub-variant in the class, the 903 (#654) carries 8000 tons of diesel and 2000 tons of aviation fuel.
</detail>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/13/2021 1:58:27 PM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>#2927 Chinese AOE doesn't carry any fuel to replenish with</summary>
<detail>
The Type 903A Fuchi only carries 42.9 tons of diesel fuel. The previous sub-variant in the class, the 903 (#654) carries 8000 tons of diesel and 2000 tons of aviation fuel.
</detail>

Updated the tag so it grouped in with the other updates which seems to be the common XML/JSON tag. This one is kind of big...

Mike

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/13/2021 2:03:28 PM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>#660 and #2494 Chinese AOEs don't have refuel or replenish properties</summary>
<detail>
Both variants of the Type 908 class are missing the properties needed to function in their roles. They can not offload fuel.
</detail>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/13/2021 5:07:04 PM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Can strike loadouts be added to the Aurora #3318?</summary>
<detail>
Add strike loadouts to Aurora #3318. Perhaps B-61 and B-83 nukes and larger JDAM guided weapons.?
</detail>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/13/2021 7:13:59 PM

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Could you add a new Swedish torpedo, Tp 47 (light anti-submarine torpedo)

https://www.fmv.se/projekt/torped-47/
https://www.saab.com/products/lightweight-torpedo
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/first-surface-ship-and-submarine-firings-for-saab-lightweight-torpedo/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/13/2021 7:34:35 PM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add 4 Atoll AAW Loadout to Peruvian SU-22 #1461</summary>
<detail>
Add 4 Atoll AAW Loadout to Peruvian SU-22 #1461. Similar loadout #7680.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/StefanKnippsch3/status/1403787811472515077
https://geocities.ws/aviacionperucenepa/AeronavesPeru/Su-22.html
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/14/2021 5:03:44 PM

Lnestig

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Could you add the Trackfire RWS and the Protector RWS?

https://www.saab.com/products/trackfire-remote-weapon-station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_(RWS)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/14/2021 8:05:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fox13

Hey guys I hope if you take a look at the Saudi Arabian Armed Forces (SAAF)

About the Royal Saudi Air Force, I think that some helos should be added.

The Royal Saudi Air Force is an operator of:

19x AS-532 (CSAR )
16x Bell-412
29x Bell-212
Bell 205

according to Saudi Arabian Force Structure Development

quote:

https://fas.org/man/eprint/F-35-SAR.pdf

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fox13

Hey guys I hope if you take a look at the Saudi Arabian Armed Forces (SAAF)
About the Royal Saudi Air Force, I think that loadout of the fighter should be revised.
1# F-15S is now carrying-
DB-110
AIM-9X
AIM-9M
AIM-120C7/5
Sniper XR
https://ibb.co/c3Lfkf5
https://ibb.co/rQrvTWV
https://ibb.co/hdNd5C3
2# F-15SA ( the Saudi F-15SA has activated the station 1 and 9 )
AGM-88E HARM
SLAM-ER
JSOW
GBU-54
GBU-39 SDB
AN/AAQ-13 Navigation Pod
AGM-84 Block III Harpoon
The Saudi F-15SA can carry (16x AMRAAM & AIM-9X Without EFTs on Wing or 12x AMRAAM & AIM-9X with EFTs on wings)
The F-15SA is using DEWS system but it carries according to the DB the old ALR-56C which is not correct
https://ibb.co/t4WDrfH
https://ibb.co/McRtJSm
https://ibb.co/59S7RN9
https://ibb.co/9Gc5SDJ
https://ibb.co/TRSTkYD
https://ibb.co/PQ4whzP
https://ibb.co/kMGjKXn
https://ibb.co/02pJRrB
3#F-15C
AIM-120C5/7
AIM-9X
AIM-9M
https://ibb.co/rQrvTWV
4# Typhoon
IRIS-T
AIM-120C5
Damocles Pod
EGBU-16
gbu-12
https://ibb.co/G7ksjzs
https://ibb.co/j4Ckyfr
RE-3
according to the last photos of the aircraft, it was carrying Hog nose
https://ibb.co/s21RBzL
https://ibb.co/P44xmBr
Toenado IDS ( the Saudis tornado have never carried ASRAAM but it carries AIM-9M)
https://ibb.co/NSZsjfW
Also, Saudi Arabia is using PAC-3 missile
https://ibb.co/zQR1c5z
https://ibb.co/ns9jKBV

