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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Ok, now that the formalities are out of the way & I have not started yet I need an Adolf Hitler moment. You being Adolf Hitler. Where does Adolf Hitler want his Generals to concentrate on as the primary & secondary objective for 1941 by Dec? Based on the responses I will set a primary & secondary objective based on the replies. Please keep it reasonably obtainable in 41. Gorky is not a reasonable answer.

Thank you in advance

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Ok, now that the formalities are out of the way & I have not started yet I need an Adolf Hitler moment. You being Adolf Hitler. Where does Adolf Hitler want his Generals to concentrate on as the primary & secondary objective for 1941 by Dec? Based on the responses I will set a primary & secondary objective based on the replies. Please keep it reasonably obtainable in 41. Gorky is not a reasonable answer.

Thank you in advance

I guess I will have to start sending $10.00 for posts on Primary and secondary objectives.

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ORIGINAL: jubjub

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Ok, now that the formalities are out of the way & I have not started yet I need an Adolf Hitler moment. You being Adolf Hitler. Where does Adolf Hitler want his Generals to concentrate on as the primary & secondary objective for 1941 by Dec? Based on the responses I will set a primary & secondary objective based on the replies. Please keep it reasonably obtainable in 41. Gorky is not a reasonable answer.

Thank you in advance

I guess I will have to start sending $10.00 for posts on Primary and secondary objectives.

Halder subverted hitlers orders to concentrate on the south and instead deployed the army to make Moscow the primary objective. So I’d say Maikop for the oil, but you’re kind of stuck with Halder’s plan to some extent.

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ORIGINAL: AlbertN

Leningrad as primary objective.

Moscow and Rostov the secondary objectivse and a more reasonable yet beyond history reaches '41 line! Instead of the A-A line the L-M-R line!

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Ok, now that the formalities are out of the way & I have not started yet I need an Adolf Hitler moment. You being Adolf Hitler. Where does Adolf Hitler want his Generals to concentrate on as the primary & secondary objective for 1941 by Dec? Based on the responses I will set a primary & secondary objective based on the replies. Please keep it reasonably obtainable in 41. Gorky is not a reasonable answer.

Thank you in advance

I guess I will have to start sending $10.00 for posts on Primary and secondary objectives.

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: AlbertN

Leningrad as primary objective.

Moscow and Rostov the secondary objectivse and a more reasonable yet beyond history reaches '41 line! Instead of the A-A line the L-M-R line!

Thank you for your objective.

Curious why Leningrad over lets say, "Moscow"?

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ORIGINAL: Rosencrantus

I want to see a Southern focus this game (Orel, Kursk, Stalino, maybe Rostov) please. The open terrain should allow you inflict heavier losses on the Soviets and give the panzers maximum operational capability. If all goes well, it also opens up a 42 strike to the Caucasus and Stalingrad. Would suggest Leningrad as 2nd objective. Moscow is too difficult to capture without secure flanks and with the terrain and constant reinforcements the Soviet is usually able to stall out to winter.

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Ok, now that the formalities are out of the way & I have not started yet I need an Adolf Hitler moment. You being Adolf Hitler. Where does Adolf Hitler want his Generals to concentrate on as the primary & secondary objective for 1941 by Dec? Based on the responses I will set a primary & secondary objective based on the replies. Please keep it reasonably obtainable in 41. Gorky is not a reasonable answer.

Thank you in advance

I guess I will have to start sending $10.00 for posts on Primary and secondary objectives.

As Herr Hitler stated, Moscow was of no importance. (He did change his mind later, but too late) Hoth was diverted toward Leningrad, but Hitler didn't want to take the city, but rather starve it out, walk in, and raze it. Guderian went south to help destroy Southwest Front, and
Adolf was more interested in the economic bounty of Ukraine. He even insisted on smaller pockets. So, Leningrad under siege, (or take it)and taking Ukraine.

Gorky, well, Halder did suggest it at the Orsha conference. To which Guderian's chief of staff exclaimed "This is not the month of May and we are not in France." Some sanity there.

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ORIGINAL: Jango32

Let's go with the actual German multi-phase plan at least in Army Group Center; pocket and eliminate the Red Army all the way to Moscow and take the city.


