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CWDB fuel issue - 11/21/2021 4:10:33 PM

Stanley_The_Rolmate

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The way the forum recognises things that aren't allowed to be posted by accounts that haven't posted more than ten times is incredibly broken. I have attempted to post about a DB issue multiple times, each time removing more and more info from the post and I'm still not allowed to post it and removing even more would just make it incredibly vague. There have been multiple times in the past that I have tried to post about a issue and just given up because of this.
Is there any way to get around this besides just posting 10 bs messages in some dark corner of the forum?

--Edit. This was the message I tried to post (already removed some details in an attempt to get it trough the restrictions) apparently I can't post anything in the CWDB threat, but I can post here.
All US CA's and CAG's seem to have way too high fuel consumption values. This means they have about 13-19 hours endurance at cruise speed.

Below are the units and their fuel consumption. They all have 40 tons of oil fuel.

Creep: 44,55kg per minute
Cruise: 49,5kg per minute
Full: 94,04kg per minute
Flank 185,62kg per minute
All versions of CA Rochester
All versions of CA Macon
All versions of CA Toledo
All versions of CA Des Moines
All versions of CA Los Angeles
All Versions of CA Newport News
CA Boston
CA Saint Paul
All versions of CA Helena

Creep: 30,72kg per minute
Cruise: 34,13kg per minute
Full: 64,86kg per minute
Flank: 128,01kg per minute
All versions of CA and CAG Canbrerra
All versions of CAG and CAG Boston

In comparison CG Albany which is a conversion of a ship that's part of the same class as the CA Rochester, Has the following fuel consumption values(also carries 40 tons of oil fuel):
Creep: 0,9kg per minute
Cruise: 1kg per minute
Full: 1,89kg per minute
Flank: 3,75kg per minute

< Message edited by Stanley_The_Rolmate -- 11/23/2021 12:55:11 PM >

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/21/2021 4:36:12 PM

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PM me with what you want to submit, and in which sub-forum, and I'll post it for you.

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/21/2021 4:49:18 PM

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Thank you, I have sent a you a PM

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/23/2021 12:07:44 PM

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I think it's a problem with the new DB, in the previous DB version the above mentioned cruisers either had 1980 tons of oil fuel or the same amount as now but with much lower consumption values.

After looking furhter it isn't just the American cruisers mentioned above that suffer from this problem, but also the Soviet oilers VT Olekma and VT Kazbek. They used to have fuel consumption values similar to the Albany's mentioned above, but after the last DB update the values are rougly 50 times higher, but the fuel quantity has stayed the same, this means they have about 10 hours worth of fuel.

(sorry for replying here, but apparently I literally can't post anything in the CWDB threat, but I can here)

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/23/2021 12:42:25 PM

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The following ships also suffer from the same problem as mentioned earlier:

#2587 - PNS Dacca
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 57 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 325,61kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed:2 hrs 45 min

#1180 - B17 Punta Delgarda
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 57 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 306,77kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 3hrs 5min

#667 - AO 22 Cimarron
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 57 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 325,61kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 2hrs 54min

#571 AO 143 Neosho
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 57 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 325,61kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 2hrs 54min

#570 AO 129 Maumee
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 57 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 325,61kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 2hrs 54min

#2299 A 904 Bunju
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 40 tons diesel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 50,73kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 13hrs 7min

#2300 A 903 Sambu
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 40 tons diesel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 50,73kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 13hrs 7min

#543 A 629 Lac Chambon
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 37,5 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 306,77kg per minute
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 2hrs 1min

#620 - CB 1 Alaska
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 48 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 41,25kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 19 hrs 22 min

#1341 - CB 1 Alaska
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 48 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 41,25kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 19 hrs 22 min

#2230 - CBG 1 Alaska
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 48 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 41,25kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 19 hrs 22 min

#621 - CBG 1 Alaska
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 48 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 41,25kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 19 hrs 22 min

#2232 - CBG 1 Alaska
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 48 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 41,25kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 19 hrs 22 min

#1120 - C gotland
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 26,3 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 75,42kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 5 hrs 46 min

#1121 - C gotland
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 26,3 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 75,42kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 5 hrs 46 min

#1786 - CL 04 Latorre
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 26,3 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 75,42kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 5 hrs 46 min

#1785 C Tre Kroner
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 26,3 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 75,42kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 5 hrs 46 min

#1119 C Tre Kronor
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 26,3 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 75,42kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 5 hrs 46 min

#2422 - CL 106 Fargo
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 46 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 43,04kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 17 hrs 47 min

#2423 - CL 107 Huntington
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 46 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 43,04kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 17 hrs 47 min

#351 CL 144 Worcester
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 32 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 34,13 kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 15 hrs 36 min

#1344 CL 145 Roanoke
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 32 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 34,13 kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 15 hrs 36 min

#574 CLC 1 Northampton
DB 491 Fuel quantity: 40 tons oil fuel
DB 491 consumption at cruise speed: 34,13kg
DB 491 endurance at cruise speed: 19hrs 30 min

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/23/2021 12:56:51 PM

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https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3436158

Post the requests for amendments corrections and new entries in the above thread. This will just either get overlooked or confuse other people making requests or asking for corrections.
Ta.
K

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/23/2021 1:14:52 PM

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I tried posting it in there, but apparently I can't post anything in specifically that thread because I haven't made 10 posts yet.

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/23/2021 2:15:55 PM

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I'll look into this. The 491 update saw literally tens of thousands of validation errors cleared from CWDB, and it seems likely that some of the adjusted fuel/propulsion values weren't correct; I'll see what can be done to fix this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!

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RE: Forum content recognition - 11/23/2021 4:11:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pygmalion

I'll look into this. The 491 update saw literally tens of thousands of validation errors cleared from CWDB, and it seems likely that some of the adjusted fuel/propulsion values weren't correct; I'll see what can be done to fix this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!

I don't know the current ins and outs of the current DB workflow but was heavily involved in a lot of this stuff back in the day.

If you need testing of specific DB things please do post when there is a public release. More than happy to give the time I can to it.

Mike

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RE: Forum content recognition - 12/21/2021 8:51:05 AM

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LOL 5 years and this is still a problem?! poo-eee!

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