I have mentioned many things to be updated, many of them haven't been updated till now. so I thought just to remind the guys here to take a look.

However, I believe that the Shahine SAM system / Crotale should be updated according to the information in Jane's Land-Based Air Defense 1992-1993, I will share a couple of photos for some important information especially for the Air POH And there are many things to be rectified

https://ibb.co/sgRjLSF
https://ibb.co/Zg9p3M0
https://ibb.co/r7LZWBv
https://ibb.co/3ymBZgr
https://ibb.co/vYfz3fy

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/15/2021 6:54:52 PM

Lnestig

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Could you add a hoovercraft, Griffon 2000TD?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffon_Hoverwork_2000TD
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/information-och-fakta/materiel-och-teknik/sjo/svavare-2000/

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/16/2021 2:57:44 PM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add this loadout to F-15EX</summary>
<detail>
12 x AIM-120 and 2 x AGM-158 JASSM plus the Sniper + Lantirn sensors under the fuselage. Please note that the source says 3x JASSM (but I see only two..)
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1404687968279928834/
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/16/2021 6:21:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blast33
Please note that the source says 3x JASSM (but I see only two..)

Notice it peeking behind the front landing gear... You can see the lower side bulge of the missile.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/20/2021 3:10:42 PM

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>CAMM (Sea Ceptor / Sky Sabre) data correction</summary>
<detail>This has been asked before on the forums, still I'd like to bring attention to the following weapons' issues:

- weapon #3735 Sky Sabre [Land Ceptor] and #2783 Sea Ceptor [CAMM(M)]

Currently the speed of this missile is set as:

0 - 12000 ft band | 1160kt (1.75M)
12000 - 24000 ft band | 1270kt (2.00M)
24000 - 65000 ft band | 1600kt (2.60M)

Yet MBDA (the manufacturer) claims a maximum speed of 3M. Assuming this is intended as maximum reachable speed, say in the 24k - 65k ft band, then the maximum "low altitude band" speed should be higher.

Here for example the stats for the #2767 VL-MICA EM (a missile of similar performance)

0 - 12000 ft band | 1390kt (2.10M)
12000 - 24000 ft band | 1520kt (2.40M)
24000 - 65000 ft band | 1870kt (3.09M)

Next point is "target speed" which is set at 1350kt. This allows the weapon to engage older supersonic missiles such as the SS-N-22 (Sunburn / Moskit) or the SS-N-26 (Strobile / Yakhont) albeit this pushes the CAMM to the higher limit of its interception parameters and the POK against such targets is approximately 35%.
However when it comes to faster missiles like the SS-N-27 (Sizzler / Kalibr) and its chinese derivatives / copies, the CAMM cannot engage them because they are outside its interception parameters.
Again, according to the manufacturer the CAMM has "[...] capability to intercept and thereby neutralize the full range of current and future threats including combat aircraft and the new generation of supersonic anti-ship missiles." and "[...] Sea Ceptor [*a.k.a. CAMM] provides complete protection against all known and projected air targets." this leads me to assume a higher engagement speed then currently displayed in the DB, for example akin to the previously referenced VL-MICA or the #3168 Derby [SPYDER-SR], both having a maximum engagement speed of 1950kt and both similar in design and parameters to the CAMM.