Phase I, capture Minsk and Belarus to destroy the forces inside the Western Military District.

Phase II, let us destroy the pre-war Soviet reserves by capturing the area around Smolensk, where they will likely concentrate en mass in or around the Land Bridge.

Phase III, we must head towards the Moscow-Kalinin-Tula triangle and eliminate the remaining main body of the Red Army there; should Moscow be threatened, Guctony will surely make a stand there to defend it with most of what he's got. In addition to all the logistical, economical (production) and administrative/political damage (66 VPs), it will present us with the opportunity (hopefully) to pocket and eliminate the main body of the Soviets.

With that in mind, diverting 4th PzGr and/or 1st PzGr, or only specific corps attached to them, to aid AGC should be an option to take when it presents itself. Maybe 1st PzGr should swing from the south from Dnepropetrovsk to Kharkov-Kursk-Bryansk.

No major diversions from this strategic goal should happen; i.e. let's not divert parts of 3rd PzGr to 4th PzGr to assist in taking Leningrad, and by the time they're in a position to do something about it we divert them back to 3rd PzGr in the center for seizing Moscow.

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ORIGINAL: AlbertN

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: AlbertN

Leningrad as primary objective.

Moscow and Rostov the secondary objectivse and a more reasonable yet beyond history reaches '41 line! Instead of the A-A line the L-M-R line!

Thank you for your objective.

Curious why Leningrad over lets say, "Moscow"?

Narrative wise?

Close the Baltic entirely, link up with Finnish forces, maybe impress Sweden further as it will be entirely surrounded by German lands.

Plus it will be different from the game vs JJ.

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ORIGINAL: Beethoven1

Feldmarshall HLYA,

Pay no heed to these incompetent old guard generals. They do not understand the economic basis of modern war, and consequently attempt to misguide your strategy and lead Germany into ruin. Remember, these aristocratic Prussian generals are the same people who lost the First World War.

The Fuehrer's critics mistakenly caricature his economic focus as a focus on resources, oil, the grains of Ukraine, and armaments. But no, this misunderstands and fails to appreicate the Fuehrer's world-historical genius. What is economics? Economics is nothing but logistics. Economics is the process whereby people acquire goods and consume them. And that is the very essence of logistics - the acquisition of military goods by the army and their consumption. Logistics are directly dependent on railyards, pushing freight.

Among German Field Marshalls, only you fully grasp the genius of the Fuehrer's economic understanding. Consequently, the Fuehrer has relieved Halder of command and put you in charge of the entirety of Operation Barbarossa, and the broader long term War in the East (2).

The Fuehrer has developed a top secret RAILYARD MAP of the Soviet Union, which he now presents to you for your consideration. The green numbers on the map denote railyard size:



The Fuehrer will soon also send a private message to Field Marshall HLYA with some additional strategic details, which HLYA may disclose at the time and place of his choosing, so as not to give away too much advantage to any NKVD spies that may be lurking. Furthermore, HLYA has been granted blanket authority to disclose certain disinformation to mislead the Bolshevists.

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ORIGINAL: tm1

The Marcks Plan Dec 1940





There should be a Southern drive it would be a diversionary attack during 1941

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

You are setting Moscow as the objective?

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ORIGINAL: tm1

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

You are setting Moscow as the objective?

Yes Moscow must be taken first

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* No Early End scenario. (This way Soviets get to play & have fun in 43 & 44)

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ORIGINAL: vvs007

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* No Early End scenario. (This way Soviets get to play & have fun in 43 & 44)

-finally!

-what about the historical surroundings on the first move (without the southern one)?, Jukovs mechcorps did not died for free in counterattacks

-no goals (good luck comrade Guctony! ) , but if you can use beautiful mod GeneralsMap pls

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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

I would settle just to see if you can match the historical results - cut off Leningrad, outskirts of Moscow, and Rostov.

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ORIGINAL: K62

Crazy idea but maybe Pskov - Smolensk - Voronezh - Novorossiysk is possible in '41 if you put all FBDs and naval aviation in the south.

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All my games are "No Early End" scenarios after the release of this scenario. It is only fair.