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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/15/2021 10:26:19 PM   
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Scotland 0-2 Czech Rep

Well there's a shocker..... I had hopes for Scotland this time around. Just need to beat England now.


Did say Scotland aren't upto much.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 9:49:29 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 12:15:07 PM   
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The aptly named group of death. And here's why.

Germany 0-1 France

Sounds close but the French never really got out of first gear. Its easy to see why the French are favourites.

History shows the Germans can NEVER be written off BUT...

...they now have Portugal next and they really can't afford to lose that one or they may be out. They would then need a big win against Hungary and hope that 3 points is enough....
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By the same token of course, Portugal are in the same boat. IF they lose to Germany they will find themselves possibly having to beat - and certainly not lose to - France.... group of death.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 12:16:24 PM   
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Scotland 0-2 Czech Rep

Well there's a shocker..... I had hopes for Scotland this time around. Just need to beat England now.


Did say Scotland aren't upto much.

warspite1

But the point I was making was that they don't have to be. In a derby, form goes out of the window and as have been proved a bzillion times, anything can happen in a one off derby game.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 12:16:47 PM   
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Big game for Wales today. Come on boys. You can do it.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 4:06:16 PM   
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So Scotland will:

a) dominate the match and find a way to lose 1-0 right at the end
b) get played off the pitch and win 1-0 with a ridiculously early or late goal
c) get hammered so badly our next international competition will be a tense struggle with the Faroes over who gets to lose to Iceland in the Semi-finals
d) or something else will happen

think that covers all the options


Russia - Belgium had two commentators a male and a female. The male was painstakingly explaining why Belgium wasn't scoring when the female interjected "I think that Belgium is about to score". And, boooom, instant goal by Belgium! Covering everything helps...


Well, I guess that she should know if someone is about to score while he is making excuses as to why not.


I found out that her name is Katia Serra, ex-women National soccer team. I posted a picture of her in the Australian Beauties team. Right now she is leaving the male pundits in the dust.


Good for her. Sometimes those commentators love to hear their own voice so they just keep talking. She is also very easy on the eyes . . .


Better than Paola Ferrari, who, live on national TV at 8:30 PM, pulled a Basic Instinct stunt out of the blue

(Warning, link NSFW: https://twitter.com/i/status/1405120162416807939)

Her "pronunciation" (for the lack of a better word) of the Polish team's names is already a meme-storm. Wojciech Szczęsny was a killer

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 4:56:22 PM   
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This is more like it. Let's not kid ourselves. Wales realistically have to win this and they are giving it a go.

Gareth Bale - what quality - and if Aaron Ramsey was up to it he should have had a Gareth Bale assisted hat-trick.

Massive 45 minutes for the Welsh coming up....

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 6:01:09 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 6:21:31 PM   
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Wales managed that really well, never really just hanging in, so should qualify?
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Yes should do with 4 points. I've not studied what needs to happen for Wales not to qualify but, they are guaranteed 3rd place and with 4 points and +2 GD (subject to what happens against Italy) they should be okay.

Well done Wales - brilliant from Gareth Bale (ahem... penalty aside) but also the whole team.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 6:25:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now a chance to get a better gauge on how good Italy are after the hype from the first game. Not a must win (or even draw) game for the Swiss with Turkey still to come, but they will not want to rely on having to beat the Turks, as the latter will possibly still have something to play for if the Swiss lose or draw tonight.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 6:38:19 PM   
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Wales managed that really well, never really just hanging in, so should qualify?
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Yes should do with 4 points. I've not studied what needs to happen for Wales not to qualify but, they are guaranteed 3rd place and with 4 points and +2 GD (subject to what happens against Italy) they should be okay.

Well done Wales - brilliant from Gareth Bale (ahem... penalty aside) but also the whole team.


The boys did well. Italy v Switzerland is going to be interesting.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 7:31:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Italian commentator explained to us Berardi's strength (after his decisive cross to Locatelli). He has two solutions: either to pass with the right foot or to pass with the left foot. That's a player! Not like the others who can pass in ten different ways!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 8:23:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Burak miss only one chance that Turkey has and Turkish govt TV commentator explained Ronaldo also missed from the same spot. But they left Burak fighting alone against Welsh players in last minute fight in pitch. They are like foreign mercenaries -playing abroad- not united as a national team. But tactically Welsh were better. Qualifiers will be clear if Italy want to win all 3 games.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 9:19:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I wasn't able to watch the match, only snippets (the GIGASCREEN is muted but I could catch snippets of the commentary too from the GIGATV we have in the kitchen). I liked how Italy was able to actually stop attacking if there wasn't an opening, and keep the ball and restarting instead of trying a random shot. I'm quite surprised to see that the ball possession was a perfect 50%-50% - I don't remember the Swiss doing anything remotely dangerous. And the Swiss goalkeeper was partially responsible on the third goal.