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/sea-ceptor/ ---> Official MBDA page
https://www.forces.net/news/what-can-royal-navys-new-sea-ceptor-missiles-do
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2017/september/04/170904-defence-minister-announces-successful-first-firings-of-sea-ceptor-missiles
https://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Sea-Ceptor-CAMM.htm
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/20/2021 3:28:28 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please, consider adding the SIRIUS / MPCI / Albatros NG short / medium defence system, in service date: Italy 2022/2024+</summary>
<detail>Based on the EMADS and CAMM by MBDA. Three different systems for the Italian Army, Air force and Navy to replace the aging Skyguard and Aspide air defence systems scheduled to be put out of service in 2021.

The land systems are based on a truck mounted C2 / radar center with several TEL each with 8(12?) CAMM-ER missiles.

Expected configuration

For the Army - "Forza NEC" (Network Enabled Capability) or PCMI (Posto Comando Modulo di Ingaggio): equipped with X - TAR radar and 2 TELs. Requirement for 9 systems
For the Air Force - "MAADS"(Medium Advanced Air Defence System) or SIRIUS: equipped with Kronos 3D Land radar and 3 TELs. Requirement for 3 systems

The naval system is known as Albatros NG and "[...] is centered on a modular, compact and low-weight maritime launching system, firing (weapon control) units and platform data link terminal (PDLT), all managed by the system command and control (C2) unit. The Albatros NG suite also includes a system control panel (SCP) to conduct pre-operational and safety activities on system components." with integration into the SAAM ESD system (developed for the Aster family) of the CAMM-ER to be fired from existing VLS such as Sylver / ExLS.
The PPA class of OPV for the Italian Navy is scheduled to be equipped with such system.

As for the missile: a further development of the CAMM. The maximum range is extended to "over 45km".
Its specs are similar to the CAMM with some key differences:

Length: 4200 mm
Diameter: 190 mm
Weight: 160 kg
Maximum range: 45+ km / 25nm c.a.

The missiles come packed in a canister 275mm x 275mm x 4400mm, that is the same canister for the CAMM but longer which in theory means that the CAMM-ER can also be quad-packed in a Sylver or MK.41 VLS.

Air Force variant

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.laran.it/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Dossier-CAMM-ER.Omississ.pdf --> Comprehensive report on planned Italian systems, costs and development dynamics (in italian)
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/albatros-ng-naval-air-defence-system-detailed --> Albatros NG
https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/camm-er/ --> Official MBDA page for the CAMM-ER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAMM_(missile_family) --> Wikipedia reference
https://svppbellum.blogspot.com/2019/04/camm-er-la-prossima-generazione-di.html --> CAMM / CAMM-ER w/pictures of missiles (in italian)
https://www.analisidifesa.it/2021/03/a-rivolto-il-secondo-esemplare-del-modulo-sirius-del-sistema-di-difesa-aerea-maadscamm-er/ --> News on the SIRIUS module (in italian)
http://avioblog.it/mbda-italia-ha-ricevuto-il-primo-ordine-per-il-nuovo-sistema-albatros-ng-camm-er/ --> Albatros NG related news (in italian)
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/21/2021 6:15:00 AM

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In the attached JPEG is a sumup of the AIM-7 Sparrow and AIM-9 Sidewinder A-A missiles used in Vietnam.
Apart from the misses, a very large number are failures.
This has also effect on other conflicts like Shifting Sands etc.
Is something like this programmable?

Source: Marshall L. Michel's "Clashes: Air Combat Over North Vietnam, 1965-1972.
https://twitter.com/RealAirPower1/status/1404819028288458753

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/22/2021 8:18:29 PM

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>SAMP/T correction</summary>
<detail>The following unit facilities: #230 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]), #735 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]), #3203 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]) are affected.

As of DB3K v488 these units are set to use the missile #578 Aster 30 SAAM-FR/IT however it appears that the SAMP/T actually uses the Aster 30 Blk 1 (ever since it was put into service) which has BMD capabilities to counter SRBMs (i.e. SCUD-like missiles, 600km max range).
This is backed by reference here [1], here [2] and here [3], furthermore these [4][5] articles support this claim stating that the SAMP/T proved BMD capabilities during trials in 2010, so before the adoption of the system by its current operators, therefore the SAMP/T uses the Block 1 missile as standard.

