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winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 2:21:48 PM   
boldairade

 

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winter halves all combat values of units? or just attack values?

fins/russians only experience half this reduction-is this correct?

troops with the winterization perk have attack values doubled?

do winterized troops recover effectiveness faster(since that's a problem in winter)??
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RE: winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 3:35:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Page 50 of the in game manual.
Snow -35%
Blizzard -50%
Non-Soviet/Fin their effectiveness drops like a rock.
Winterized specialty +100% combat bonus

IT'S THE LAW!!

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 3:55:36 PM   
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For winterezed countries, they are not supposed to be affected by winter penalities. So no Soviet of Fin or Swedish unit should get the extra readiness drop.

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 4:53:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlvaroSousa

Page 50 of the in game manual.
Snow -35%
Blizzard -50%
Non-Soviet/Fin their effectiveness drops like a rock.
Winterized specialty +100% combat bonus

IT'S THE LAW!!


Just to confirm...say a unit is attack strength of 10...

Does that mean if the unit is winterized:

Snow: 13 Str
Blizzard: 10 Str

?

Based on what you are saying seems that way.

I think winterization should take effect in cold too but that is me.

Then again I think cold should have minuses to non-winterized countries.

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 5:36:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Winterized means they don't lose extra effectiveness due to crappy weather conditions.
Winder specialization doubles their combat value

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 5:36:40 PM   
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RE: winter/winterization - 1/29/2022 8:06:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		im sorry-what is the attack penalty?

i see the combat reduction-is that what you mean?

also, i use the manual on this site. is that outdated? people keep referring to page numbers on questions, but when i go to that page it isn't generally correct.


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RE: winter/winterization - 1/30/2022 11:01:46 AM   
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In snow 35% that is an attack penalty...
Blizzard is 50%...

BUT if the unit has the winterization they get 100% attack bonus so...in Snow they attack better...in blizzard it is clear to them.

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/30/2022 2:20:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stjeand

Combat reductions...

In snow 35% that is an attack penalty...
Blizzard is 50%...

BUT if the unit has the winterization they get 100% attack bonus so...in Snow they attack better...in blizzard it is clear to them.



ok

so a winterized soviet unit that was 10 strength would have an attack value of what in snow? 13? And what in a blizzard. If you double it(20) but they half it (50%) that would put you back at 10??

Is that right?

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/30/2022 2:29:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is my understanding...which is what I was asking Al.

Blizzard is a break even.
Snow appears to be a bonus.

Personally I will say it again...COLD should be just like snow.

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/30/2022 5:12:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The flip side is that while you gain nothing in a blizzard they lose 50% of their combat value right?

So if you were attacking a 16 strength in it it would be 8(before modifiers)?

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/30/2022 5:20:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: boldairade

The flip side is that while you gain nothing in a blizzard they lose 50% of their combat value right?

So if you were attacking a 16 strength in it it would be 8(before modifiers)?


The combat bonus for specialization should apply in Snow and Blizzard, so it should "go back" to 16 for Winterized specialized units.

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RE: winter/winterization - 1/30/2022 7:39:35 PM   
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