In a strange Jungian approach, the post-match commentary is more about how the Swiss were a strong team than about Italy's merits. That's Italian National TV for you

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/16/2021 10:39:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very surprising for National TV. Swiss team full of Bundesliga players, squad of a German national 2nd team with full of foreigner players for a national team. I've watched until Chiellini's substitude. He was very confident even after substituted. I didn't have doubts for Italian victory.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 12:00:31 PM   
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The Italian commentator explained to us Berardi's strength (after his decisive cross to Locatelli). He has two solutions: either to pass with the right foot or to pass with the left foot. That's a player! Not like the others who can pass in ten different ways!

That commentator seems so brilliant that the mute option seems like a good idea.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 12:01:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tough offside call for the Finnish team against Russia. Anyone know how much he was offside with?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 12:06:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems Italy has a good quality team this time around. Two solid wins so far. First goal was sheer brilliance.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 2:48:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Congrats to Italy!

In my opinion, she´s playing the best soccer in this Eurocup. But the surprise team is Wales, of course.

Turkey has been the great disappointment for me in this championship, I thought the turks had a good team this time, but they aren´t a team, they look like a band.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 8:57:41 PM   
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So the Dutch join the Italians in the round of the last 16 and the North Macedonians are the first country definitely out.

Dutch look promising but Austria..... are sooooooooooooo dull. Both Austria and Ukraine could qualify with 4 points if they draw in the last game, but a win for either would definitely see the winner though.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 9:57:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Danes played a magnificient match against the Belgians, but lost 2-1. The Danes had most of the chances, but the Belgians made theirs count. There is a reason that Belgium is ranked number 1 in the world at the moment.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/17/2021 10:58:04 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 1:25:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		England best come second than first in their table if they get throughj. If they come first they play the runner up from Group F!!..far worse that than if they come second in table!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 6:50:11 AM   
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Danes played a magnificient match against the Belgians, but lost 2-1. The Danes had most of the chances, but the Belgians made theirs count. There is a reason that Belgium is ranked number 1 in the world at the moment.
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The Danes were superb in the first half and had a number of chances to be 2 or 3 up. As expected the Belgian began to get back in the game.... and then they brought on De Bruyne and Hazard. Sadly a couple of Danish chances at the end couldn't see them convert - but they gave it a good go. Danes now need to thrash Russia and hope for results to go their way. Based on their first half showing against Belgium, the Danes can beat Russia.

I think the pundit analysis was right. The Belgians, fully fit are one of the favourites, but their defence is looking old. Based on very early days (only one game for some) I'd say the favourites are:

1. France
2. Belgium
3. Portugal
4. Italy
5. Netherlands


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 10:46:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		WOW Warspite you have it in for England. I'd rate their chances just as high as Holland, Portugal or Belgium. There is no reason with the team they have not to be rated so. The win against Crotia was a good sign. Now if we get to the Quarters who knows.

I so hope France doesn't win...boring..I'd even want Italy to win over them. I can't see Holland, Portugal or Belgium winning it to be honest. Don't discount Germany either.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 11:57:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wodin No I don't have it in for England. I am English, I love my country I love football - I would love nothing more than England winning a football tournament. I've waited since 1972 - almost 50 years (my first international game I remember was the Euro qualifier defeat against Germany at Wembley that year).

BTW you also thought I was wrong about Spurs earlier in the season but.....

But unlike Spurs - who were rubbish because we have a rubbish squad - I repeat what I said earlier. England - unlike in many, many previous tournaments - DO have some decent players and they should be in for a decent tournament. BUT

The biggest problem with England down the years has been that our tactics have been rubbish - even with decent players.

If this team plays to its strengths then it can go far in the tournament. But, then we should have beaten Croatia in the last World Cup. What happened? We were the better team, we were 1-0 up, Croatia had an ageing team and towards the end of the first half one or two players were losing it and getting rattled.

So what happened? Did we keep our foot on the gas? Did we apply pressure to the Croatians who were losing it? Did we attempt to run them ragged to take advantage of their ageing squad? Did we pull their defenders out of position through clever balls over the top and runs into the channels?

Er, no... none of the above. Just as we did countless times under Erikson and others, we sat off, we went into our shell, we allowed Croatia to dominate the ball. As Croatian confidence grew, ours visibly melted away. It was pathetic and so predictable.

Foden, Mount, Grealish, Kane.... these players should strike fear into any team - and if Sterling is on form you can add his name to that list.

This time around its not the lack of players - its the tactics and the mental side that will determine whether we have a decent tournament or do the usual.

Yes, I agree about Germany. One should never write off the Germans. However, they were very poor against France and I've watched Hummels a lot this season and no way should he be playing. Emre Can (substitute against France) also had a dreadful year for Dortmund. Based on the game against France, and with Portugal to come, I would seriously have concerns the Germans will even get out of the group.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 12:01:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Warspite, deep down I agree with you, but surely one day it will come good. '96 was the last time I remember us playing superb and we should have won that tourney and the '90 world cup. SInce then...yeah right..

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 12:12:29 PM   
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On any given day, any team can win, but will they? It takes more than the individual efforts, it takes a team and that includes the coaching and scouting staffs.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 1:23:40 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/18/2021 3:03:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look at the Stats for the FRance vs Germany game and it looks like France was lucky to win it. Again I wouldn't write Germany off. I think Germany will beat Portugal and obviously Hungary.

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