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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 7/26/2021 8:06:40 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 7/26/2021 8:27:12 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 7/26/2021 8:31:39 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 7/26/2021 9:06:58 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 7/26/2021 9:10:13 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 8/25/2021 3:44:09 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 8/25/2021 3:46:56 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 6:34:20 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 6:36:18 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 6:37:43 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 7:15:25 PM   
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Saving MacArthur - a book series on how The Philippines were saved - in 1942! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D34QCWQ/?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref=series_rw_dp_labf

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 7:21:48 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 7:38:50 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/7/2021 7:40:15 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/8/2021 7:34:32 PM   
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River Wide, Ocean Deep - a book on Operation Sea Lion - www.fredleander.com
Saving MacArthur - a book series on how The Philippines were saved - in 1942! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D34QCWQ/?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref=series_rw_dp_labf

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 9/8/2021 7:36:27 PM   
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River Wide, Ocean Deep - a book on Operation Sea Lion - www.fredleander.com
Saving MacArthur - a book series on how The Philippines were saved - in 1942! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D34QCWQ/?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref=series_rw_dp_labf

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/5/2021 9:07:53 PM   
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Saving MacArthur - a book series on how The Philippines were saved - in 1942! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D34QCWQ/?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref=series_rw_dp_labf

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/5/2021 9:09:58 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/5/2021 9:16:01 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/7/2021 8:13:59 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/7/2021 8:15:29 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/25/2021 11:49:06 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/25/2021 11:50:54 AM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/25/2021 4:55:13 PM   
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Re: the Independence class carriers - they were CVLs, never CVEs, and they were built on hulls started as Baltimore class CAs. For that reason, they had turbine engines from the outset, never diesels. So why only 10,000 tons when a Baltimore CA displaces over 12,000 tons? A CVL carries much of its weight much higher above the waterline than a CA with its tapering superstructure shape. A full deck of aircraft would further threaten stability so the ship had to hold weight to 10,000 tons.

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/25/2021 9:19:11 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/25/2021 9:20:56 PM   
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Saving MacArthur - a book series on how The Philippines were saved - in 1942! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D34QCWQ/?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref=series_rw_dp_labf

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/25/2021 9:22:41 PM   
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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/26/2021 12:10:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Re: the Independence class carriers - they were CVLs, never CVEs, and they were built on hulls started as Baltimore class CAs. For that reason, they had turbine engines from the outset, never diesels. So why only 10,000 tons when a Baltimore CA displaces over 12,000 tons? A CVL carries much of its weight much higher above the waterline than a CA with its tapering superstructure shape. A full deck of aircraft would further threaten stability so the ship had to hold weight to 10,000 tons.

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Independence class carriers


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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/26/2021 12:57:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark VII

Pretty sure they were built on Cleveland class hulls.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Re: the Independence class carriers - they were CVLs, never CVEs, and they were built on hulls started as Baltimore class CAs. For that reason, they had turbine engines from the outset, never diesels. So why only 10,000 tons when a Baltimore CA displaces over 12,000 tons? A CVL carries much of its weight much higher above the waterline than a CA with its tapering superstructure shape. A full deck of aircraft would further threaten stability so the ship had to hold weight to 10,000 tons.

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Independence class carriers


You are correct on Cleveland and my remark that they were "a new class of Carriers" should be understood as not CVEs, but an improved version of the CVE concept - namely a somewhat longer flight deck which could facilitate the Hellcat, and better machinery to increase the speed.

Apart from that our reporters have absolutely no clue on naval matters - or writing English.

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RE: Rookie II - Saving MacArthur - 10/28/2021 1:45:18 PM   
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