Ian R
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ORIGINAL: Chris21wen
1 Weather is irrelevant, I did not just run this for one day [snip]
Oh dear, you seem upset that I have questioned your claim that you have found a bug, one that has apparently eluded detection for 13 years. I tried to point you in the right direction, but that was unsuccessful.
So, let's do this in very clinical, emotionless fashion, starting with the above statement, and working downwards over the next few days.
First, weather affects every air mission. They are all subject to weather effects on mission launch rolls, direct, and indirectly affected by weather.
7.2.1.4 paraphrased - weather effects add to the chance of mission aborts due to leadership/morale fails
7.2.1.12 WEATHER AND ABORTED MISSIONS
Offensive Missions can be aborted after all preparations have been made, but prior to take-off,
due to bad weather over the air unit’s base or over the intended target. Hexes affected by bad
weather blocks any air units from launching an airstrike from the hex, and it blocks any target
in the hex from being attacked.
A line of bad weather will not stop an airstrike flying through the hex from a good weather hex
to a good weather hex. A no-fly symbol (a cloud) will appear on the tactical map if the Show
Clouds preference option is selected.
Note that a search mission is an airstrike, or to use the language in 7.4, an "attack mission" - and they carry an extended range bombload and can attack ships they find them {7.1} on page 151. See also the table on page 157. Search is a patrol mission launched in phase 2, but it is still capable of making a strike; it is an offensive mission.
Finally, as to your assertion that running it for a few days somehow makes weather irrelevant - that is incorrect. Every hex is subject to a die roll, and every base a die roll each phase, and might get the cloud cover or worse, that stops any air activity. See 12.1, page 224:
"Each of these weather quadrants will generate a different weather forecast for all hexes
in their quadrant.Offensive Missions can be aborted after all preparations have been made,
but prior to take-off, due to bad weather over the air unit’s base or over the intended target. A
message will display if this occurs.The aircraft will not fly another Mission during that Air Strike
phase. The weather at each base or target is determined each air phase, and is not linked to
prior weather at that location."
Messages pop up hundreds, if not thousands of times, in any game that float plane ops from cruisers "at sea" (which includes sitting in a TF, undocked) have been canceled due to weather.
Incidentally, even if you have the weather option switched off, you get partly cloudy everywhere, and whilst that is not so bad for ground bases, it still plays havoc with floatplane ops.
So unless you are somehow controlling the weather die-rolls each time you re-run the turns, yes weather is relevant.
Edit: And in other news, as I type, Rafa has broken the Russian Robot in set 4 and is strengthening shot by shot on the way to taking the #1 ranking away from the deportee.
< Message edited by Ian R -- 1/30/2022 11:54:01 AM >
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