It appears that the Aster 30 variants are subdivided as follows:

Block 0 - Initial variant for ship local/area defence. No BMD capability.
Block 1 - Ground based variant for the SAMP/T. Main difference from the Blk 0 is limited BMD capability.
Block 1 NT - Improved version scheduled to be fielded in the near future (2024+) for both naval and land application (in the form of the SAMP/T NG). BMD capability against 1500km range missiles.
Block 2 - A new version with a kill-vehicle and improved BMD capabilities to counter ballistic missiles with a 3000km range. In development.

The Block 1 is present in game as weapon #681 Aster 30 Blk 1 and is currently affiliated with facilities #3213 SAM Bn (Aster 30) and #3214 SAM Bn (Aster 30). Note that these two facilities appear to be incorrectly organized: each is composed of 8 Aster 30 Blk 1 mounts with an Aster 30 Blk 1 missile per mount; also the only sensor for this facility is the trusted Mk 1 Eyeball.

I suggest:

- remove facilities #3213 SAM Bn (Aster 30) and #3214 SAM Bn (Aster 30);
- replace in the following facilities #230 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]), #735 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]), #3203 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]), the missile #578 Aster 30 SAAM-FR/IT with the #681 Aster 30 Blk 1;
- replace in the following facility #3203 SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]) the sensor Arabel with ControlMaster 200 (already present in game as facility #2477) in accordance with the following reference [6][7] which claims that Singapore decided to swap the Arabel radar for the Ground Master 200;

Also, weapon #681 Aster 30 Blk 1 currently has a maximum engagement speed of 6500kts, wouldn't it be better to reduce it to 4500kts to reflect the fact that its effective only against SRBMs?

Thank you for taking this request for consideration.</detail>
<evidence>
[1] https://www.armyrecognition.com/france_french_army_vehicle_missile_systems_uk/samp/t_mamba_aster_30_surface-to-air_defense_missile_system_technical_data_sheet_pictures_video.html
[2] https://pulaski.pl/en/french-response-to-air-and-ballistic-missile-threats/
[3] https://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Aster-SAM.htm
[4] https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/samp-t
[5] https://www.army-technology.com/projects/aster-30/
[6] https://www.defensenews.com/land/2018/03/29/singapore-confirms-delivery-of-aster-30-missile-with-video-post/
[7] https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2014-02-14/singapore-boosts-air-defense-mbda-missiles-and-thales-radars
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 6/23/2021 9:21:08 PM

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According to those pictures, the Saudi Arabian National Guard(SANG) is an operator of the VL-MICA system with GrounMaster-60. However, SAMI ( Saudi Arabian Military Industries ) has got a Joint venture agreement with Thales about manufacturing the VL-MICA system, but with Ground Master 200, ( maybe SANG is using both of them?). Also, SANG is operating the RapidFire system.

Those pictures took from SANG social media accounts.

https://ibb.co/TT09pDy
https://ibb.co/QKG4gJr
https://ibb.co/rQX4S9w
https://ibb.co/zJdQTnm

Moreover, I wish If you added the MK3 missile for the crotale SAM system,

The missile No-Escape-Zone is 15km and maximum effective range of 16km

Some useful sources:-
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/vt1 ( there is a useful pdf brochure here)
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defense-systems/crotale-next-generation-ng/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/24/2021 6:00:36 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Chinese Z-8L Super Frelon 2020 Variant-Updated Info</summary>
<detail>China create a wide body Z-8G called Z-8L variant to accomidate bigger cargo. Updated issue with more info. 1st link original request. Second Link picture comparison between G and L. Third Link notes 15 ton vs. 13ton. Capacity similar to Mi-17. 4th Link. Jane's notes 1.8-2.4 meter width difference from G. 5th link notes 10 are in service which jives with the photos </detail>
<evidence>
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4889486
https://twitter.com/louischeung_hk/status/1407479474887618561
https://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/news/defense-aviation-news/2020/august/6527-china-unveils-z-8l-first-indigenous-15-ton-class-transport-helicopter.html
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/update-images-show-wide-body-variant-of-z-8g-helicopter-undergoing-load-carrying-trials
https://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/helicopters-iii.html
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/24/2021 6:11:48 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Iraqi AN/TWQ-1 Avenger SAM IOC 2014 x8 and x13 MPQ-64 Sentinel Radars</summary>
<detail>Add Avenger SAM to Iraqi Army 2014. Copy Facility #286. Likely J variant stinger. Bought 13 MPQ-64 Sentinels Radars. Few paired with these systems. </detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/FarooqB90714421/status/1405839981826949122
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/24/2021 6:35:59 PM

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<summary>Add HGR-106 Radar to Pakistan 2014</summary>
<detail>These radar system where sold to Pakistan with Chinese AAA Guns and 825 FCR to defend Pakistani Naval Bases. HGR-106 [LLQ032] is export UHF system. First two links pictures in PN service. Third link basic stats </detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/FarooqB90714421/status/1364611796657528834
https://twitter.com/rajfortyseven/status/525117522379436032
https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/02.surv/karte059.en.html
https://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2018/05/decoding-ex-gagan-shakti-2018.html
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/25/2021 7:08:21 PM

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UPDATE:
R77, R27T & R27R Loadout to Angolan MiG-23-98. There are several photos showing these planes carrying these missiles.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/25/2021 7:31:17 PM

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MiG YE-8

Heavily modified Mig21 with Mig23 fire control system and weapons.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 6/25/2021 7:36:16 PM

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Kosava (Whirlwind) launcher of rocket assisted aerial bombs for Serbia

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Kosava (Whirlwind) truck mounted launcher of rocket assisted aerial bombs is advanced artillery system for long range target engagements of unique concept and applied design solutions, providing artillery units with great punch capability.

Main system features:

simple and reliable design,
low-cost of development and production,
high battlefield survivability (due to high mobility and rapid into and out of action transition time),
capability for sudden, concentrated, accurate and powerful engagement of wide range of battlefield targets,
high firepower (owing to multiple launch capability, high warhead effectiveness, relatively high rate of fire, and possibility of using broad range of modified standard and guided aerial bombs)
warhead weight/ range ratio is optimized to suit typical categories of battlefield targets and combat scenarios.
Kosava can engage following target types:
concentrations of enemy manpower and combat materiel
AD and artillery systems positions
Highly reinforced zones of resistance, particularly in anti-terrorist and anti-guerilla operations
C3 (command, control and communication) nodes
Logistic and storage facilities
Vital military, industrial and infrastructure facilities

Kosava munition has been created by mating the bombs with solid propellant rocket motors, in order to reach the efficient range of up to 12-50 km, dependent on bomb and motor type. With reduced warhead weight, even longer ranges can be achieved.

After active phase of flight is completed, bomb is released from rocket motor assembly by pyrotechnical/mechanical device, and continues flight by ballistic trajectory up to the impact point.

WARHEAD RANGE
Kosava uses general purpose (GP) aerial bombs or pure blast aerial bombs based on FAE (fuel air explosive) technology. Warhead weight envelope covers 100 kg, 250 kg and 500 kg bombs.
Kosava can be also adapted to fire rocket assisted laser guided bombs of 100 kg and 250 kg class, using aerial bombs with HE or penetration warhead as bomb chassis.

GUIDANCE
1st phase: The program guidance
2nd phase: The modified pursuit guidance. This modification pursuit guidance used both the angle between LOS and velocity and the angle attack.

Advantages of modified pursuit guidance are:
Better stability of system
Higher accuracy on the illuminated target.

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